Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 3

Commentary on the storyline for The Black Parade
All of this needs to be deleted. It is OR, unsourced and conflicts with commentary in sourced media (for example, NME says that the Patient dies during Dead!). Until you can source it, it does not belong on Wikipedia. Period. --Jamdav86 18:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes but it cites sources in the songs and its all really acurate too. -B3|\|

There are no sources and they are inaccurate. --Jamdav86 14:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Alt. Metal?
Is MCR Alternative Metal? Famous last words sounds similar to Animal I Have Become by Three Days Grace. I think they might have a few other songs that may be alt. metal. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 01:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Find a source and then you can add it. --Jamdav86 17:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, add it in the subgenre section however, since the only main genre we have now is Alternative rock.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I can't find a source. How many songs would fit under this genre? íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 02:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Three Days Grace are not alternative metal. My Chemical Romance are not alternative metal, and I do not believe anyone has ever described them as such. --Switch 23:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Well I have seen some songs on Metal compilation Cd's, and I read an article today which described them as 'metal tinged'. It was in a magazine though... Kokiri kid 07:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * They do have a metal influence, but so do The Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam and other alternative rock bands that aren't alternative metal. I don't think CD compilations count as sources, unless Hilary Duff suddenly became punk while I wasn't looking... --Switch 08:12, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahah. Touché ;) Kokiri kid 08:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

hmmm, i don't think they're alt-metal. i believe that three days grace are alt metal since altmetal doesn't necessarily mean metal, more of just alt-hard rock. but then again, people consider sum 41 alt-metal, so idk, you could call them that if you want, but i don't agree.Itachi1452 23:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Add them as Alt. Metal, and i will slit my wrists. Also, 3 Days grace is not Alt. metal. 65.147.174.84 03:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

yes, may you slit your wrists in peace. i agree that MCR is not alt metal in anyway. but 3 days grace is alt metal, i'm not the only one who says that. critics say that, plus, i know what alt metal is. if you were to go into my room, you'd see towers of cd's with bands like breaking benjamin, tool, chevelle, cold, 10 years, a perfect circle, evans blue, eighteen visions, soad... Itachi1452 22:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Bottled
I think the fact that anyone would disrespect the band that much, doesn't know to much about respect. If they didn't want to listen to MCR play they should've just went somewhere else. They should be ashamed of theirselves for doing that to a band that comes to play a show just for them and in return they get bacon and stuff thrown on them. I think whoever was there and disrespected MCR should all just go to hell. This just pissed me off so much to hear about something like that happening to MCR. - MyChemical 8:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Please, Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. It is not a discussion forums. I am glad you are enthusiastic about the band, however, Wikipedia is not the place to discuss this as we must try and keep a neutral point of view. Thank you.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

My Chemical Romance are not Alternative Metal. Perfect Circle and Tool are good examples of Alternative metal. My Chemical Romance are emo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Craig231 (talk • contribs) 10:02, 14 November 2006.

My Chemical Romance are not emo.

They're not pop rock either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.26.250 (talk • contribs) 03:38, 31 January 2007

This sort of music is usually labeled Scream Emo Crap Rock. If Sunny Day Real Estate is labeled emo, then it is lame to give a shitty band like MCR the same genre title. It is refreshing that someone had the guts to throw a bottle at these no talent ass clowns.


 * Perhaps it should be stated that the bottling etc was at the start, as they immediately followed Slayer, and as audience changed, the bottling ceased.

Fanfiction
I could have sworn there was a topic already about this, but I went through the archive and couldn't find it. Is the "Fanfiction" information necessary? I don't think it is. I'm wondering what the argument is on keeping it. Perhaps it could be limited to a link to the fanfiction page stating that there is fanfiction written about them and not all the fans approve. I think that states it pretty well if it must be mentioned.--Jude 15:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The reason that I always kept and reverted removal was because it is sourced criticism which we had a lot of problem getting a little while ago. Also, it does show how some of MCR's fans can be obsessed and might not like just the music, which could also be an arguement to the "sell-out" thing. I did try and clean it up earlier because there was a lot more specifics, but I feel if we don't add specific stories or something then it should be ok. However, I do see how it could be considered for deletion, so I think we should maybe come to some agreement as to if we should keep it or not since it has been contested in the past.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 23:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

wow.
oaky i recentley herd that my chem was going to do an anamitaed musical for the black parade album. i have no idea where to put it cauz this page repeats itself way to much so i leave it to you folks to do.Oh yeah..havent you people ever herd of archiveing your discussion page?Razor romance 14:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We need a source if we are going to add it. I will archive the page again right now since the genre thing is sort of over now that we decided to do it the sourced way.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 18:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

An brief interview with G. Way in NME indicatd that he would like to put the Black Parade into another medium. Musicals and animated films were discussed, but nothing concrete was confirmed. --Jamdav86 17:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Under Pressure
"In recent months, however, the two lead singers of both bands seem to have had a fallout due to disagreements over the addition of "Under Pressure" to In Love and Death. " Is it still recent months though? It's been a while in my opinion, could we change it to something more appropriate? Kokiri kid 07:51, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

"Disputed genres" section
I went ahead and changed the infobox and created a Genre disputes and influences section linking from it. Please do some research and add more subgenres the band has been labelled/have labelled themselves or more influences the band has cited, as well as adding some citations to the subgenres currently there. Thanks. --Switch 05:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Great! It may look crappy at the moment, but this is the sort of thing that should grow. Citations for every genre please, and multiple citations are welcomed. --Jamdav86 17:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've quickly added a couple of citations. However, they've apparently made over their site for the new album, removing the part of the site in which they described themselves as "rock" and "violent, dangerous pop", and I can't find a mirror anywhere. There are several other pages that describe the band using that phrase, but most are wiki mirrors, and none of the others point out that the band themselves said it. So I don't know how to add a citation for that now. --Switch 09:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Moving this to the current page, because this section still needs a lot of work. --Switch 08:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Moved from page
Are these still needed? --Jamdav86 12:44, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) "Teen Titans" — Rolling Stone (2005-07-14)
 * 2) Rolling Stone Counter Reference
 * 3) Billboard Chart Positions
 * Only if you can find what info in the article came from each of these. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 19:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

That's the point, the links didn't work while they were on the page. --Jamdav86 19:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * How about a few months ago. I remember converting most of those to refs over the summer and couldn't fix those, so I left them because I thought maybe they got accidentally deleted. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 01:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Really crazy genre solution
Okay, this is really stupid, but I feel I just need to get it out, here's my idea on how to solve this genre dispute. So, a lot of people have thought that MCR are basically a separate genre of music or whatever, so maybe that can become official. All someone needs to do is, if anyone knows MCR or can contact them, maybe through myspace or whatever, then they need to tell MCR to say on their myspace or somewhere that would be considered official that they are whatever genre name someone thinks up. I was thinking of "chemical rock". Sounds cool, so yea. Then we can have a source of the genre and that would basically be their genre and we could also make an article for whatever genre they decide to call themselves. Weird, I know, but it's not any weirder than I am. :) íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 02:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't work out. Simply because their sound isn't all that original or varied(I'm not trying to insult them, just saying they really experiment much with non-rock genres) and would be able to be described simply. If it weren't for so many magazines calling them such terms as "emo" and "goth". Thus causing such misconceptions. And having fans who are convinced they are the most original and progressive band ever, so much that they are beyond genre classification, doesn't help either. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.173.25.110 (talk) 08:55, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Well in some magazines I've read recently, like Alternative Press, Guitar World, and one other one I forget the name of, they really don't care what they are considered by the scene. So, people can just have their personal opinions on what they think the band is considered. --MyChemical 19:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The only problem with this is that MCR can't really decide what genre they are. If someone created this new genre they would have to be a well respected and reliable source. Our main sources for the genre at the moment are basically reviews. Basically maybe a journalist or some musical historian I guess. I'm not sure what would be considered reliable for creating a new genre. However, if a new genre is needed I think there needs to be more bands to apply to that genre before it is made "official". I am not saying that your idea is bad or something, I just am saying that it doesn't I guess work. We can't just make something up and MCR can't make it up either. I think the best way is to keep going with what we have now, list Alternative rock as the main and then have a list for all disputed subgenres with sources. I mean I guess if you can find a reliable source with some new genre for them you can list them, but it sort of looks like you want to create a new genre which doesn't quite work because of original research.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:26, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, are there any more bands really similar to MCR? íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 02:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * There are similar bands, but if MCR are unique enough to belong to their own, new genre, then there probably aren't any bands similar enough to also belong to that genre, as they would have to sound almost exactly the same. And no two bands are identical.
 * There have been other genre-bending bands in the past, but we aren't allowed to create (or arrange the creation of) neologisms. In fact, bands should only be referred to using already established genres, so the new term would have to be learly defined (more than just "What My Chemical Romance play") and used in several musi journals before it would be of any use. We're meant to be iforming people what the band sound like; if all that is essentially said is "They play MCROCK" (for example) and MCROCK is defined as "What MCR plays", then we aren't giving any information. --Switch 12:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

When it comes to genre disputes, my philosophy is to list the overarching genre that everyone can agree on. We can all agree My Chemical Romance is a "rock" band, right? Then simply list "rock" in the infobox. The particular subgenres that may or may no apply are of lesser importance in the greater picture. "Rock" or "alternative rock" has instant recognition value for people who may not know much about music. Remember, the goal is not necessarily to be specific, but to give the casual reader context for a clear understanding. WesleyDodds 22:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Why do people even care about what genre MCR is considered? It should be simple, either you like their music or not. It shouldn't matter what genre they are because, they doesn't help with anything. --MyChemical 03:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Because people want to know what they sound like. A band's genre categorization should have nothing to do with whether or not people like them. WesleyDodds 03:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Although it still does. Also, the genre is used for better categorization and organization of bands. It's just some people feel strongly about genres so they don't want certain bands they don't like in their genre. Or people feel strongly about a band and don't want a band in a certain genre because it makes them uncool or whatever. I feel however, that our current way that we have is the best we are going to get. We have all subgenres sourced and a main genre everyone can agree with.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 05:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, Orfen, except that I would say "supposed genres", as it's clear no-one can agree that they belong to any of those. -  S w i t c h t 05:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The "genre" argument has been tedious enough without now proclaiming MCR have invented some new kind of genre! Christ, they're good, but to say they've come up with a brand new sound is pushing it just a bit. Also, the suggestion that we ask MCR what genre they want on the listing is possibly just as insane - it's an encyclopedia not a press release! Why don't we ask Saddam Hussein how he wants to be described on his entry!?

As mentioned above, and several times previous, they are clearly a "Rock" band, and that is more than sufficent. ??:??, ?? November 2006 (UTC)

I think they're just a huge mix of genres, such as post-hardcore, punk rock, alternative rock and emo. MCR definitely can't be categorized as just one genre. 15:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

i've heard them called chemical rock. no clue where, and i think someone made it up. but if we could make up a genre, why not that? Emopunk 22:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That's if we could. But we'd have to go to great lengths to make it an actual genre. It's possible, but first thing, you'd have to know MCR personally enough for them to listen to your opinions. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 22:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

at this point, nothing really seems like a good answer for the genre problem.Dizzydark 01:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I would have to say that MCR is pop-punk for the most part. Their sound gets aggressive, but they stay in that poppy range--their sound is similar to that of Sum 41's.  I know not going to make a difference, but I just needed to address that.


 * Describing them as punk in any way is rather offensive. This band are not the successors of The Clash or The Sex Pistols in any way, shape or form. Kellster71 17:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Handdimensixq 16:00, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

their stuff isnt really like anything else, is it? Dizzydark 02:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * basically. icelandic hur ric ane #12 (talk) 02:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know if you can necessarily say that. You can compare a lot of it to their influences, and, there are a lot of similarities that you can draw with a lot of stuff off of The Black Parade. Although they do have a lot of different stuff, there is still similarities to things and that is how their genre is decided.    Orfen     User Talk |  Contribs 05:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

yea, thats totally true... but their not completely like ant of their influences, even if you can hear their influences clearly in their music. Dizzydark 21:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No band with any ambition sounds exactly like any other band (excluding tribute bands, which MCR has). That doesn't mean they vreated their own damn genre. Plus, they sound a lot like The Used and a couple other bands in the same sort of scene anyway. ~  Swi tch t 09:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

You guys have to be joking. My Chemical Romance sounds exactly like fallout boy, taking back sunday, my american heart, panic at the disco, rise against, hoobastank, glassjaw, something corporate and every other screamo generic emo rock band I can think of..it's the same lame formula, same stupid haircuts, same exact bad vocals. Saves the day already coined the crap as emo and now there are 500 other bands who sound exactly the same and My Chemical Romance is number 432. If you like this band, you are happy because there are now millions of songs that all fit in the same catergory. I don't know what is worse Limp Biscut Rap Rock or this generic screamo, but they both terribly suck.

Mikey
Okay, I only edited it on the actual Mikey Way page, but let it be known here. Mikey DID NOT learn bass in order to be in MCR. If you've seen Life on the Murder Scene then you should note that Mikey said "Since a young age I [he] wanted to make music that effected peoples lives". It is also stated that Mikey was in several bands before MCR, even one with Gerard, and was playing bass.

So can we bear this in mind? In the booklet of bullets gerard thanks mikey for becoming a bass player.


 * I also thought about this as well when I read it, however there was a source so I did not change it. I remember Gerard saying something on Life on the Murder Scene saying that they had always been in bands together with Mikey on bass.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 23:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I, too, was under the impression that Mikey had played bass before, but in a recent edition of Kerrang! Geoff Rickly says that Mikey learned bass to be in the band. I'm pretty sure we were mislead originally.--Jude 16:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The Used
Have MCR acknowledged that the occurrence of 'Used' in their music video is a nod to the band of the same name, rather than mere coincidence? Since it is a pretty common word, I think it should be noted that its appearing in the video is probably just coincidental. In fact, I have to question whether it has any real significance at all and whether it shouldn't just be removed altogether. --Owain loft 20:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Gerard and Berts fall out
Does anyone know anything else about the fallout? I've heard several reasons. One was because supposedly My Chemical Romance used The Used to get famous and once My Chem did become famous it got to there head. Then I've also heard that it is because Gerard wanted to stop drinking and such and it pissed Bert off. Does anyone know ANYTHING about it please e-mail me. gerard_way3057@yahoo.com or x_paper_fantasiesx@hotmail.com

Well if you had of read the article it states that their fallout was due to the addition of "Under Pressure" to the Used CD... Kokiri kid 00:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It has also been said it was a joke or Bert got mad because Gerard didn't want to go further in a relationship even though it has been stated that Gerard and Bert were never THAT close. But yes, I've also heard it was because of My Chemical Romance's fame. But it does not really matter anymore and no one truly knows because My Chemical Romance has not said anything and The Used haven't said anything either. I believe in a quote by Gerard said that they had a falling out but they don't want to talk about it because they don't like to say stuff about people or something to that effect. Anyways, no one truly does know but we can speculate it is the inclusion of "Under Pressure" on The Used CD since the song was meant to be a song for charity.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 18:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Fan Fiction
Does this section need to be here? It's not as if fan fiction only applies to MCR. I don't see that it adds any necessary info for an encyclopedia entry.


 * Please see discussion above.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 02:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah right, my bad! Still, it was not resolved. I don't think it has any relevence here - saying that there is fan fiction about the band is probably a given, lots of other bands have it. We don't have a section about how people have written MCr, or have made websites about MCR or have drawings of MCR, etc, etc.--Mike Infinitum 12:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This is true. I don't really have a stance on it because I can see it both ways, but I think we should have a community consensus before removing it. I have been seeing a lot of people saying remove, but we've never truly found out if people want it in or not.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Relationship with The Used section
This section probably needs a cleanup, however, I would like to ask a few things for sources because if they are not sourced I will remove them since they contradict themselves or seem like nonsense. First thing is how does the song "Disenchanted" have anything to do with The Used or former drummer Matt Pelissier? As far as I am aware the song is about the concept The Patient and I am not able to draw any parallels to anything in real life in this song. I do not see how the song could be about their former drummer or The Used, a source please if we are to keep this. Next the part where it talks about references in each of their work and states the "I'm Not Okay (I Promise)" video and how it says "used" in it contradicts itself saying that it might have nothing to do with the band. Also we need a source for the part about The Used saying "chemical romance" and that it has to do with My Chemical Romance. I know it might not be likely but it could be a coincidence. If we can't find sources for this as well then I will also delete it. Those are just some quick concerns that come to mind when I look at that section.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It reads more like a gossip column! I'd do away with the whole thing to be honest, but if people think that The Used are such an important peice of MCR's history then keep it in, but do away with the unsourced stuff.--Mike Infinitum 00:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * As it has been a couple weeks since I first posted my concerns and no one seems to care for it to be kept, I deleted some of the unsourced stuff in the section. It is an important part of MCR's history but the section was getting out of hand. Please if you would like to readd the stuff please provide citations. Thanks!   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 03:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

In the recent issue of AP magazine Bert McCrackin was asked about his relationship with Gerard. Bert tried to dodge the question and when asked again about Gerard he said they were now friends. The band's drummer left the used and Gerard heard they were looking for a drummer and called Bert up asking him if he could play for the band. The feud has ended between mcr and the used.

Image Section
it says their music is based on horro filmas and the have bloody artworw but the misfits also has this characteristics in their music does that make them EMO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.56.165.186 (talk • contribs)


 * Don't create a new section for something that's already been addressed, please.--Jude 09:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

notable instruments?
excuse me, but most people i know who have listened to my chemical romance agree that the vocals are the best part. i didnt know mcr was famous for bass guitar?!- xanythingxbutxthatxonex 08:11, 2 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.41.85.28 (talk • contribs).


 * Erm... what?--Mike Infinitum 10:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

someone added a section on notable instruments and i was questioning their bass guitar notability. -xanythingxbutxthatxonex


 * Please check the history, at this it was reverted: . Apparently it was incorrectly added and was removed.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 01:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The field was intended for solo artists only. This wasn't said in the table code, and I only found out weeks later when I happened across thetemplate's actual page. Apologies for the inconvenience. --Jamdav86 20:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

The thing I like best about the vocals is that they are similar to all my favorite bands, Taking Back sunday, AFI, Panic at the Disco, Rise against, Box Car Racer, etc. It would be sweet if the only thing the radio would play is that same type of undistinguishable vocal. I love screamo singing. It rules. As long as the music changes, the singing and the guitar tones can remain the same and I'll be happy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Stevenson (talk • contribs) 23:37, 16 February 2007

Picture
what happened to the picture? Dizzydark 01:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Please check the history, copyright violation.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 01:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)



hows this one? Blkeddie! 13:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Probably not. It's already been marked for deletion and you can't be sure if it's from Limewire.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, what if you put the cover of AP with MCR on it in the article. Aren't magazine covers allowed? I know where to get a picture of it online. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 13:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * ... íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 12:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Citation Needed
I've cited most of the, and deleted the ones that I couldn't find a source for. - DavyJonesGSB 18:36, December 9, 2006 (UTC)
 * Did you delete, or the text it was attached to? --Jamdav86 20:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I added references to some of the, but I couldn't find a source for I deleted. Most of it wasn't needed and probably not true. DavyJonesGSB
 * Good. Cheers. --Jamdav86 18:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Warped Tour Bootleg Series
Is the Warped Tour Bootleg Series considered an album? – Zntrip 19:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't think so. It isn't a studio album and the album isn't really anywhere on the internet.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 21:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

So? Life on the Murder Scene isn't a studio album either. – Zntrip 06:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * But that is different. This is not an album, is a live compilation. It is too short to be an album.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 18:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

A few mistakes throughout this article
Just reading over the posted article, and there are a few spelling and grammatical mistakes throughout. Also some words are running together without spaces between them. The most obvious error is the spelling of 'January'. Thought I'd add this small bit of info - sorry to be a pain. - MS


 * No, your not being a pain. Noting that just makes the article better. The only thing that I hoped was that you could fix the typos yourself, but I guess I'll have to go through the article after school. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 13:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * At the time, it was locked. Thanks though! - MS
 * Oh, I forgot that. You should make account anyway. It be much more convenient. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 22:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

For the article
Blabbermouth news post mentions MCR winning the "Best band on the planet" award at the 13th Kerrang! Awards. LuciferMorgan 23:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Music Choice awarded MCR with the title of "Artist Of the Month" (for December). I don't have any visual proof at the moment, but for those of you who have Comcast, check out Comcast on Demand (ch. 199), go to "Music", and go to the very bottom. You should see it there. // Sasuke  -kun  27  21:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Errors
Hi, the information about the injuries of Gerard and Bob filming the "WTTBP" video are wrong, wrong, wrong. First of all, they were injured shooting "Famous Last Words." Gerard was tackled by Frankie, knocked down, and the ligaments were torn in his ankle. Bob, at the back of the set, was closest to the wall of flame. He sustained a third degree burn to the leg. Due to his lack of caring for this injury, it later developed into a staph infection. I have seen/heard this information in numerous interviews available on youtube, etc. where it is the actual band telling this information. Please fix it or remove it. True fans of the band do not like to read information that they know is incorrect. Thanks :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frizzles (talk • contribs) 04:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

Well fix it and cite it then!--Mike Infinitum 21:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Emo Genre
Why is My Chemical Romance classified under "disputed subgenre"? MCR has been an example of emo rock for as long as I can remember. Litanss 12:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Christ. Here we go again.--Mike Infinitum 13:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Must have a short memory. -  Swi tch t 15:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Please see Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 2 for more information on the way the genres are currently classified. For further reference you may check Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 1, however the decision was reached in the second archive.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 23:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Splitting article
I feel the recent and future plans section has gotten too large compared to the other sections and was wondering everyones thought was on the manner. I was thinking of splitting the article into more sections however I wanted to see what everyone else thought. Maybe spilt it into Early Career, Major Career, Life on the Murder Scene (include everything for the release and pre-The Black Parade), and then The Black Parade section. Just a thought, however I feel that perhaps the article should be organized a bit better since it is a lot of information, or maybe remove some of it.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 00:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the article has gotten messy. I think it needs to be overhauled. It would probably be best to structure it like the articles on The Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana (band), Rage Against the Machine or similar - those have all had fairly recent overhauls, and are looking quite spiffy.
 * Obviously a currently-active band needs to be treated differently, but there are rarely good artiles on currently active bands. Nowhere better to start than one of the biggest bands in the world, eh? -  Swi tch t 02:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, well I split it up. Tried to go off of The Smashing Pumpkins one. I guess sort of like the Nirvana one too. But I started the Life on the Murder Scene section when it was released and started The Black Parade section when they first played some new songs live (the same day they confirmed the album name). If anyone can think of something better please change it, however it needed to be done.   Orfen    User Talk | Contribs 03:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks much better now. However, I'd suggest that the paragraphs in Life On The Murder Scene that being with "On August 3, 2006, the band finished shooting the videos for their first two singles..." should be moved down to the Black Parade (2006) section, it just seems more relevent there. That would leave Life On.... quite short, but could be amalgamated with the previous section. Furthermore I suggest renaning that Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge, just to be consistent with the rest of the biography divided by album titles. --Mike Infinitum 12:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

OK changed it as I suggested above, but this leaves the Black Parade quite long. I would sugegst that a lot be removed from the album launch and gig, strip it down to basics. It seems to place so much emphasis on this occasion as if it were the pivitol moment in the bands career, whereas it was just a high profile gig, of which they have had many that haven't been mentioned. --Mike Infinitum 22:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I cut some information. Probably could use a little bit more cutting but I think it's better at least.    Orfen     User Talk |  Contribs 23:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Disenchated
Disenchanted has not been confirmed as the third single as far as I know, so until someone can put a source, Disenchanted is not the third single. WIKI-GUY-16 19 December, 2006 (UTC)

MTV.com is reporting that Disenchanted and I Dont Love You are schedualed for a single release on 4/2/07[Just some kid who wants to help]11:57 pm. 2/23/07

The Black Parade
When have they ever been referred to as the Black Parade? I know that before the album came out some people speculated that they might have changed their name, but obviously those rumors turned out to be false. I have taken it off the list of aliases, but if anyone has a valid reason to think otherwise feel free to change back. --LadyJane 21:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It is an alias because it is their alter ego which they have stated previously. The Black Parade is their alter ego.    Orfen     User Talk |  Contribs 03:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Here is proof since it was reverted:, , . There are plenty more too, search "The Black Parade alter ego" on Google.    Orfen     User Talk |  Contribs 03:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

You might as well put a ref by it, and the nicknames too, to stop further confusion. --Jamdav86 11:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, done. I used the VH1 link. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000>  <font color=#ff0000> Orfen    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Injuries during the filming of Famous Last Words
Gerard sustained the torn ligaments, it was bob who was burned and developed a staph infection as a result. They say as much in their inteview on The List page on myspace.com Rob Tonge 5 January, 2007 (UTC)

Lack of Respect?
I think the "Lack of Respect" section should be removed, and I'm going to do so. The title seems pretty far from NPOV, and I don't see how it relates, even if it did happen and it has a source. Definitely doesn't need a title like that if it stays. All the source says is that the woman isn't happy with MCR because of their "lack of support" when she was raped. There is nothing about respect, no huge crowd all aflutter over MCR's bad manners. So. I'm going to remove it for now. 4.91.110.118 02:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC) 70.179.69.43 21:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)I'm not sure why that section is there either... I'm sorry that she got raped, but if we're going to put in everyone's individual opinion of how their encounter with the band was, it's starting to sound like a gossip page. --Alicoutura

Criticism section
Ok, I think this section needs a bit of work done to it. There are a lot of sections and it's really long. Yes, it's mostly sourced but some can be taken out. I don't know, I think that maybe removing some of the nonsense is maybe the first step we can take to help make this a Good Article. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000>  <font color=#ff0000> Orfen    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 17:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

known as "The Black Parade"?
Really? Are they? The source article for this doesn't seem to justify that little fact, in my humble opinion. 210.55.130.65 00:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * See above. // Poetic  Decay  01:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

When they first played some of their new songs in August 06 they introduced themselves as The Black Parade. Also, if you go to the tour section of their web site, it says "My Chemical Romance and The Black Parade". And Gerard has stated that The Black Parade (band) is the alter ego they created for The Black Parade many times. I think that justifies saying that they are also known as The Black Parade. Mcr616 18:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Found an error, can't edit it.
I found an error with the "Life on the Murder Scene (Summer 2006)" section. Where it talks about Gerard Way and Bob Bryar's injuries, it was, in fact, Bryar who sustained the burn and not Way. That is what caused Bryar's staph infection Squirrlliewrath 20:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I found an error under this section as well; the section talks about the DVD but then starts talking about the filming of "Famous Last Words" and the injuries Way and Bryar sustained. However, they have nothing to do with LotMS, so I was thinking of moving them to the The Black Parade section. However, because of the pictures put up all over the article, I didn't want to move them and ruin everything that was set up. So, if someone else with knowledge of how to fix it and not make it hideous (like I would) wants to fix it, or if someone tells me that if I move it nothing will happen to the pictures, then I will gladly fix it myself. And sorry this is so long, gah. --Yunaresuka 18:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright this has been mentioned before, but seeing as it hasn't been fixed yet, I guess I'll leave my question up, as well as my suggestion.--Yunaresuka 18:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Belleville, not Newark
Why does the infobox list Newark, NJ, as MCR's origin? Gerard and Mike are from Belleville, NJ. 72.43.140.77 20:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure the band is listed as being from Newark on official sites, but I'm not positive. Plus, not everyone from the band is from Belleville.--Yunaresuka 19:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * We need a source then. For either one. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The band's official myspace lists them as being from Newark, but I'm not sure if it can be used as a source, since its Myspace... --Yunaresuka 02:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This is correct, no Myspace sources and if there are then they should be deleted. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 03:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

A new picture each day? What is this, MySpace?
This article should have one picture for My Chemical Romance, not dozens. I visit this page every single day, and I see the band picture changing every single day. This is Wikipedia, not MyStalk. I mean, MySpace. [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 14:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't count dozens, really. Three of the band, one of the fans as the black parade and 3 of the album covers, are the ones I count.  They're all warranted, I believe.--Jude 16:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)`
 * Pictures should always add to articles, never take away. Having pictures of albums and the fans if it contributes is perfectly fine. BUT, if the main picture is constantly changing then it becomes a problem or if any of the pictures do not have proper or any copyright status, then they should be removed and deleted immediately.  Darth  griz 98 02:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, if a free image is found then it should be kept and not changed and any further changes be reverted. Is the current one a free image? <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It is a copyrighted promotional image, yet all the information appears to be correct and it is cited.  Darth griz 98 02:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Then are there any objections to the current image being the main image? All others would then be reverted. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The image in question is Image:Mcr press2.jpg. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it's a little hard to see them, but I think it'll do for now since it's the best one we can come up with.--Jude 08:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, however, I think the criticism section needs work. Looks awkward, and there is a lot of information. I think some needs to be cut down and the pictures there are uneeded. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The main image is tagged as a copyrighted image and the old one is tagged as GNU-no-disclaimers (we don't know if this is truth), so I really don't be any problem. <font color="#FFFFFF"> A r m a n d o .O ( talk 04:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The four pictures in a row in the 'Image' section looks pretty unprofessional, and the current photo for the article being the MCR logo is kinda dodgy. And where it states that this is "the bands look for the first two albumsd" (in a picture caption), they didn't really start using those 'uniforms' untill the Helena video, right? Kokiri kid 08:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * That is correct, I removed the pictures from the criticism section and shortened the section. It was getting long and out of hand and the pictures were uneeded. Since no one seemed to have any objections up above to a change I just went ahead and did it removing some of the unecessary stuff and moving some stuff around. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 03:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded the Image:Mcr press2.jpg in its original form because it was a landscape type photo, but that causes the band members to appear all small (which defeats the purpose of having the picture anyways). So I uploaded a different version of the press promo image that is currenly the one in the info box. I think its a better fit. -Lindsey8417 04:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Calm down with songs
The people who's creating and editing the songs articles must clam down. You can't create all the articles in a day. Because of that, all the song articles (except singles) have been nominated for deletion. <font color="#FFFFFF"> A r m a n d o .O ( talk 05:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I voted on some of them, but then I started to feel like I would lose my cool because of comments like "even the album is nn." I'll vote on them later after I take a breather.  Thanks for pointing this out.--Jude 06:40, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

????
why are you putting disputed genres??? they're EMO!!!!!!! and pop punk.Chriscool334 00:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see the discussion archive for the discussion relating to the genre dispute and how an agreement was reached. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 02:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

EMO? They are punk rock or punk pop, though..<font color="#FFFFFF"> A r m a n d o .O ( talk 20:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * All genres are sourced. If it was in a reliable source then it can be added to the list. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 23:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

My Chemical Romance Piano Tribute added to itunes
Is it possible to work in a reference to the recent MCR piano tribute? 69.211.109.206 00:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but I'm not sure in what section since they didn't necesarily make it. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 00:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

>>> A new picture each day? What is this, MySpace?<<< LOL!!!!!!!!! Yeah, I know I SWEAR I WILL TAKE OUT ANY MORE PHOTOS OF BLONDE GERARD EEVN IF IT MEANS COMING ON HERE EVERY 5 MINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 * If the photograph is not a free image I and any other respectable user will remove it immediately also, removing images of him as blond if they are the only way to represent him at the time that are free can be considered vandalism.  Darth  griz 98 02:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Just a small error
According to AP.net, The Black Parade went platinum last week, needs to be revised.
 * Feel free to if you can cite it :) be bold!  Darth griz 98 04:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think My Chemical Romance should be classified as "emo" on their genre thingy.
 * I think that's why they have "Disputed subgenres" up there; tons of people believe they should be a listed as a bunch of things, so instead of listing a bunch and then having a bunch of people fight over them, its up as disputed. --Yunaresuka 02:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, as an added comment the discussions are in the archives as to why we do it this way, mainly Archive 2. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 03:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Criticism section
I have shrunk down the section and have moved some stuff around for this section. It is getting quite large and out of hand. Yes, the band may be criticized but why not add some throughout the article instead of having it all in one section? Isn't this a NPOV issue as well? If shrinking the section down is not the answer, then perhaps another solution can be discussed? I feel there is an issue when the criticism section has 4 sections and the main article is only 4 as well. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 22:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with your edit. It was fine before, and no one except you had a problem with this. Look at other bands pages, it is common to have these types of sections, the green day page come to mind as one. I'll get into this more tomorrow. Keep in mind this is one of the most criticsized groups in music today, so the size of the section may be appropriate.Hoponpop69 06:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I know, but the Green Day page isn't broken up into sections. I think the section should be edited, I'm not sure if the whole "Lack of Support" section should be in there and I think the "Bottled" section could be added to the main article. I'm not saying to delete all the criticism however it is getting quite long and it is starting to get unsourced. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 20:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

New Article
I found this by accident and as a first timer into the MCR section I'll pass this along. Blanking on the magazine but pretty sure the article was in the current issue of Spin

LadySatine 08:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)