Talk:Murder of Skylar Neese

Not interested in Neese as much as in Eddy
Very little detail about Sheila Eddy in this article. I'd rather have a dedicated article with information on Shelia and perhaps let this article be a subsection of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:9CF4:C581:8319:4E9E:598A:7B7A (talk) 08:11, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Removed reference to blog
Blogs aren't considered valid references by wikipedia, so I removed the reference to the blog.

Marla the Mop (talk) 04:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Name of second suspect
I removed the added reference to the second suspect. Her name has not been publicly released as her case is in juvenile court. A blog is not considered a reputable source. If there is an actual newspaper article or something that names her, then it can be included, I believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mafh01 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Editors, please do not add the name of the second juvenile suspect unless you have a reference in a reputable source to back up this name. A reputable source is a mainstream newspaper, or even a TV news report. A blog is not a reputable source. 64.181.114.4 (talk) 20:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Drugs
A drug has been mentioned. I am not sure that such a carefully planned crime was consistent with drugs. The name of the other girl is easily available with a Google search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.170.49 (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * See http://www.poppot.org/2015/07/03/marijuana-and-friendship-triangle-turned-murder/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.196.0 (talk) 12:15, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Several drugs were used generally. The murder was planned for some time but very amateurish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.196.0 (talk) 13:00, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Shelia Eddy -- first name
I think her actual name is "Shelia" but news articles are calling her Sheila.

These news articles say "Sheila"
 * http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57603299-504083/skylar-neese-update-sheila-eddy-w.va-teen-pleads-not-guilty-in-friends-stabbing-death/
 * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2413738/Skylar-Neese-murder-Second-teen-girl-Sheila-Eddy-suspected-slaying-best-friend-tried-adult.html
 * http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=view&section=5-News&item=Second-Suspect-in-Skylar-Neese-Murder-Case-Transferred-to-Adult-Status11662
 * http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/09/07/12/52/teen-tried-as-adult-for-murder-of-best-friend
 * http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=view&section=5-News&item=Suspect-in-Skylar-Neese-Murder-Case-Indicted11695

These news articles say "Shelia"
 * http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57601480-504083/skylar-neese-update-prosecutors-id-2nd-suspect-in-w-va-teens-murder/
 * http://www.wboy.com/story/23363760/monongalia-county-grand-jury-indicts-114-people-including-sheila-eddy-jerod-green
 * http://www.wowktv.com/story/22131230/update-shelia-eddy-pleads-not-guilty-in-skylar-neese-murder
 * http://www.dailymail.com/policebrfs/201309170037
 * http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/09/shelia-eddy-murder-skylar-neese/
 * This was apparently her twitter: https://twitter.com/_sheliiaa
 * http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/04/prosecutor-names-2nd-suspect-in-teen-murder-plot-says-wva-girl-will-stand-trial/

207.237.187.66 (talk) 05:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

As currently written, the article uses the Shelia spelling, but if there is definitive evidence that it is the other way, we can change it. Unfortunately, I don't think Wikipedia considers the testimony of friends/family/or even the subject themselves to be authoritative. It has to be something citable.

64.181.114.4 (talk) 19:07, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Here is her mugshot. The paper she's holding says Shelia. I consider that to be fairly authoritative in case someone questions it. Bali88 (talk) 20:29, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Date of trial
The trial of Shelia Eddy is expected to start on 22/10/2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.73.93 (talk) 14:59, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * OK add it to the article.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:20, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems to have been postponed to 11/2/2014 now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.73.93 (talk) 16:07, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * After changing her plea to "Guilty", Shelia Eddy was sentenced to life with at least 15 years on 24/1/2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.72.219 (talk) 09:21, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Missing white woman syndrome
I removed the Missing white woman syndrome page from the "See also" links. Skylar does/did not have saturated media coverage and her case is not an example of missing white woman syndrome. Createastorm (talk) 16:33, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Missing Section
What happened to the section "In Popular Culture?" Robert (talk) 23:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Shoaf got 30 years, not 40 years: Source Cited
Rachel Shoaf sentencing hearing on you tube has the judge ordering Shoaf to 30 years, sentenced as an adult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Has7JE51Aos at minute 53:05, Title of video: Rachel Shoaf Sentencing (murder of skylar neese) 208.106.99.64 (talk) 03:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible Additional References

 * Two good references. If anyone wants to add them to the article, please do. I post infrequently.
 * The FB sentence hearing video for Rachel Shoaf with considerable detail and following comments.
 * https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=820336135431155
 * That video has comments afterword from a young man that seems to indicate that Rachael had a less than 'normal' upbringing. I'm not trying to defend her, just pointing to the possibility that her environment may have been instrumental in her lack of judgment/maturity. It's so sad all around.
 * An overview article, Aug 2, 2019 by  Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide.
 * https://meaww.com/amp/skyler-neese-murder-rachel-shoaf-sheila-eddy-tweets-teens-stabbed-best-friend-50-times-count-of-3  &#32;-- Steve --  (talk) 05:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Murder Date Correction (not made)

 * I misread the article. No change made.

Further reading and External links
I sorted and formatted these two sections. I wonder if the two books that now remain in Further reading are books that an encyclopedia would refer to. Without comment I will remove the section entirely. A review would be helpful in evaluating.

Likewise the the website published by Sandt. Is this what an encyclopedia links to? Pretty sure not.

I also formatted both sections. 18:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Victim + Murderer’s twitter pages
Can someone link those? 2601:8C:487E:89E0:FD12:F370:585A:EE8B (talk) 23:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)