Talk:Musikverein

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I'm not quite sure about the positive effects the last edits had on this short article. (1) Do we need two photos? (2) Why was the New Year's Concert de-linked? (3) As far as I know, the renovation work has been finished. The last sentence now reads as if it were still going on.  22:43, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry &mdash; the English was very confusing, mixing the past perfect and the present perfect with inappropriate prepositions. I tried to make sense of it by making the English consistent. I take it that it should in fact be inthe simple past? If so, I'll rewrite it. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 22:47, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I'm no longer certain now, but at least walking past the building no longer gives you the impression that renovation work is going on inside. Maybe someone else knows for sure?  22:56, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

One of the finest concert halls
References are needed for this: It is considered to be one of the three finest concert halls in the world, along with Boston's Symphony Hall and Amsterdam's Concertgebouw. Cheers, --Karljoos (talk) 15:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've added a ref. It actually rates in the top 5 which are listed in the Notes section. Viva-Verdi (talk) 15:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Hyacinth (talk) 06:34, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You must be kidding. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 21:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Might be a bit nitpicky, but "Musikverein" is pronounced without a glottal stop (and a schwa) in Austrian German. i.e. muˌziːkfəʁˈaɪ̯n Dahauns (talk) 08:54, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * There seems to be a determined drive by those who are cognisant of the finer details of IPA symbols to make Wikipedia's help in the pronunciation of foreign words as inaccessible to casual IPA users as possible. I'm all for simplifying those symbol salads, all the better if it gains in precision. Frankly, I could live with the final diphthong simply as "aɪ". -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree somewhat (I'm somewhat skeptical that it really gains in precision, though...). At least the use of the inverted breve should be consistent with the IPA help page. Dahauns (talk) 14:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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English style
The Wikipedia style manual instructs us to translate non-English names into English, if in their original language they have meaning, e.g. in Austrian German "Neujahrskonzert der Wiener Philharmoniker" means "New Year's Concert of the Vienna Philharmonic". The section I edited had "Kaiser von Österreich" translated to "Emperor of Austria" while "Bösendorferstrasser" was not translated to "Bösendorfer street." (Seriously, if your native language is Swahili, you are not likely to recognize "strasser" as a cognate word for "street," the English word you know, and thus might think this is a building whose name can not be translated.) I translated everything that has a meaning in German. Nick Beeson (talk) 13:28, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Where does the MoS instruct us thus? I think the rule is to use an English name if that can be sourced. Here, the "Musikverein" (the article name) is not translated because nobody does. Same for "Großer Saal" etc. These are the names used by the Musikverein on their English language website. "Great Hall" is only an approximation of "Großer Musikvereinssaal". As for "Straße": Wikipedia has quite a few articles with "-straße", and I'm not aware of any movement to change them. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC)