Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 4

Question
who is that pearson that mikey is marride to and when did they get marride?

He got married to Alicia. Simmons, I think is her last name but I can't be bothered to go check right now. I heard they got married in March, but it just became official yesterday on their site. Gerard wrote a letter telling us of it. And then he said Mikey is now taking time off to start a family and stuff like that. So, he's basically on temporary leave to have a proper honeymoon and all that. We don't know when he's going to be back. 163.120.76.64 19:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)Melissa

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My chemical romance's name has nothing to do with drugs. As my school Timothy Edwards Middle school is not letting my chemicals romance be printed in my schools year book, because they think the name of this band has something to so with drugs, witch it doesn’t. And they are just going by the title of the band; they have not listened to one of their songs, so I think this is bull. And a band should not be not aloud in our schools year book, simply because of a name. They have not done any research on the name. So before they say that the name has any thing to do with drugs. They should see what the name of this band really means.

Erm... the name has everything to do with drugs. It's taken from the Irvine Welsh novel Ecstasy: Three Tales of Chemical Romance. Although I don't agree with such censorship by schools, My Chemical Romance clearly has strong drug connotations.--Mike Infinitum 12:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I think that the current image should stay. Although it is a little unfocused, it's pretty recent. Unless someone has a more recent image of course. They can post it, or give it to me and i will do it.

Idea, the i don't love you video is very recent, so how about using a still from the video, it could be licensed under a tv screen capture, so it shouldnt be delteted although im sure somebody will find something wrong with it. Here is a relativly good shoot Image:IDon'tLoveYouMyChemicalRomance.jpg. Let me know if you think it is a good idea to use it, because the current image doesnt have all the band members in.

question
ummmm... im not entirely sure how a band can be pop and emo at the same time, and id say MCR is neither, but if you must leave it that way, so be it. i dont know too many people who trust this site for music, anyway.


 * Those are subgenres, all subgenres are sourced. If a subgenre has a reliable source then it may be added in the section. Please see Archive 2 as to why it is this way.   Orfen    User Talk |  Contribs 21:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

new member?
is there actually a new member? is there any proof, can i see it? Blkeddie! 02:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I was there. They said he would be touring with them, but he's not a member. I can't remember his name though. icelandic hur ric ane #12 (talk) 03:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

James Dewees is currently touring with them in much the same capacity that he toured with New Found Glory on their Catalyst tour.SwankRock3000 06:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

If this is in reference of MCR's tour in Japan, that guy was a sub for Frank Iero because Frank got sick. Michael Norkus 02:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe it is a reference to their headlining tour and the guy who is playing the piano/ organ.   Orfen    User Talk |  Contribs 03:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

The Black Parade Tour
After the sentences following "February 22nd..." you might want to add in that the show features confetti cannons, pyrotechnics, etc, and that they go straight through TBP and then go off and come back with the Revenge background and no BP uniforms. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.242.77.19 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Nah, I created a separate page for The Black Parade tour. That information can be added to that page, if necessary, if it's added under the "Setlist" section. MJB12 05:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Rumours of "apparent" split-up.
I found this on the internet. It seems that this article has been finding it's way around MySpace, leading a few people to believe that My Chem have broken up.

Of course, you'll probaly be able to tell from the article that it's fake. I was just wondering, do you think this deserves a mention in the article? I mean it's just one article from a unrealible site. But I was thinking that maybe it could be credited in the "Critism" section to show people's distain for the band.

Or, if anybody has any other information about the article, it would be much appriciated. Thank you. :] (Dead-In-Horrorwood 21:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC))


 * No, MCR has not split up. They are currently on their headlining tur with Rise Against. It is just a fake. I believe this circulated around the time that Frank was in the United States due to medical reasons. I don't believe this should be placed in the criticism as this is originated from Myspace which should not be added as sources. And as a rumor this is not criticism but rather a rumor which is different and should not be mentioned as it fuels the fire, see WP:HOAX.   Orfen    User Talk |  Contribs 02:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

On the very bottom of the article i found this, it's on top of the petition part. "Only kidding. Respost this if you think it will give a eye makeup wearing emo kid a heart attack" I only just saw it, probably fooled everyone as it was hard to even see it. it's obvious they havent split up anyway Blkeddie! 10:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Archive 3
I have created the third talk page archive. This page was filling up, decided to make it look a little neater.   Orfen    User Talk |  Contribs 02:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

consider removing the derogatory and slang term "fags" from this article...
in the band's fanbase section. Perhaps could place in parenthesis that this is derogatory... it lessens the credibility of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.135.185.29 (talk) 02:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Somehow I'm even wondering if that term should even be in there, unless somebody has a source saying they are, and I doubt it. It might get the axe.  Darth  griz 98 02:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * My same thoughts, was just looking through the article and noticed it. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 21:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review
I have made a request to peer review this article. I think it needs to be cleaned up removing uneeded information and adding information where appropriate. There is a link near the top of the article where you can add any comments for the article to help bring it to Good Article status. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 21:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

New Video
Aparently Mcr is schedualed to film a new video Saturday,March 17. It will be taking place in LA. Some people suspect that the new video is for Disenchanted or maybe a U.S version of I Dont Love You. Both are possibilities, but im not at all sure. Its possiable that they could pull a video for any of the tracks on TBP. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.85.23.194 (talk) 22:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC). were Disenchanted and teenagers meant to be added to singles in the bottom menu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.100.182.153 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 16 March 2007

Im Not sure, those seem like the two most likely songs to be the new video thought. with the whole mtv.com saying that disenchanted is a single to be released on April 2nd. ohh by the way, i was the topic starter, i just for got to sign in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.23.194 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 16 March 2007

On the MCR official website its says that I dont love you is a UK only video it will not be relased in america The video filmed for that day i think may be teenagers- candy1000 (aimee) 7,4,07

It's Teenagers guys. Deny it all you want for now, but when it is released...you'll see. TeamOverload 13:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually it was I Don't Love You and they have released it. There is info on the Teenagers page that says they have made a video but theres no source. Is this true?

Vandal
Someone messed up the picture and I can't fix it because it's protected. Could someone fix it?Paloma Walker
 * Just did! Thank you very much for reporting it-- J UDE  talk 03:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Disenchanted/Teenagers singles.
Who put those on the singles section. Where is your proof? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lynx Austin (talk • contribs) 07:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Thank you, I didn't have the template on my watch list, but I've reverted the edits now.-- J UDE talk 09:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The band logo
I've saved this band logo in the infobox to my computer and easily converted it to SVG with InkScape. I know that in Wikipedia, SVG images are preferred over PNG images, but I don't know how to upload it properly - and more specifically I'm not sure about a license. Help? [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 14:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If you go here you can upload a new version of the MCRLOGO1 picture. The image name might still be MCRLOGO1.png though so if you want to upload a new on down in the lower left corner there is a link that says "Upload file" which is here and you can upload a new picture. Since the old logo pic and the new one are similar I'd use the same licensing as before. So if you are uploading a new one then just use same liscensing, if you are going to replace the other one you don't need to worry about it and no links need to be changed on any pages it's on. Hope this helps! <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 19:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I did it! And I think there's no mess with licenses too. Thanks for answering! (If I did anything wrong, talk to me.) [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 20:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like you did everything fine. And the image actually looks clearer in my opinion as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but, oh well. Good job. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 21:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

is it true?
i heard that guitarest Frank Iero is sick and has pulled out of the current tour. is that true??

(oh, and also, is the biography noy called "something incredible this way comes" instead of "something incredible comes this way"??) Gingerbrau 12:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I went to a concert about 6 days ago, and Frank was certainly there, and extremely energetic. He wass pulled off of the Japan tour because he was sick. --MCRluvr 06:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

He was absent on the Melbourne (Australia) show as well. Kokiri kid 00:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

he;s fine now i read in kerrang! magazine that he had his wisdom teeth taken out thats why he was missing form part of their world tour

Emo
My Chemical Romance is not emo, it should be removed from the infobox. If you know anything about music, you can not argue that My Chemical Romance fit into the emo genre in the least.


 * Any genre added into the infobox besides alternative rock and Disputed Subgenres should be removed. Please see Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 2 for the consensus on the My Chemical Romance genre. Any sourced genre can be added into the subgenre section however none are to be added into the infobox. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 01:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * How can they be possibly be considered alternative considering their massive mainstream marketing and following? --Neon white 13:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

People call me emo because i like them and other things labelled emo. Its ridicicious. My chemical romance is a good band, even if they are emos or not! --89.243.50.94 22:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I've been looking at the discussion pages of certain bands which can most certainly be considered emo, and are by a lot of people. Often times, the people who dispute a band being emo are fans of the band who in all liklihood are motivated by a need to dissociate one of their favorite bands from this often pejorative label. Fuck labels. If the band is considered emo by a considerable amount of people, then they are emo. Who the hell cares if the label sometimes has negative things associated with it. If "I'm Not Ok (I Promise)" isn't an emo song, then we might as well stop labeling anything emo. - Razorhead 1 April 2007


 * The genre is added but isn't considered a main genre as My Chemical Romance's genre is heavily disputed. Alternative rock can cover a wide majority of genres and by sourcing the rest of the genres we are not creating original research. If this topic is about whether emo should be added into the infobox then no, I do not think it should. If this topic is about whether or not My Chemical Romance is emo then it is up for the reliable sources to decide and not us. It is sourced but as the main genres are heavily disputed it was not added into the infobox. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 00:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Why does every1 call ppl emo if they were black and studs we should stop labeling ppl its just no right, aslo the term 'emo' is only used becase of the clothing nobody bobies cares if the music i really punk-rock!!!

i think most of the problem is that most peole dont know what emo really is.i myslef didnt know what it is until recently. and yes, i used to think that im not ok was THE emo anthem. but its not. o dont want to explain it, but just click here. it should clear some things up. and for the record, no, they are not emo.--Late Leo 21:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

They SO ARE emo, they sing about being different even though they're fans are all exactly the same "the world hates me people" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jay316 (talk • contribs) 12:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

-I've been looking at a number of pages on bands that (despite what fanboys and girls might  say), are generally considered emo. And it seems that bands like MCR have had the 'emo' genre tag changed moreso because fans and members of the band want to distance themselves from a label that is considered by many to be derogatory and widley criticized. Despite this, I still think the 'emo' tag should stick, whether it is derogatory and general or not. MCR's music, style and members reflect the emo subculture and attitude and are commonly associated with Emo music and its followers. 220.237.23.19 03:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

In an interview the band clearly stated that all they were was rock. I agree. It doesn't matter how they dress, look at Manson, people thought he was metal just for wearing bondage type clothing...Even the band themselves have stated a hatred for the classification of emo... 216.201.194.106 16:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)johnny

Three cheers page
(I would put this under the three cheers page but the redirect isn't working, for me at least) That album page is an absolute shambles. The concept overview is directly contradicted in almost every other seperate song page. I don't know who is right and I think the whole concept section should be removed and only the singles should have their own pages. Gerard Way has stated half the songs don't follow the concept and this is mentioned in the article, however, that begs the question "Why include a song by song story overview when there is a quote from a member of the band saying half the songs don't follow the concept". A similar thing happened on The Black Parade page and rightly, it was removed, so what do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.17.86 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 24 March 2007


 * Really the main reason that there is an overview section is because many pages were set up for AfDs and a majority of the results were to redirect or merge with the Three Cheers article. It may need some work of course and sources. But I think that if it unsourced then it should be tagged with something like or  with a message on the talk page with what is needed and if it isn't taken care of removing the information. Of course if it's vandalism then it should be removed but it'd be helpful if you added the appropriate tags to the article so people can find the appropriate sources or delete the information. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 04:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I removed the overview section on the three cheers page and I think it shouldn't be put back in until someone can source it. I can't find a single non-contradictory source for the concept anywhere, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.219.24 (talk • contribs).


 * I am sure there are sources. There is a concept to Three Cheers as there is for The Black Parade and Bullets. All of My Chemical Romance's albums are concept albums. Some songs may stray from the concept to talk about perhaps real life issues but that's what makes it a concept album because it has a concept and it's not a full blown rock opera. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 18:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, but the overview was removed for the Black Parade as it was deemed to be a POV and I feel the concept is far more obvious in TBP than three cheers, therefore I feel the only plan of action was to remove the entire section and I didn't take out the part saying it is a concept album only the overview so I don't see a problem with my edit.(Edit) I now see it has been put back in, surely a person with as many edits as you will agree if something isn't fact (or sourced)it doesn't have a place on wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.219.24 (talk • contribs).


 * I added sources to the appropriate information and removed the song by song analysis. I think removal of the whole section was slightly drastic as there were no sources for the whole album. As I stated before adding the appropriate tags would've been helpful as I could've worked on it. So I had to revert it to source the section. I also left a comment on the talk page there. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 19:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

my chemical romance is not an 'emo' band, you will not find them slitting their rist or anything else of the sort, which may be classified as part of the garish definition of the word, the are an alternative rock band that is that.

In the mentioned magazine article on the page. My Chemical Romance themselves say they are trying to take the emo genre and turn it into something else. They refer to themselves as a "What-else-ya-got-emo" band

sorry
i saw anothe mention of ways death and dident realize that there were two of them and reverted the wrong one.sorryRazor romance 16:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Mikey or Gerard are not dead. Neither is their father as was mentioned above. Just please in the future if you are to add significant information like that please provide a source. Thanks! <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 17:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Gerard's death
Why does an article about Gerard killing himself keep coming up? Somebody needs to take this off and make sure it stays off.


 * This is a rumor and is untrue. Please just disregard it if it is added without a source and revert it. Thanks! <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 17:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The Used and MCR
the used and my chemical romance stopped talking because of Bert from the used saying that "you know what they do to guys like us in prison" was about him, not because of the use of under pressure? Alexxlush 14:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It was definitely over the use of Under Pressure. It was supposed to be done for charity, but the Used put it on their album ( it's not clear why; it could have been out of a mix up ) and gained profit from it.-- J UDE  talk 17:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I've also seen in interviews with Gerard that it was because of him becoming sober. Really these interviews haven't come out until recently because My Chemical Romance never really said anything and The Used didn't say the reason either. But there is criticism in the section and that needs to be sourced and also would the reason why they don't talk anymore. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 22:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

LIVE DVD?
I heard they were coming out with a live DVD with performances from "The Black Parae", and there used to be something about it on the page. Is there any truth to this or was it just a rumor?Arson5000

I think it must be a rumor as as The Black Parade tour last for a bit longer, And I also check the official MCR website and The Black Parade daily and it has said nothing about a Black Parade DVD (I also check other reliable website's)81.152.247.67 19:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC) [User:Candy1000]

It has yet to be confirmed, however there is a strong possibility of it coming out. Many users have reported there is filming for it, so we'll just have to wait and see. TeamOverload 13:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ambiguity
"MCR are sometimes maligned by the "grassroots" fans, for the expanded fan base, due to attracting fans they claim are "dirty great bummers", after the release of Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge"

Found this while checking the history. It is ambiguous who actually made the "dirty great bummers" statement, and I'm not sure if this is vandalism or not, but it certainly doesn't have a source. Actually reading it again it really doesn't make sense. Does anyone have any more info before I remove it? thefunkygibson 21:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * But don't you think this kind of things happens to many bands? the fans they started out with felt they discovered some great band and they were unwilling to share it. When the band gets more famous they begin feeling jealous and selfish because many other people start liking the band they like, making them call the band sellouts and their new fans fakers or something similar. I guess true fans should be happy for the success of the band they like and the band decides what music they make, not the fans... if they don't like it they can not listen to them. --60.50.53.212 05:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not denying that this is the case, because as many people know it obviously is. I'm saying that "dirty great bummers" isn't exactly encyclopaedic content and therefore should not be on the page unless we can find a reliable source that one of the band members said it.  Even if it is a general consensus among the fans, it should be removed in favour of a more formal statement. thefunkygibsonT¤C 19:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Projekt Revolution
MCR will be on Linkin Parks Projekt Revolution tour with HIM and various outher bands. thought i should let you all know, mabey it is something you would like to include it somewhere. jason Razor romance 14:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

We know it's coming but we'll wait for an official announcement. Any day now... MJB12 06:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

MCRmy section
This section was recently added and I removed it for multiple reasons. It was unsourced and added in the incorrect section twice. Also line breaks were added which should not generally be used. Perhaps a section can be added to the article. But I think the information needs to be sourced before anything. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 21:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Mikey Going On Honeymoon
On the official MCR website Gerard has posted that Mikey has gotten married and is going on a honeymoon with his wife. He will be temporarily replaced in tours. I think this should be in the MCR and the Mikey pages. Source: http://mychemicalromance.com/news#node_252
 * I agree. icelandic hur ric ane #12 (talk) 13:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's a good idea. Blkeddie! 13:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

the Black Parade section
I had a go at cleaning it up, but it's still very fragmented. Anyone willing to polish it up? And do we really need all the different TV performances? --Jamdav86 10:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No, we probably don't. Every performance does not need to be listed. Every performance is not listed in the other sections and I don't think we need all the information. Isn't probably notable enough information. I'm willing to polish it up when I get the time I'll look through it. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 23:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

ugh
mcr is NOT metal.

metallica - that is metal

megadeth - that is metal

iron maiden - that is metal.

so i got rid of the "class b metal article" thing.


 * Please keep in mind that this is a WikiProject category. More specifically WikiProject Metal. This was added by the project because the article falls under their scope. If you have a disagreement with this please go to their talk page and discuss it there. So I have readded it. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000; background-color: #000000" color=#FF0000> <font color=#ff0000> Orfen   <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 00:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Emo is not a genre people
OK first things first, emo can never be a genre of music...seriously look at the people who where singing the blues way back when...emo is used to imply the state of feeling your in, (example Susan is being emo because her boyfriend broke up with her). Now let's take an "emo" song like I'm not okay (humor me and call it emo, like so many unruly fans tend too) and lets add some double bass and change the vocals to loud screaming grinding vocals and what do you get? wow sounds like alot of metal bands out there...but they can't be "emo" can they? OK now lets take the same song (before the metal change) and lets make the guitars accoustic and a steel guitar and...OMG! its country!!!! Be serious people just because a guy whines about losing something that ment the world to him in a song doesnt make his band emo. Emo can never have a beat. Rock has a beat. Metal has a heavier louder beat. Emo...has no pulse Rock is everything. 216.201.194.106 16:45, 26 April 2007 (UTC)Johnny

I'm all for sensible intelligent debate of such issues.....but this is one of the most stupid things I ever read. No offense. --86.153.82.251 22:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, so correct me if i'm reading this wrong. "Susan" is being emo because her boyfriend broke up with her, but singing about losing something that meant the world to someone is not emo? To my knowledge Gerard wrote the lyrics to Famous Last Words when he was going through tough times with his girlfriend. The way i'm reading what your saying your almost contradicting yourself.Medic in Black 01:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Just to be pedantic, Gerard wrote FLW because Mikey left the Paramour mansion while they were recording due to his mental health issues. Not that that makes this argument any less valid, since the "emotion" is very clearly still there.
 * Emo is a dangerous term in situations like this, since it is easy to confuse emo as a stereotype (emo (slang)) with emo as a genre (emo (music)). Any music has emotion in it, so the genre is simply the style in which the writer has chosen to express that emotion.  Like the OP said, you could change the genre of the music, even make it an opera or something, but the emotion is still there.
 * Anyways for my £0.02, emo IS a genre (see emo (music), "In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the ... mid-1980s"), but it was regarded more as a genre in the 90s before all this stuff came about with myspace and cutters and side fringes and glasses (as in emo (slang)).
 * Since MCR doesn't really follow a similar style of music and writing etc to the patterns of emo as defined in the genre (like guitar riffs, vocal style etc), it is NOT emo in terms of the genre - it has just been branded as such by the media as a stereotype. If that doesn't make sense, it'd be like reading a book that was a fictional account of a fictional character's life, but if someone says one day "oh this story is true" and then everyone believes that, it can't make the book non-fiction because the book was fictional to begin with.
 * I'm not very good at explaining things, am I? O_o thefunkygibsonT¤C 00:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * no no what I was stating is that HE himself is BEING emo, but the fact that he put his lyrics to song doesnt make his BAND emo or make it a GENRE of music. If you look at Elvis singing love me tender or heartbreak hotel...the WORDS and FEELING can be called emo but you cant list it as a genre... i guess the point im trying to make (at which i failed) is that emo is more like a discription of the feeling you get...like saying the song is gloomy and depressing...you dont see a genre of music called gloomy out there. In my opinion emo is just another word for gloomy and depressing or whiny, something like that. In my opinion, and by all means tell me yours, im not trying to pick a fight. Johnny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.201.194.106 (talk • contribs)
 * I believe that emo is a genre, but it's not really the lyrics that are judged it is how they dress and what they do with their image. Though emo is basically another form of rock, if you think about it, its got a punk feeling but then has the screamo sensation as well. That's my opinion I can't think much today so I won't say anything else for the meantime. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blkeddie! (talk • contribs) 03:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

I dont really like sub-genre names...i think its bad to give them a name like emo-rock because that kinda just gives them a SET name as to what kind of music they make. And with a band as creative as my chem i think its wrong to call them an emo band, when to them THEY could just be making just plain rock. I like to stick to traditional names like rock, classical, and metal and so forth...now if emo had a certain beat and a certain rythm to it that seperated it from everything else, then ya have at it, emo's a genre. But since it doesnt sound any different then rock or punk rock or anything else i dont think it can exsist. Now i do think the term Alternative Rock is legit because it defines rock as being alternating, which most rock bands vary in style and beat. Johnny

See, "emo" is short for "emotional". In that case, aren't the majority of artists "emo"? Personally, when I listen to MCR on my iPod I think "alternative rock", not "emo".--Calario freebie 02:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

exactly my point Calario :) Johnny

The origin of the term "emo" came from music itself in the mid-1980's describing hardcore punk. As the music gained in popularity the slang "emo" was born which is the "emotional" term you talk about. Please see above comment by thefunkygibson and Emo (music) and Emo (slang). While I see that you seem to dislike the emo subgenre I am not entirely sure of the relevance to My Chemical Romance. The subgenre for My Chemical Romance is sourced. The community has agreed before to have all subgenres sourced and only alternative rock in the infobox. This consensus can be found in Talk:My Chemical Romance/Archive 2. I am not quite sure what this discussion has to do with My Chemical Romance however, are you wanting this subgenre to be removed? I would just like your objective clarified. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 20:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

what this has to do with my chemical romance is that people keep discussing whether or not they are an "emo" band, thus i wrote the above opinion. I wrote it because we are discussing wether or not they are or are not "emo".


 * Ok, but as I said before it has been agreed upon through consensus to have all subgenres listed with sources. If a reliable source is found for a subgenre then it should be added. Despite anyones objections this subgenre is sourced and shouldn't be removed without the consensus of other editors. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * who said anything about removing it? im just stating my opinion that Emo isnt a genre.


 * However there are reliable professionals out there that say emo is a genre. The genre came first and the slang came second. I believe based on your comments you think that the slang came first and therefore as you said the person is being emo when rather it is a subgenre of music stemming from hardcore punk. The origin comes from the musical subgenre and not from the slang which often has negative ties to it. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 00:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * if it is considered a genre how come when you go to the music store there isnt a section called Emo? Or when you go online to download i-tunes they dont list it as Emo? Simply because its a SUBgenre name. so what is the point of giving My Chem a SUBgenre name? rather then just giving them a generic name like rock, that covers all of the alternative asspects of music.216.201.194.106 18:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC) Johnny


 * When you go to the music store there isn't a section for... Dixieland music, for example, but it is still a valid subgenre. The article already states that the umbrella genre for MCR is "alternative rock", so to be honest I don't see your point.  Emo is still a genre in a historical sense; for example we don't now call classical music "pre-modern orchestral" or something like that, we still call it classical.  As far as I'm concerned, none of the music being written right now by any band qualifies as emo (music), simply because times have changed and so have the artists and listeners.  To me, emo is not an option for MCR's genre as they are not stylistically in the emo (music) genre, in exactly the same way they are not in the classical genre or the R&B genre - they just don't make that kind of music.  (See Music genre)  thefunkygibsonT¤C 19:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, subgenres are just another way of classifying things. A way to classify bands and certain songs into different categories. Subgenres and genres for that matter are categories which help show a relationship between two works. Also, while stores may not show every single genre in music there are professional reviewers that categorize different albums and songs into every genre and subgenre that it may fit in. For example, All Music Guide listed many different genres for The Black Parade album and one of these are "emo" but quite a few others are also listed. While I am not trying to prove My Chemical Romance's genre is "emo" but rather I am just pointing out that reliable reviewers have called their music emo and that emo is a subgenre. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 21:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

James Dewees
I may be confused, but the article seems to get across that James Dewees is now a member of the band. The article says "announced the addition of", but technically this is not true. At the Manchester show, they said he would be playing with them on the entire tour, but James Dewees ONLY appears in the Black Parade part of the show. When the band comes out again as My Chemical Romance, it is only the 5 guys, no James Dewees. MJB12 04:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * James is the keybordist. He is not a new part of the band. Pretty much all I know about him is that he plays keybord during the Black Parade portion, and he is 21 years old. I only know that because he turned 21 at the show in San DIego, and I was there. But there is not 6 members. He just plays keyboard. --MCRluvr 21:31, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

When does the new video come out?
When does Teenagers come out? I heard mid-march first, which got postponed because of the V Tech incident. I also heard April first, but it's not out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.234.252.90 (talk) 00:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC).


 * First, there is no source to suggest that the single was delayed because of Virginia Tech incident. Actually Gerard said it is more important to release it now because of it. But it is unknown when the video is to come out. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 01:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Food Poisoning
Guys, My Chem only cancelled ONE show and postponed another. Someone put cancelling at least five shows. First off, they only had two shows scheduled for those four days, and they cancelled the show Sunday, postponed the show Tuesday (to Wednesday) and they were recovered by Wednesday, and they played the show. --MCRluvr 17:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No, they canceled FIVE shows. They canceled April 29th in State College, PA first. Then, the Ohio show for May 1st was postponed twice then ultimately canceled. The shows that were meant to take place on nights that Ohio was postponed to, May 3rd in Glens Falls and May 4th in Reading were also canceled. They played Bamboozle on May 5th, but then canceled May 6th in Portland, Maine also. They canceled 5 shows - 4/29, 5/1, 5/3, 5/4, and 5/6. They finally picked back up again in Worcester last night on the 8th. There's tons of proof out there. MJB12 02:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * My bad, they actually canceled SIX. There was one scheduled for May 2nd in Pittsburgh that was also canceled. Six shows: 4/29, 5/1, 5/2, 5/3, 5/4, and 5/6. MJB12 02:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

My Chem cancelled all their shows from April 29 to May 4 They played Bamboozle on May 5 and Ray Bob and Matt were ordered 2 days bed rest after aggravating their weakness following their bout of salmonella They have cancelled May 6 but expect to play Wocester on may 8 Bronperna 07:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Kasabian quote
The page is protected, so I can't fix it, but the Kasabian quote should have a closing quotation mark in the Criticism section "should get out more and try and have a good time instead. [30] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.180.5.239 (talk) 17:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

Tour Members
Shouldn't there be a complete list?, not just current tour members? icelandic hur ric ane #12 (talk) 19:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I just added the section because those people are current tour members and Matt Cortez was constantly added. I don't know of any other tour members so I did not add any. But if there are others then yes, citations will probably be needed of course. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 20:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Mikey ways return
When Gerard was questioned at the press conference for Projekt revolution he was asked as to when Mikey Way will be returning and Gerard mentioned that he just saw Mikey the Day before the conference and that Mikey said he will be back with the group by the time the projekt revolution tour begins. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cplalmond (talk • contribs) 20:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC).


 * This piece of information would have to be sourced to be able to be added to the article. <font style="arial: ridge 2px #FF0000;"> <font color=#FF0000> O r f e n    <font color=#FF0000> User Talk | <font color=#000000> Contribs 20:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

This article has been stabbed.

please remove the vandalism from this article
please remove the vandalism from this article (the last change by duecex2)12.177.52.245 19:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Our Lady of Sorrows
Does that song or the concept to the album have anything with Romeo and Juliet?--69.113.131.124 23:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)