Talk:Music Is My Hot Hot Sex

Queries

 * There was no single released, and that is not the real music video. 03:27, 11 December 2007 User:68.44.235.14
 * Sorry about that, I should have looked at the video more clearly. It was just made by a fan. However the song was released as a single according to allmusic. It is also referred to as a single on the CSS page, and even includes chart performance. RoamingComedian (talk) 17:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's their one and only single to dent the US Billboard hot 100 singles chart and it almost reached the Canadian singles chart as well. Please make some research before stating it is/was not a single release. 13:29 & 13:30, 25 January 2008 User:195.110.70.55
 * Why was the video removed from YouTube? That sounds like a conspiracy theory for me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.156.253 (talk) 08:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The "Zune Advertisement" this song appeared in may or may not have been televised nationally as a commercial. It runs at over 1:00 in length. Was it ever "trimmed" for use as a standard commercial? Perhaps the video was use as some sort of "internal" marketing?
 * If so, the inclusion of the "Zune" reference can be construed as a Microsfoft supporter's attempt to lessen the the impact the song had when it was included in the Apple iPod ad. The song (and the band) was more or less unknown until it appeared in the iPod ad, and record sales spiked because--and only because-- of that ad. The use of their music in a random, forgotten Zune video (which may or may not be an actual TV commercial) is insignificant.
 * The source of the video appears on a Microsoft employee's blog page--which may or may not be unbiased.
 * Just my two cents. 02:24, 21 April 2008 User:162.84.229.161

History repair

 * Page Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex started as page Music Is My Hot Hot Sex by copy-and-paste from an older page Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex, whose edits after the copy-and-paste I moved to Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex (version 2) while repairing page Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex's hstory. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's good you noticed the missing history, but isn't the official name of the song actually "Music Is My Hot Hot Sex" without a comma? Bognan72 (talk) 00:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was moved to remove the comma. WP:COMMONNAME trumps grammar rules every time. Aervanath talks like a mover, but not a shaker 19:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex → Music Is My Hot Hot Sex — The name of the track given on the album itself lacks the comma. Note that for the track "This Month, Day 10" the artwork does show the comma, which indicates the lack of the comma is not part of the album artwork's style. — Icalanise (talk) 12:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * Oppose Albums, books, and other works often drop punctuation or use idiosyncratic capitalization that don't make sense in or have any application to use in normal text. -Rrius (talk) 20:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * However there isn't a rule in English which requires a comma between adjectives. For example I might describe a method of transportation as a big yellow taxi, or I could describe it as a big, yellow taxi... both forms are correct (this is not to say there isn't a difference in emphasis between the two). Icalanise (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Whether a comma is required depends on whether the adjectives modify the noun in the same way. In your example, it turns on whether you are describing a big "yellow taxi" or a big and yellow taxi. The ability to use "and" between the adjectives is a good rule of thumb, but it fails in situations like "hot, hot", where the adjective is repeated for effect. In those cases, there again should be a comma. -Rrius (talk) 06:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Even so, the closest WP:TITLE gets on this matter appears to be "Do not replicate stylized typography in logos and album art". I do not believe this falls under this because the album art does use a comma for "This Month, Day 10". It seems fairly clear that the intended title does not use a comma, but hey if Wikipedia wants to set itself up as an arbiter of what artists can and can't call their works, no problems. Let's also go and get rid of the spelling mistake in The Pursuit of Happyness while we're at it. Icalanise (talk) 11:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Since I don't have a copy of the album and there isn't one displayed on the article page, I can't really respond. It is possible that the fonts are different, that they are different "layers" of the printed image, and that there was no conscious thought behind the inconsistency. It is obvious that "Happyness" is an intentional mispelling. It is not obvious that dropping the comma has any artistic basis at all. Commas are also often dropped on book covers and title pages, but that does not mean the comma-less version is the correct book title. In other words, dropping a comma, for books and albums, is just "stylized typography". -Rrius (talk) 21:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I do have a physical copy of the album. The fonts are the same for all tracks in the listing. The song titles are rendered in the same way on the inside of the booklet ("This Month, Day 10" has a comma, "Music Is My Hot Hot Sex"), which lends credence to the idea that the comma is intentionally missing. Icalanise (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. The sources from this article seem split on whether there is a comma but if the album itself doesn't list a comma why should we? Oren0 (talk) 09:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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