Talk:Music of Quebec

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Culture of Quebec
The reason I removed Category:Culture of Quebec is because it is less specific than Category:Quebec music. According to Categorization, articles should be at their most specific categories. Tuf-Kat 22:02, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Disputed
The accuracy of historical facts must be verified regarding the first paragraph. I did a quick checkup and some sources claim that, after the Treaty of Utrecht, New France was divided into five colonies (one of which was named Canada); other sources never mention that and simply refer to Canada as a region of New France, which is itself referred to as the French colony.

Despite the article not being directly history-related, I feel it is important to verify the historical facts in the first paragraph, as well as in the third paragraph. (In particular, I would be quite interested to find out the sources behind that third paragraph.)


 * Here is a clear source for the 5 colonies each having their own administration:


 * http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/nllefce/fr/intro1.htm


 * This is from the website of the Ministry of Culture of the French Republic. -- Mathieugp 05:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I support mathieugp point of view. Also, I suspect inaccuracies in the description given about the roots of Quebec traditional music. Quebec traditional music has clearly received Celtic influence, but my impression is that this influence comes from the Irish immigration, not the French immigration. Irish immigration in Quebec during the 18th and 19th centuries was intense, and an important number of them adopted the French language and were culturally integrated to the Quebecois, Mary Travers, known as La Bolduc, being the most paradigmatic illustration of this situation. Historians estimate that up to 40% of today's Quebecois have Irish ancesters at some point of their archeological trees (see http://www.tolerance.ca/Article.aspx?ID=222&L=en&sc=1). Moreover, contrary to what the article says, it is highly dubious that Brittany contributed to this celtic influence because, contrary to popular belief, very few Quebec immigrants (certainly less than 3%) came from this region, due to political tensions happening in the metropole between the French king and the Britanny leaders. As for Normandy and Poitou, I am not aware that these regions were under strong Celtic influence, and what I know of tradtional music from Normandy doesn't sound celtic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.202.95.16 (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I have been studying this subject all day. I believe the authors point is to allude to the fact that most of France is difinitively of Celtic origin. Although speculative, it likely would still be of Celtic origin today, if not for the imposing will of Julius Ceasar and the Roman Empire. When Julius Ceasar conquered what is now France, he titled the majority of that Roman Gaul Provence, "Celtica" in order to differentiate between the Pyraneean/Iberian South and the Belgian/Germanic North. Even at the end of the Roman Empire this Celtica region of Gaul was still speaking Celtic and if not for the precipitous fall of the Romans, likely would have made a smooth transition to Celtic culture, similar to the current "Celtic-Realm". Instead, the Germanic Franks reconstituted Celtica and Gaul after itself and thus we have modern day France and the French Language. (France = Franks) The Scandinavian Vikings also helped fill the void by conquering the Normandy region of France (Nor = Norwegian). The Normen subsequently conquered Britain in a similar fashion and so Britain underwent the same foreign filled vacuum as did Gaul. Britain likely, would have also retained the Celtic tradition if not for the "Roman Vacuum" filled by the Germanic Tribes of the Angles (Angles = Anglos of "Anglo-Saxons") and the Saxons, conquering what had been the Roman Provence of Brittania. So if not for the Roman Empire, France would almost certainly be named Celtica or Celticia. Scotland and Ireland would almost certainly be named Gaelica or Gaelicia according to the Latin tradition. These are obvious speculations based on fact. Another speculation is that Britain prefers the term Britain over the term England based on the fact that England is a derivative of Angles/Anglos. Furthermore, the fact is, France is technically more Celtic in origin than are Ireland Scotland or Wales! Celtic people originated in the German Alps and although speculative, they likely followed the terrain to warmer, and more fertile lower levels which led them to the lowlands that are current day France.

Metal
Why is it not mentioned once in the article? Many bands of Quebec played an important role in the Death metal scenes such as Cryptopsy and Gorguts

I also agree with this, undisputably the majority of notable Canadian Death Metal acts come from the more technical leaning Quebec scene. Also progressive Metal acts Dead Brain Cells and especially Voivod have had a huge impact on a variety of genres the world over. 24.150.132.75 03:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

La vie musicale en Nouvelle-France
Published in 2003 La vie musicale en Nouvelle-France, fills the gap in the history of music in Quebec. For those interested in improving the article... -- Mathieugp (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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The text "The Orchestre symphonique de Québec and the Orchestre symphonique de Montréal are respectively" is at the end of the lead. @Shawnqual do you know what it was supposed to say, or has it been too long and I should just remove it StolenStatue (talk) 02:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)