Talk:Murray Ball

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The comic strip 'Stanley' appeared in England's PUNCH magazine during the 1970's. It featured a caveman named Stanley who wore glasses and struggled with the neolithic environment but showed touches of his creator's left wing leanings. Stanley, like his successor Wal Footrot, had a loyal companion in the form of a wild dog, no doubt the predecessor of 'the Dog' in Footrot Flats. Often, the dog would take prominance in the strip. This dog's character tends to contradict Ball's claims that the Footrot 'Dog' was based on 'Finn', his own Border Collie farm dog.

I keep reading that "Stanley" was "the longest-running strip in Punch magazine" but cannot find out how long it ran or what the dates were ... ?????? Anybody have any info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.219.231.6 (talk) 23:45, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Politics
When I first read that he was left wing in his views, I was mildly surprised, given his views on feminism. A citation might be useful. Andjam 00:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Politics
When I first read that he was left wing in his views, I was mildly surprised, given his views on feminism. A citation might be useful. Andjam 00:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't provide an online citation, but this is from the author's foreword to 'The Sisterhood' (p. ix):

'This was not an easy book to do... Most of my female friends are feminists and some are lesbians. I cannot deny that some of my material had its origins in what I observed or heard when listening to them. And here we get to why the book was so difficult to do - for the most part I admire and support the aims of the Women's Movement. I am a socialist, my entire political philosophy is based upon the concept of equality and the justice of the feminist cause is undeniable. I'm for it. However there are facets which I find disturbing and counter-productive.'

Braka (talk) 21:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
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Horse
In his epitaph to Horse in Book 7, Murray Ball tells of how the black and white cat strode into his life one day through the rhubarb patch. Ball threw things at him but the cat only retired to a safe distance and when Ball finished, came and rubbed a concrete block of a body against his leg. The cat fought a lot and had battle wounds but was hard enough that a serious wound that would lay a normal cat low for a fortnight was just something to be borne while getting on with life.

While Horse got on well with two new kittens, like the comic strip Horse, he did not tolerate dogs as a young Collie dog found out as it beat a rapid retreat. Death finally came for Horse but he fought it tooth and nail as he had fought all his life and though in terrible pain, Horse clung to life. Finally when Ball could bear it no longer, he took a hammer and one hard blow put the cat finally to rest. A heart broken Ball buried the cat under a young pohutukawa on the hill on his land.(193.250.60.156 (talk) 19:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC))

30 to 50
I changed the number of Footrot Flats books from 'over 30' to 'almost 50' (or words to that effect), based on these maths:

Footrot Flat books:

Vols 1 - 27 (original material) Weekenders 1 - 8 (original material) Pocket Footrot Flats 1 - 5 (original material) Mini Footrot Flats - 1 (original material) The Ballad of Footrot Flats - 1 (original material)

(subtotal = 42)

The making of the movie - 2 (largely original material)

(subtotal = 44)

Collectors Editions - 4 Recent (different) compilations - 4

(total = 52)

Braka (talk) 21:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Significance of the Confurence note?
I believe it's a stretch to include the Conference popularity result as anything significant-- an Australian fan had sent a large shipment of out-of-print Footrot Flats collections that he got extremely cheaply to a number of 'well-networked' individuals involved with the conference only a month or so before. To my knowledge, the popularity of the Dog character has not persisted. I know, because I was that fan... 203.14.156.27 (talk) 18:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

To be frank, I know nothing about the above. However I did attend this conference (Confurence 9, in Buena Park, CA, Jan 1998, I think), and I was one of fewer than five Australian and New Zealanders present, and I didn't fill in the form. You can find the actual results by searching Usenet for around that time. The results were posted by a female fan, who collated the results, and whose name escapes me.

I do believe it is worth noting that the 'furry' community was far more enamoured of FF than the general USA community, despite Schultz's intro to the only FF book published in the USA. This was driven home to me by a rather absurd story which one artist related to me at Anthrcon in either 2000 or 2001. It's a bit off-topic for here, though if anyone is really curious, I'll relate it.

Braka (talk) 10:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Murray Ball's DOB
Does anyone have a definitive birthdate for Murray Ball? This article states 1939, but the biography it links to says 1937 (as does IMDB). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.3.232.247 (talk) 14:22, 23 November 2011 (UTC)