Talk:Mushroom ketchup

"Historically, ketchup was originally prepared with mushrooms as a primary ingredient"
Our ketchup article states:


 * ''In the 17th century, the Chinese mixed a concoction of pickled fish and spices and called it (in the Amoy dialect) kôe-chiap or kê-chiap (鮭汁, Mandarin Chinese guī zhī, Cantonese gwai1 zap1) meaning the brine of pickled fish (鮭, salmon; 汁, juice) or shellfish.


 * By the early 18th century, the table sauce had made it to the Malay states (present day Malaysia and Singapore), where it was discovered by English explorers. The Indonesian-Malay word for the sauce was kecap'' (pronounced "kay-chap"). That word evolved into the English word "ketchup"...

Given this assertion, it is difficult to see how a claim that ketchup was 'originally' made with mushrooms can be supported - unless the ketchup article is wrong. As it stands, the source cited doesn't make the 'pickled fish' claim, but there are certainly sources that do: AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:24, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * This article was updated to state, "In the United Kingdom, ketchup was historically made with mushroom as a primary ingredient" (italic emphasis mine). North America1000 16:27, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Commercial bias
This page contains five separate reference to 'Geo Watkins' ketchup. Even if the brand has some historical significance, this seems like an advert. I'd suggest the article is edited to reduce specific brand mentions, even if they aren't overt advertisements. Amosharper (talk) 11:09, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

In light of this, I removed the following sentence, primarily because it does not add to the article:


 * The company was founded in 1830. ref name="Bell" ref name="Hawkins 2012"

Angryredplanet (talk) 12:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I'd rather remove the text beneath the pics because they are brand names. Any objection? 92.11.237.214 (talk) 17:06, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

The 2nd photo of a pretty basket with mushrooms and the bleedin' obvious written beneath, seems completely unnecessary. I propose removing it. Objections? 92.11.237.214 (talk) 17:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)