Talk:Music-learning theory

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 * I am a bit surprised at this article beginning so late with the 1960s. Learning theory in relation to music dates back to Ancient Greece, and music educators have been pulling on learning theories for just as long. There are many important theories completely left out. Zoltán Kodály's Kodály Method, Émile Jaques-Dalcroze' Dalcroze Eurhythmics, and Carl Orff's Orff Schulwerk should certainly be added. Kodaly was the first music educator to base music education on modern learning theorists, such as Piaget among others, in a serious way beginning in the late 1920s and early 1930s (way before the 1960s).4meter4 (talk) 23:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, please add to the article! This article didn't exist a month ago and I created it as to point out that Edwin Gordon isn't the only prominent music researcher out there (as he coined his own music learning theory). I'm less familiar with the scientific process followed by earlier theorists and didn't find any articles at a glance that address them; I started from scratch with the Taetle/Cutietta article that seems skeptical of research pre-1960's hence the post 1960's bias. FreelanceLlamaHerder (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Much research has been done on Zoltan Kodaly and the research that went into the devolpment of his methodology. It's pretty clear that Taetle/Cutietta missed a big piece of the puzzle (frankly they completely ignore European scholarship) and failed to give credit to the man who really began the first major attempt at incorporating learning theory into a music education methodology and whose development of a rhythmic and melodic instructional sequence is still the current backbone of western music education worldwide. Kodaly was really the first major modern music researcher, and there has been little diversion from Kodaly instructional sequence in any method that has followed. Karl Orff and Émile Jaques-Dalcroze also incorporated learning theory into their methods, although not nearly to the extent of Kodaly. It just seems incredibly strange to have an article on music learning theory that leaves out the three single most influential music educators of the past 100 years. An intro to elementary/primary music education course at most universities is simply a general overview of these three methods.4meter4 (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and renamed the headers in a more neutral manner and included mentions of Kodaly, Orff and others, as well as adding references other than Taetle's. The page is still obviously a stub and it would be better if other people get involved in editing the article! Please add more or figure out a better way of dividing up the sections. I'll be looking into more articles over the next few days and trying to expand the sections too. Does it look more acceptable to you now? Thanks! If you don't have time to edit, link me a few journal articles and I'd be happy to do some extra reading to incorporate into the article. It's a dense subject, so I would imagine it's difficult to articulate such dense information well, so this page will undoubtedly have some evolution to go through. FreelanceLlamaHerder (talk) 02:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)