Talk:Music of New Zealand

Pioneer NZ photo
I uploaded Image:kiwiperformersc.1906.jpg, but am too incompetent with photos to make it a reasonable size. Can someone else please do so? Tuf-Kat 04:15, Jan 23, 2004 (UTC)

Done. Images below: Lupo 18:53, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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My resized version apparently got lost... use the new image markup to size it appropriately! Lupo 15:17, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

In the absence of any documentation or provenance, I would seriously question whether the photograph above can be described as a photo "of performers". only 3 of the 16 men have musical instruments, some are indicating their trades (barber, baker?). There must be better historical photos of actual musical troupes. dramatic 2 July 2005 21:18 (UTC)


 * Seems genuine, there's a stuffed kiwi in the foreground and a guy reading the "Truth" newspaper. Probably more appropriate for the History of New Zealand or Culture of New Zealand. Could it be a sly grog bar in the bush? Ropata (talk) 23:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

New pages
I was thinking that maybe we'd be better off seperating a lot of the info in this page. For example, starting a "Popular Music in New Zealand" page which would leave this page with all the more traditional stuff. Or even starting "New Zealand Hip Hop" and "New Zealand Rock" pages. There's a lot of history already and it'll make things easier for the future.Kansaikiwi 02:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe we already have New Zealand hip hop and Kiwi rock. There should be New Zealand popular music, New Zealand classical music and New Zealand folk music articles as well.  This article needs to encompass an introduction to all of New Zealand music, however, in Summary style. Tuf-Kat 05:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Until those subtopics have decent articles of their own, there is no reason to slim down this page. Also, it's often better to create one good encyclopedic article than have lots of little pages. That way people can find good info without having to click through links. Papeschr 04:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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 * I agree this article needs some serious TLC; here are my critiques
 * Too many links -- the article might as well be a List of NZ Musicians
 * Seriously needs a copyedit and re-org of the sub headings
 * Too many editors with agendas for their beloved group/artist/style to get noticed
 * The earlier point about Summary Style is now quite relevant, the article probably does need slimming down.
 * Papeschr 07:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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The Checks
See we've had a mention of them for a while. Anyone up to creating an entry? Also Pluto was mentioned and they dropped off. Don't they deserve a wikipedia article too? 210.55.130.65 01:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Kog
Can someone with more knowledge than me please mention Kog Transmissions somewhere? I'm guessing it deserves it's own page too. Kansaikiwi 11:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

labels
ok, how about a List of New Zealand record labels? Kansaikiwi 10:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Kiri Te Kanawa?
The fact that there's even a Classical Music section with no mention of her is quite mystifying.
 * Not really. Since her farewell concert about 1970, she's only performed here a few times. She's made one CD of Maori music - in London. Her impact on New Zealand music is virtually zero. --Hugh7 23:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not true - her final opera concert was 2004 and she is still doing other public singing. She had considerable impact on NZ music as an inspiration to others and she also gained international exposure for traditional and contemporary Maori songs via recordings of songs like ‘Pokarekare Ana’. See http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/node/4547 .Jamie Mackay 23:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Maori music
This section is really inadequate. There are subdivisions of traditional music. The view of explorers that the Maori did not sing is simply mistaken. I doubt the connection with imeni tuki. A kapa haka is a performing group, not a kind of peromance. In view of the work of Hirini Melbouren and Richrd Nunns, there needs to be a whole section on Maori instrumental music. --Hugh7 23:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Fly my Pretties
Can they be added somewhere? Kansaikiwi 15:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Metal
Metal added as this music has recently been emerging in large numbers of bands, and should be recognised. See: 8 Foot Sativa, Sinate, Dawn of Azazel, Cripple Mr Onion etc. Wikiphreak 21:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

recent edits to alternative
who wrote that rubbish. someone seems to have re written this section to re write history to their own perspective. failsafe records was around in the 80's their first release was in 1984, It has been re written to say many indie label "were a response to flying nuns commercialism in the 90's",

????? who says this is true at all. where are you getting your information from????

revival of emo?? its the first time round for most of that stuff.

wbc and managers as punk bands????. they're ska, thankfully someone else fixed that mistake.

This page has been ruined in an effort to write your personal favorite bands into history and move the focus from the actual version. good night nurse are not alternative or indie, they're mainstream punk lite. Kitsch, Cobra Khan, City Newton Bombers representative of the nz punk scene??? come on!!!

how far back do we have to take this section to restore it to some degree of accuracy. the present content is a mess.Nzindie (talk) 00:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

OMC
The article states that How Bizarre became three1/2 times platinum and has not been matched. I'm pretty sure Ben Lummis' 'They can't take that away' was four times platinum. Denoting sales of 40000. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.154.101.17 (talk) 09:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Patriotic/nationalistic songs
There is a list of popular songs in the infobox that we identify with as New Zealanders, but they aren't necessarily patriotic or nationalistic. What makes a song patriotic or nationalistic? Atiru (talk) 13:34, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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repeated melodic line?
Pre-Colonial Māori music was microtonal, with a repeated melodic line that did not move far from a central pitch - what do you mean, all the songs repeat a single melodic line, or different songs have a repeated melodic line? --A1 (talk) 19:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)