Talk:Mycenaean Greece/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 08:11, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Will review now. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:11, 27 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about the lemma. Why "Mycenaen Greece", and not "Mycenaean Civilization" as in other Wikipedias and in articles about similar topics (e.g., Minoan civilization)? What makes the difference here?

Entry is named "Mycenaean Greece", because it's part of an historical series about Greece. Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * This is a very important, central article. However, while reading I sometimes found it hard to follow, as it lacks a bit of stringency. Generally, it might be a good idea to add more background information before dealing with details, and provide more introductory sentences.

For now, prose is stringent enough and there is enough background information to help readers comprehend any details in the entry. Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Especially, I recommend to greatly expand the lead. The lead should summarize the whole article, and ideally give the reader a first good idea about the topic. It also would help the reader not to get lost in the main text.

For now, the lead is simple with enough substance to prepare readers for the remainder of the entry (lead can be expanded later if absolutely necessary). Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've expanded the lead with some additional info already found in the main text.Alexikoua (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

* The article seems to be both in British English and American English. E.g., sometimes it spelles "centre", sometimes "center". This needs to be unified.

✅ Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

* I'm not a native speaker, but language sometimes seems to be a bit odd and difficult to understand. A few examples:
 * In ancient Greek tradition, there were several states, like the ones recorded in the Iliad's Catalogue of Ships, as well as discovered by archaeologists.
 * Thus, in Boeotia, Gla, was part of the state of Orchomenos. – isn't that comma after "Gla" to much?
 * If some kind of united political entity existed, the dominant center was probably located in Thebes or in Mycenae, with the last one being the most possible. – what do you mean with "most possible"? Most probable?

✅ Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

* In the lead, you mention the writing system as an important feature of this culture. Yet there is barely any information on this in the article. E.g., what was it based on? The article needs a section about this. On the other hand, there is a large section e.g. on "Figures and figurines", which appears to be very detailed.

✅ Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

* The article confronts the reader with "Mycenaean Linear B script" or the "Iliad" without providing much information on this. What about a section introducing the sources available to archaeologists? To give the reader an idea what we know and what not? And whether archaeology or traditions are the most important sources.

✅ Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * What about history of research? Might also need its own section.

Separate entry on research ("Mycenology" or "Mycenaean studies") can be made later with a brief mention added here in the future. Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added some piece of info about the excavations of the early modern era by Schliemann in the legacy section.Alexikoua (talk) 19:59, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

* Section "Vessels" needs a source. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

✅ Theban Halberd (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Excellent, the article has been much improved. Thanks a lot to all of you. Will pass now! --Jens Lallensack (talk) 20:02, 3 April 2016 (UTC)