Talk:My-HiME

Titling
I question the spelling of "Mai". While the transliteration is correct, it seems that most fansubbers are spelling it My Hime, not Mai Hime. Further, the japanese homepage uses "my", not "mai" in the spelling of its links. http://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/my-hime for example.

Even the japanese version of this very article seems to use the "My" spelling in the paragraph quoted below (assuming my Japanese isn't too rusty):

タイトルの由来については、様々なタイプのいわゆる「& &#12461;&#12515;&#12521;」が登場することから、「自分自身にとっての(My)お姫様(HiME)を見つけて下さい」という制作者の主張が込められているほか、「HiME」は「Highly-advanced Materialising Equipment」（高次物質化能力）の略称でもある（&#23554;&#38272;&#29992;&#35486;の見出しも参照の事）. &の小説「&」との関係はない.

The title is supposed to mean 'My Princess', so that might be a better idea for this WP. Philip Nilsson 15:58, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I've noticed people (usually anonymous users) keep changing "My" to "Mai" perhaps we should have a hidden thing telling people not to do that, it gets somewhat obnoxious to have to keep changing that when our consensus is that it's "My" and changing it tends to break links. --Katsuhagi 21:13, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. --Gwern (contribs) 22:26 20 January 2007 (GMT)
 * Thanks! I think that'll help keep this sort of thing from happening as often. Katsuhagi 22:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The reason for Mai instead of My leads due to the main characters name "Mai". In reference to Philip's discussion, the title is a play on words. The "Mai" is meant to be a play on the word "My", but not to be translated directly within the title. The title will always be changed back and forth because those that have previously seen the subbed version will remember "Mai-HiME", while those who retrieved the dubbed release will remember "My-HiME" Vitality15 18:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Additional character articles?
So far we have ones for Mai, Natsuki and Shizuru. Can people think of any other characters who deserve articles of their own? Katsuhagi 23:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Shizuru's "raping" of Natsuki
I personally feel this is too strong a word for use here, especially since the actual act is left ambiguous. I think this word should be replaced with a different one (perhaps "sexually assaults" or something similar) partially due to the negative connotation and severity of the word when used in popular culture.--Katsuhagi 00:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

The only thing the series shows is Shizuru lying down next to Natsuki. Making the leap of logic from that to rape is insane.

- As this's partially about Shizuru, I'd also like to point out that her character details have some arguable information. First of all, it says that she "massacred hundreds" during her rampage against the First District. No body-count is ever displayed in the series, and Mashiro's visit to the FD some episodes earlier only revealed a few elderly people present. Therefore the article is a bit inaccurate, and should be put in some less exaggerating manner. Also, it's hardly debatable that Shizuru's bloodlust was in deed caused by the Obsidian Lord/HiMe Star: In the episode where she finally snaps, it's shown quite plainly how her eyes switch colour from the normal red/brown to obsidian. Her sudden remorse after the resurrection scene also supports this. Thus, this should be considered as a fact for the article. End of nitpicking. Rexas 20:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

About The Name...
It should be noted that one feature of "Mai-HiME" Anime is that it is full of word play in the Japanese dialog. It is not really a mistake or coincidence that "Mai-HiME" can be turned into "My Princess" for the sake of another play on words. --Tomar 22:20, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Seems like there are two spellings used. Mai- is correct transliteration as you say. Animesuki lists 3 subgroups using Mai-, and 3 using My-, so it's not like the former spelling is non-existent. The url spellings in the two official japanese sites use my- and mai-. Plus redirects solves multiple spellings so it seems like a trivial problem. --69.214.227.51 07:09, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

True enough, which is why I didn't run off and change it immediately. This does seem like an interesting bit of trivia that might be of interest in the main article. We could even steal Tomar's explination above with just a tad of word smithing.

- OracleofTroy 01:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I support staying as close to the real japanese title as possible. Better the actual title of it should use the kanji for Mai rather than Mai. The "official" title IS Mai-HiME however you put it. I support using the true title. http://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/my-hime/web/index.html This is the official site for mai-hime and it uses my-hime in the web address but in the news section it uses MAIHIME to refer to it. But, as said above the literal reading of it is Mai rather than My. Japanese like to slur in english words with their own. Ergzay 02:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OTOH, "Mai-HiME" doesn't have the pun value that "My-HiME" does. The pun is intentional and the Japanese My-HiME article mentions it. --Shimei 03:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Mai Otome - the second season?
I am not sure we can call it a second season, if the only common thing is the character design. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:25, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, it can be argued that Mai Otome is the alternate universe of HiME. Slur 14:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * There is also evidence that My-Otome is set in the future of My-HiME. Shiroi Hane 10:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I also agree that there is plenty evidence to support that Mai-Otome is indeed set "many hundred years" in the future of the same universe as Mai-HiME. Miyu gives many statements that support it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Banggugyangu (talk • contribs) 07:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Changes
Cleared up a few spelling errors; i.e. "Isukahime" properly spelled "Ikusahime". Jan 2006 -Wavedash


 * I've updated the episode list into what's supposed to be the wikipedia's standard. It still requires some more information, like original airdates and such. Rexas 14:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Mai-HiME Manga
Should a seperate page be created for the Manga as it has a completely diffrent storyline?
 * Also, I think that the manga shouldn't get a seperate page, just it's own section. Kiriyama 01:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Depends on whether or not you can contribute enough information. The Otome manga diverges enough to justify doing so, but I do not know about the HiME manga. --Warp L. Obscura 06:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * the manga is greatly different, with the Obsidian Lord being Takumi. the story is told through Tate's eyes and that he didnt suffer a kendo ingury, but was atacked trying to stop a mugging Shinigami Josh 10:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * If you can craft one up... Go for it. Be Bold. We have one for MO's manga already and it still has loads of room for improvement. I believe you can do the same for MH? --Warp L. Obscura 15:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

ok, will be done, my formating is a bit off (spelling ect.) and it would help if after i have done it for some one to go over it and fix it upShinigami Josh 02:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

-- It seems like this was shut down, but I seriously think that we need to make a HiME manga page. I just finished reading volumes 2-5 and after seeing Nagi's situation, as well as the PRINCESSes and QUEENs, not to mention the, uh, 'Child', I believe that warrants the creation. I can try to create a page, but I can guarantee it will be terrible. -_-; But, considering it is 1:30 in the morning here, I will do it later. If and when the page is created, I would like to ask the HiME editors to help with the page. Linkforlife 07:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

english voice overs
I thought that Haley Joel Osment was going to do Tate's voice. Kiriyama 01:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Fixed some descriptions
Nao's mother fell into a coma because she was a victim of a robbery.

Calling into question the neutrality of Mai's romantic interests on her profile paragraph.
I have no problem with views on Mai having potential with either Tate, Reito, or Mikoto, but there is one sentence that I think should be more closely examined. "It seems obvious that..." Though there is some attempt at "qualifying" this statment with the word "seems", it is still a subjective, rather than objective comment that I feel is attempting to influence the reader to a particular view on the subject. What exactly was wrong with the way that it was before that comment was added? All possibilities were given mention, and the viewer of both the series and the article was left to make their own conclusion without being told what is "obvious". I was advised to post a "poll" of sorts, an RfC I suppose? I would like to, but admit that I am unfamiliar with the process, according to the page on the matter am I merely to create a topic on this discussion page calling for an RfC on the issue described, and provide a link to the main page?

Love-is-god 06:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on that. I think keeping in that she states she loves Tate and removing the rest would suffice.

Katsuhagi 20:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

My-Otome suggests it's Mikoto due to her love of Mai's cooking (it's stated that Mikoto ate Mai's gem and thereby made a pact with her) and the characters and relationships in My-Otome and My-HiME are very much alike (My-Otome often in a parodic manner). One could say the two animes just use some of the same characters, but it does explain in a way why Mai keeps her powers after Takumi and Tate (whom Mai and her enemies think of as Mai's most important person (respectfully - Takumi first, then Tate)) die and why Mai never gives up on Mikoto after her initial rage.

Shorttail 13:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Tail, that's the view I agree with as well, it seems quite logical overall- Mai keeps powers after MIP's die, several heartfelt scenes between the two, what more do you want? But one can see that me supporting putting such a thing into the article would be exactly what I'm arguing against. Despite my own opinion on the matter, it needs to be left up for the viewer of the series to decide without anybody on this site telling them what's "logical" or "obvious".

Love-is-god 18:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Er, it's directly shown that Mai thinks of Mikoto as a sister. Since Takumi was apparently her original MIP, then platonic love does count. Also, I was always under the impression that if a child days, then the MIP dies as well, not vice versa. Anyway, Tate doesn't seem to exist in Mai-Otome. In one of the OVA's, Mai wonders why everyone thinks of her as the tragic otome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.108.39 (talk) 00:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Character pages
Need suggestions. Whose character page to do next?
 * I'd suggest Haruka since she has radically different backgrounds in HiME and Otome. I think that it would be the best use of time to to characters with greatly different versions of themselves in each version. Katsuhagi 21:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Started. Now, anyone else? I was thinking Midori or Reito... --Warp L. Obscura 14:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Midori might be a good one, though I think that perhaps Tate might be a candidate given his different roles in the manga and anime, and his small but important role in the MO manga. Katsuhagi 02:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yuuichi Tate started but bad. Input highly appreciated. --Warp L. Obscura 02:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Midori Sugiura started. --Warp L. Obscura 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, Yukino Kikukawa is now up. I think Mikoto should probably get one too at some point. Katsuhagi 21:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I finally made the move from Juliet Nao Zhang to Nao Yuuki. Could do with work, though, especially with regards to the still stub-marked MH manga section. --Warp L. Obscura 15:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

whats with the scarf?
the only time i see Mai's scarf in My-HiME is in the images, not in the actual anime. then in both the My-Otome manga and anime she has the scarf. what is the significance of that?

Untrue. From the OP: From Ep 26:. So it existed in the anime. Significance, no idea. Most likely a SSStylistic touch, if an underused one. --Warp L. Obscura 12:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Nagi as Loki
I dont think that the sentence In the Valkyries tale he would best fit the role of Loki. should be included in Nagi's block. While this statement is true, the valkyries applies to Searrs, and Nagi is a part of the First District. He is one that apposes Searrs, so I dont think that is really valid. Linkforlife 02:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * From the way I took it, "Valkyrie" can refer to a HiME as well. Greer refers to the natural HiME as Valkyries when he's observing them. It even says in the article proper that a Valkyrie is one way to refer to a HiME. Katsuhagi 02:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but the reason Greer calls them Valkyries is because he is with Searrs. None of the HiMEs or the First District call them that. There are a lot of Norse mythology references in the Searrs Foundation, but thats it. Its only in the Searrs Foundation. Linkforlife 03:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps so. I think perhaps taking out the Valkyrie refernce might be best, but Nagi most definately fits the role of Loki or a trickster. I'm not entirely it's ever established who exactly he works for, as in the last episode he essentially says he'll have to do something else. I also vaguely recall something about him going to Valhalla with Mashiro. Katsuhagi 23:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Lord of the Flies?
I haven't read this book, so I am not an expert in the field. I did read the page about it on Wikipedia though, and I don't think My-HiME is a parody of it. The latter portions of the two stories are similar in that they both have a group of people fighting amongst themselves in order to gain power, I don't think that qualifies as a parody. Could the anonymous editor 150.216.225.165 please explain they're reasoning? Linkforlife 22:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, for starters, did Nagi actually ever read Lord of the Flies? We should at least verify the basic claims. I don't remember seeing him do so, but I certainly wasn't watching hard. --Gwern (contribs) 00:22 19 December 2006 (GMT)


 * I think I remember him reading it, but I don't remember what episode or when. If they go hand in hand like the claim, it would probably be when the battle is starting, when Nao 'attacks' Yukariko. I can look later tonight. Linkforlife 16:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The Dancing Girl?
That clarification link at the top? I did a background check, that novel has absolutely nothing to do with the My-HiME animé other than being called Maihime (舞姫). I'm wondering why it says My-HiME and the associated "My-" franchise is based off of it, when it clearly is not. In anycase, I'd consider either removing it or rewording it to reduce confusion. My-HiME is not about a female German dancer who is rejected by a Japanese man whom she develops feelings for. --Robtf 04:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe I'm missing something, but where does it say My-HiME has anything to do with Maihime besides the title? --Gwern (contribs) 04:32 20 December 2006 (GMT)


 * This article is about the anime series and the franchise based upon it. It says it's based on it. It's poor wording that is too ambiguous. --Robtf 04:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You're totally misreading it. The "it" can only refer to concrete objects already mentioned; only the My-HiME article and the My-HiME anime series are concrete objects which precede the it in the sentence - the book is mentioned after the "it", which makes no sense if the "it" were a variable representing the book. "This (article) is about the (anime series and the franchise based on the anime series)", if that helps. The disambiguation notice is a common formulation seen throughout Wikipedia. I do not think it is poor wording. --Gwern (contribs) 04:52 20 December 2006 (GMT)


 * It makes no mention of it being unrelated. In the end, that's all I'm saying.--Robtf 04:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well if Robtf can't disambiguate a disambiguation notice then it isn't doing its job. It will need to be re-written. How about This article is about the anime series and its adaptions. For the 1890 novel by Mori Ogai, see The Dancing Girl. ?? --Squilibob 09:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

HiME Page Revision
I want to let everyone know that I am willing to do a massive addition of info to the HiME and Otome pages. I want to include personal pages for all the main characters and also organize the info better, as well as do a HiME manga page. The one thing I will need major help on is pics - I don't know much about how to get them or how to upload them, so the addition of more pics, especially manga pics, will be really appreciated. I also need help linking sources and such.

Thanx! Saintvlas22 01:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. Regarding pictures, if I have time I can upload some. Diabound00 08:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Categoization
It's less confusing to put all the HiME stuff together, and all the Otome stuff together, instead of grouping both the animes and both the mangas togehter. The Otome OVA stuff should be included simply in the Otome part of a characters article, for simplicity's sake. Also, instead of a general description for the character, I am going to write up a bio for them each, with the bio containing all the major events that have happened to them in the anime and the manga. I am finished totally with Midori's article; some pictures there would really be appreciated, as it's looking quite bare right now save for text. I'll be done all the characters that have articles on them by the end of the week, I just need someone to open up personal articles for the rest of the HiME's (Mikoto Minagi, Akane Higurashi, Sister Yukariko, Shiho Munakata, Akira Okuzaki, Yukino Kikukawa, Fumi Himeno) as well as for Mashiro Kazehana and Nagi Homura. For Juliet Nao Zhang and Mashiro Blan de Windblume articles, I think they should be changed tot heir HiME counterparts so it matches with the other existing articles, so it should be Nao Yuuki and Mashiro Kazehana instead. i also think that a page for seconday HiME and Otome characters should be created, four in total for the manga and animes.

Sorry for the long winded post, but the Mai HiME/Otome pages are kinda neglected, and I just need everything to be started, and I can take on the bulk of it myself (along with some people sending pictures). Thanx! Saintvlas22

I added a new plot synopsis, since the old one simply outlined the first episode of the series. I think it needed to include the basic thread of the storyline, as well as a vague outline of what to expect in it.
 * I think what you put is a much better synopsis, so Kudos for taking that upon yourself. Katsuhagi 18:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject?
I was wondering if there is enough scope to qualify for a WikiProject? A central portal for unified discussion on improving the articles of My-HiME and My-Otome would help to make dealing with them easier, considering that we have in excess of 16 (13 HiMEs + Arika + Nina + Mashiro) character articles, in addition to the four "main pages" (MH anime & manga, MO anime & manga) plus a potential fifth if we make one for Zwei like Hellsing has for Hellsing Ultimate. The fact that a fair number of these articles are only Start-Class despite the work put into them is also good rationale for one.

What say y'all? --Warp L. Obscura 14:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Considering the plan for the My-HiME Big Bang Project and thus the fact that a lot of material will be released I wouldn't mind creating one. However I don't know if enough people will join and how much work would be put into this project. Diabound00 15:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think there should be at least three more people who could be interested in this; Katsuhagi, Linkforlife and Saintvlas22. Not counting the various other editors without a specific focus on the subject matter. That makes 5 of us, which is the minimum suggested on WikiProject Council/Proposals. --Warp L. Obscura 02:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I would be interested and would put backing into this. Katsuhagi 03:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's such a good idea. A Wikiproject is a lot of work, and the bare minimum (and I doubt all five listed people are fanatical persons who definitely will not drift away and are willing to tackle all that work) is an awfully risky place to start from. If you start it and it molders halfway through, you'll be worse off than before, and it'll actually get in the way of actually working on articles. --Gwern (contribs) 03:01 5 March 2007 (GMT)

The thing is that, with all the discussion scattered over the various pages, it constitutes a lack of efficiency to run around all of them. A "place" to consolidate the discussion would help to unify the text for easier reference. Perhaps a task force would be better? --Warp L. Obscura 03:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, My-Otome Zwei page started, but I am the only editor for that article as of now... --Warp L. Obscura 15:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the character template is good, but then I think you should add other characters on it listing in "Others" or in "Miscellanious characters" listing characters like Yuuichi Tate, Takumi Tokiha, Nagi Homura, and Haruka Suzushiro who also have supporting roles.

Musicalmelodygirl 9:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I've begun adding infoboxes to the character articles under the MH sections, since that might be a way to gather some of the information (height, weight, etc.) and add a sense of continuity. I saw someone do that for the Mai article and have put them on a few more since, and have made the colors the colors mainly associated with that character (Shizuru's is purple, Haruka's is green, Natsuki's is blue). Katsuhagi 22:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

After seeing some considerably "smaller" animes get info templates of their own, I've been working on one for MH/MO, but it needs some work before we can officially make it our own. Here's what's currently been done...

Feel free to suggest improvements, I know it needs many. --Warp L. Obscura 15:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that My-HiME and My-Otome should have their own separate templates. Also, I don't feel that there is a critical distinction between the HiMEs and the other characters. Some HiMEs aren't revealed until late in the series, and some non-HiMEs play significant roles as well. Phony Saint 15:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

This is my stab at it. I'm trying to find the My-HiME logo to put on the side. Phony Saint 04:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I created a new template. View under Template:My-HiME. If anyone wants to change anything on it, please do it there.Diabound00 18:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Character page revisions, other comments

 * 1) I've been working on the Mai Tokiha, Mikoto Minagi, and Natsuki Kuga articles. I'd like to standardize all character articles to having this set of sections:
 * 2) *Common characteristics
 * 3) *My-HiME anime
 * 4) **Actions
 * 5) **Powers
 * 6) *My-HiME manga
 * 7) *My-Otome anime
 * 8) *My-Otome manga
 * 9) *Name origins
 * 10) I see many attempts to detail every action a character does, which violates WP:WAF. I also occasionally see conjectures about characters and their relationships, which falls under WP:NOR. This is just a reminder that both should be avoided.
 * 11) There seems to be confusion over the proper spelling of some words, such as Fuuka or Yuuichi. The English dub (its official website) spells them "Fuka" and "Yuichi" respectively. However, the English manga spells them "Fuuka" and "Yuuichi". For now I've just used the spelling the corresponding series uses, but I'd like to see what consensus or guidelines there are on it. Phony Saint 16:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:WAF is far too hysterical about the danger of FU in this case. These articles come nowhere near the point where they might need to be trimmed. --Gwern (contribs) 17:04 16 April 2007 (GMT)
 * I think so too. I think there might be some unnecessary trimming going on with certain articles, and as of present the Natsuki article doesn't really give a clear picture of the last battle between Shizuru and Natsuki, and makes it sound like they killed each other when it was really a reconciliation. Just a few notes. Katsuhagi 17:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The revision of the Natsuki article before I touched it barely even mentions Shizuru or even what Natsuki actually does in the anime. (link) A lot of what I've done in the individual character articles was adding information which can be traced back to the series, as opposed to vague generalized statements which can't be sourced or don't have a basis in the series.
 * What I was referring to with WP:WAF were the lists of characters, where there were huge paragraphs even though half the characters already have their own character pages, and the lists of episodes, where some episode summaries attempt to explain everything in the episode.
 * My main problem with specific character pages is that undue weight is given to specific episodes rather than an overall look at the characters, such as Yukino Kikukawa, where all of Yukino's actions in My-Otome revolve around the OVA, or Mashiro Blan de Windbloom, which is just one large mess. Phony Saint 20:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Unnecessary categories
Looking at Category:My-HiME and Category:My-Otome, there is no real reason why we need both. The majority of articles are for characters, with only a few characters being unique to My-Otome. Anyone against moving all of them to Category:My-HiME Project and putting the two up for deletion? Phony Saint 16:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Because it reflects the actual things? What downside is there for having the categories be correct and fine-grained? There isn't any - deleted things still take up space and 'Wikipedia is not paper'. --Gwern (contribs) 17:05 30 April 2007 (GMT)
 * I have to agree with Gwern, I personally think there's more order to them separated, and things like the episode lists and terminology I don't see working well together in one big one. Katsuhagi 19:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Hime Strength?!
Just a question and theory about HiME powers perhaps something worth writing or it might be trivial but I'm discussing it anyway. Might not even be true but hey why not. I did some reviewing of the anime and noticed a few things about the HiMEs and their Childs.

All Childs appear at least initially born equal but are seperated by the strength and awareness of the HiMEs' love for their precious people and their individual abilities (all Child can fly though as seen in the last ep but only a Duran learns to do both before it). Kiyohime is not gigantic it only gets bigger because of Shizuru's obsessive love for Natsuki. If you watch the last episode when the HiMEs attack the star you'll notice its much smaller about the same size category as the other Children (Shizuru rides on its behind not one of its heads) along with a shrunk Duran after the two have calmed down (unless their revival is to blame). Everybody knows how Duran got Kagatsuchi big when Natsuki realized she loved Shizuru. Me thinks that Kagatsuchi was also small but held leftover power from when Mashiro used him hence the need for the Sword of Sealing in his head.

All Elements and HiME are equals but are seperated by their inherent skills, strengths, intelligence and their affection for their respective loved ones which affects the element's power (this would fit in with the purpose of the carnival). Midori for instance has an element almost identical to Shizuru's but Shizuru's is much stronger able to cut up Children, even Mikoto's sword is able to cut up things real good and it gets stronger when her love increases. I figure there must be three categories of HiME in respect to their elements: melee, range and accessory.

Melee basically means a melee element: Shizuru, Midori, Fumi, Nao, Akira, Akane and Mikoto. Range includes: Natsuki, Yukariko and Mai and Accessory includes: Shiho, Yukino and perhaps Mai (still not too sure about it). Melee ones will obviously have the highest attack power but obviously come at a disadvantage because of the need to get up close, by the look of it any HiME (except maybe Akane who is pretty weak anyway) with a melee weapon demonstrates fairly obvious superhuman strength and speed, me thinks that it's a means to offset the disadvantage of having to get up close and personel and use one's own strength instead of just commanding a blast of energy. Accessory HiME basically have special powers they could use tactically; Shiho can astral project meaning she can summon her Child anywhere and any time, very sneaky. Yukino instead of having a weapon is basically clairvoyant. Mai I think has accessory powers because she can fly and erect forceshields, she's also technically ranged because she can shoots jets of fire (since she has two advantages here I'm thinking it might be leftover Mashiro power or maybe that she can't use her flames offensively very much, she only uses it once in the whole series). Natsuki and Yukariko are Ranged HiME who have the obvious advantage of being able to stay out of harms way while they attack. Since Range and Accessory have their respective advantages it explains why these HiME are never shown with superhuman strength or speed. All the same I still think its a bit vague since Natsuki seems to have considerable strength and speed anyway, she can keep up with Shizuru easily, jump around like a rat on speed and take down several armored Searrs soldiers with light attacks, she even jumps out of a helicopter and lands unscatched but her fates are humanly possible just at the far end of things (Olympic level). Deus-Helios 27 May, 2007 (UTC)


 * Speculation on HiME strength doesn't belong in the article. Phony Saint 14:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I was asking if anyone else came to similar conclusions and if it is worth noting a few specificities about Children and HiME powers from what is seen in the anime to go into the terminology section? I want o bounce it off someone else first to see if it's correct and worth putting in. Oh I made a mistake, St. Vres floats and Gakutenou flies early on as well. BTW Phony Saint are also Phony a Mai Hime fanfic writer? Deus-Helios 11.12 am 28 May, 2007 (UTC)


 * If it's just a theory as you said, then it's not worth putting in even if others agree. See No original research. Phony Saint 04:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Already read it, the trouble is I'm not sure if its a theory or a fact because there is proof to support it I'm just really not sure how I should I put it or if I should bother (I do misread, misobserve or get misinformed about things). The Child thing about equality in size is proven, if you watch Ep. 26 you'll see that Kiyohime got smaller but is it worth mentioning? Take Mikoto for instance she has superhuman strength that is observed and confirmed but is it a HiME power or just an anime quirk, is Natsuki just a really good fighter or is a HiME power?

P.S. I did notice that the terminology page doesn't have a "need for expansion or clean-up" tag on it.Deus-Helios 12.39 pm 28 May, 2007 (UTC)


 * Making guesses like that is explicitly disallowed under WP:NOR. It's not our job to draw the lines, so to speak; we should only be reporting what's explicitly stated in the series and not creating theories on how strong the HiMEs are. If you enjoy coming up with theories, you should go to a forum like AnimeSuki.
 * I don't see why the terminology page needs expansion or cleanup; perhaps you could elaborate. Phony Saint 04:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright thanks for clarifying things with me, it's just that some details are based on what is seen such as the actions of the characters while others need to have an official text outlining such as the details in a guidebook to merit. Remember that character actions as put in their biographies are summarised plot referenced to an episode or chapter. But it's hard for to me find the line between them especially since the My Hime pages have so much attention placed upon them hence why I discussing this here.
 * Oh I just feel like adding some more details because it seems a little small, it's stated that the HiMEs can materialize but it is obvious that some can do other things but there seems to be a greater leaning towards briefness going around so I'll follow the crowd. Take this line "In the anime, Childs can be summoned anytime after a HiME has accepted her Child. They are linked to a HiME's most important person; when the Child dies, the HiME's most important person also dies, and the HiME loses her powers." I feel like adding: "The strength of a child is relative to the strength of the emotional bond between the HiME and her most precious person." Among other details.

HiME plural
What is the correct plural for HiME - HiME or HiMEs? - Sikon 16:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically in Japanese it would just be the HiME, since they don't have plurals in the sense that English does. Referring to the group of all 12 of them in Japanese would be something like HiME-tachi, but I don't think we have to worry about that in this context, so I would just go with HiME in the plural. Katsuhagi 16:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What does the English dub use? - Sikon 17:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * On the back of the DVD cover it's HiME plural. Katsuhagi 17:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Destiny
--202.7.150.150 11:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)Is Destiny a sequel or AU? The page calls it a sequel.
 * From what I heard, it takes place in an alternate universe where the HiME never existed, but Fuka Academy and its students did. And it takes place shortly after the time period in which the Mai-HiME events took place in its own universe. - Sikon 11:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make it an alternate universe then and not a sequel because whoever wrote the My-Hime Destiny page calls a sequel.
 * Be bold and correct it. - Sikon 02:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Mai Hime The Movie?
There's a movie trailer of Mai Hime The Movie w/c I'd saw it before where Arika Yumemiya (the main character of Mai Otome) was a villain there and this movie should conclude to the story of Mai Hime series. And rumored said that the movie didn't released as scheduled last year, I wonder what really happened? Anyone knows?
 * It was a joke. Get it? A joke. As if "20006" (with three 0's) wasn't a dead giveaway. - Sikon 20:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

= Nano Machines? =

Why there is no mention about it, and the y cromossome intolerance? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.56.112.44 (talk) 00:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Wrong series. You're thinking My-Otome. Katsuhagi 00:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

= Least useful 'Plot Summary' Ever =

The plot summary is 'Mai Tokiha transfers to Fuka Academy and learns that she along with several other girls at the school are HiMEs. ' There is no definition of what a 'HiME' is, or what that means for the main character. I have no clue, or I'd put something up. Anyone have an idea? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.4.45 (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

= Merging of My-HiMe(manga) and My-HiMe EXA =

Someone tagged the My-HiMe EXA page and suggested that we should merge it with the My-HiMe(manga) page, so should we merge them together? Since the My-HiMe EXA page is kinda short and it's related to the My-HiMe (manga). --Vaktug (talk) 01:49, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Its a different manga, but I just redirected it back to the My-HiME#Related_media section. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 22:36, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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