Talk:Muteness/Archive 1

Things suggested
Can mute people laugh? Do you actually have to make the sound to feel the pleasure? Can they cry? They can shed tears, but obviously can't make any sounds while doing it, what about yawning and whistling? 71.174.126.186 (talk) 05:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

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What is the rationale to include this sentence? "Also, in the Gospel of Mark, Jesus healed a deaf and mute man in the Israeli/Roman city of Decapolis.". I think it is a little bit out of place.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.12.203.106 (talk) 12:34, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI, here it is two years later, and this sentence (which I find very interesting as a reminder) is not in the Article. Good thing it is here in TALK for the most interested among us. What is the problem with including a quote from the scriptures ? Just asking, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 01:49, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Browsing around, I see that the story in the scripture (New Testament) is included in a separate Wikipedia article, Healing_the_deaf_mute_of_Decapolis. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:40, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Silence due to psychological issues
What about people who stop speaking, either temporarily or permanently, due to mental illness and/or trauma? Should this be mentioned here?
 * Seems to be mentioned, as of this date. Thanks to editors, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 01:54, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Initial
I was surprised that this was not an article, so I created it. The reason I looked it up was to find out information about it, so please help wikipedia (and me!) by expanding it. :D --Demonesque 02:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Mute should not be labeled a disorder if the person chooses to be mute. Rm999 04:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, what a short article!.. and for something so known! It needs the anatomical or neurological causes for it. And maybe some stats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.33.186 (talk) 00:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You too can help. MrZaius  talk  09:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

A Google search for muteness turns up almost nothing of substance. And Edgar Muteny, who is mentioned in this article as the person for whom muteness was named, seems to be mentioned nowhere else on the World Wide Web (unless you count sites that mirror Wikipedia articles). - Lunasspecto (talk) 04:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Page title
Why isn't this at muteness? That is the proper name for it, right? The disorder is not called "mute", that's what you call someone who suffers from it. We can make muteness a redirect, but it seems more sensible to me to do it the other way around. Deafness and blindness are not at deaf (disorder) and blind (disorder), after all. 82.95.254.249 21:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Here it is five years later; apparently we can end up here at the "Muteness" Wikipedia page, selecting from half a dozen choices if you go to the "Mute" page. Is this good? I think so, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 01:59, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Very Short Article
This article is very short. I wanted to learn a little more. Especially since I'm doing research. What classifies a person of being mute? What are the psychological effects of being mute? Can the mute person make grunts? etc..71.142.214.138 (talk) 05:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)Cardinal Raven
 * Four years later, progress on the Article is slow; I'm not knowledgeable nor in the field. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Question
Can a mute person whisper? Technically, the vocal cords require no stimulation to whisper, the mouth only needs to make sound-shapes over the outgoing air. So can mutes whisper? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.155.238 (talk) 06:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Whispering still uses the vocal cords; voiced phonemes are whispered with the vocal cords constricted rather than vibrated. 98.110.175.105 (talk) 19:56, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Etymology
This thing about muteness being named after a 14th century poet "Edgar Muteny" seems to be a hoax. Not even a clever one. Online etymological dictionary etymonline.com states:

mute ''late 14c., mewet "silent," from O.Fr. muet, dim. of mut, mo, from L. mutus "silent, dumb," probably from imitative base *mu- (cf. Skt. mukah "dumb," Gk. myein "to be shut," of the mouth). Assimilated in form in 16c. to L. mutus. The verb is first attested 1861. Related: Muted; muting. Musical noun sense first recorded 1811, of stringed instruments, 1841, of horns.''

Since I'm not a native english speaker though, I wouldn't change it immediately for I could have gotten the sentences meaning wrong. I will delete it in a couple of days or so if everyone is fine with this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.250.133.221 (talk) 12:27, 12 February 2010 (UTC)