Talk:Murder of Ronan Kerr

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Was surprised that this article didn't exist so I have created a stub. This could be moved to a title referring to the murder rather than an article under Ronan Kerr's name if that is felt to be appropriate. LukeSurlt c 00:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This article was just nominated, and quickly de-nominated, for speedy deletion on 2011-07-04. I will say that the murder of PC Ronan Kerr, and the reaction to it, was a very large news story in the UK for several days after the event. This can be seen by running a search for the "Ronan Kerr" the BBC news website. LukeSurlt c 13:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Completely unacceptable to use the term murder. It is fair for you to consider it murder but the article should be retitled "Killing of Ronan Kerr" and use non-partisan terminology. Articles on all attacks by politically motivated groups avoid using the term "murder".--93.107.109.87 (talk) 10:58, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Must agree, article should be renamed "Killing of Ronan Kerr" to keep it non-partisan.--CommieMark (talk) 00:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Group claiming attack
According to this source those that claimed the attack "insisted they were entirely separate from the Real IRA, Oglaigh na hEireann (ONH), and the Continuity IRA - and were intent on remaining so". Thus, although they may claim to be the "Real" IRA in a literal sense, I don't believe saying that Kerr was killed by the Real IRA is accurate. LukeSurlt c 20:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Terrorism deaths in Northern Ireland category
On 30 January 2017 removed Category:Terrorism deaths in Northern Ireland. Immediately after posting this mesage I will add it back.

In my opinion, this murder fits the definition of a terrorist act: --LukeSurlt c 11:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It was committed for political reasons, Kerr was killed because he was a PSNI officer.
 * It was committed by non-state actors.
 * The death was considered part of the dissident Irish Republican campaign in the media.


 * It is wikipedia policy not to refer to either loyalist or republican terrorists as terrorists. Apollo The Logician (talk) 16:41, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you link me to this policy please? --LukeSurlt c 21:10, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I cant remember what it is called but I will try to find it. Apollo The Logician (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * did you manage to find it? --LukeSurlt c 11:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Nope but it doesn't really matter its not that big of a deal. Apollo The Logician (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC) Apollo The Logician (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC)