Talk:Myriostoma

Comments

 * You cite Hosaka & al. (2006) without properly integrating the results in the article, since they seem to contradict your summary of Krüger & al.'s ( 2001) findings. (looking at the Hosaka phylogeny they don't seem to put phallale and geastrales very close). Plus it seems relevant to state that Geastrum and Myriostoma have long been considered related.
 * I ended up taking out the cladogram, removed mention of higher-level relatedness to other groups (that info belongs in Geastrales anyway), and used the two molecular studies to support a statement about the genetic closeness of Myriostoma and Geastrum. Sasata (talk) 05:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I improved the writing (and some sourcing) in the taxonomic section. Be careful: M. anglicum is clearly a renaming of Lycoperdon coliformes, not a new species. This lets us MUCH simplify the final paragraph. The Stanek ref is . It would be nice to have a formal ref for the synonymy, though (which would allow an explanation of why it was sunk back).
 * I agree, it's much better. Have added Stanek citation, and will keep looking for synonymy ref. Sasata (talk) 04:37, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Please try to be careful about double-checking references? Corda's name is on page "lxxxi" (i.e. 81), which should not be changed as there is a separate arabic numbering of the work (I often run into this with some supplements not identified as such. It's hair-ripping.).
 * Sorry, didn't mean to cause any root damage :) Sasata (talk) 04:37, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * How about swapping the pictures of young and old fruit bodies? Also although I am sensitive to the idea of alternating placement of images, I am really iffy about images on the left under a section header.
 * Shuffled images to avoid this. Sasata (talk) 05:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You start the describing by mentioning a mycelial strand, they go to talk of "a large umbilical scar where the mycelial strand was attached." Some clarification of some sort seems warranted here it sounds like it implies the "pushing up" separates the sporocarp form the mycelium (something which I believe is unusual amongst fungi as a whole?). Stating that would be a good idea
 * The source doesn't make explicit that this separation is happening, so I've just left this out for now; may put it back in later if I find another source. Sasata (talk) 06:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I tried to avoid a Wiktionary link for "subreticulate" with "lightly interconnected". Hope I didn't misunderstand the term.
 * We actually have more Myriostoma images with 9+ ostioles than 6 or less (including in the article!). Maybe this part needs reconsideration...
 * Aligned the article text with the wording of the source: "several to many" ostioles. Sasata (talk) 06:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't "capillitium" be "capillitia" or "capillitiums"? I'm not entirely sure if the description of these is really warranted. Are they a significant/unusual/apomorphic feature?
 * Fixed plural to capillitia. I checked Miller & Miller (ISBN 0-916422-74-7), and they explain that in Gasteroid fungi, capillitia of different species differ in the size of their lumen (determined by wall thickness), the presence/absence of slits and/or pores, branching frequency, tapering system, as well as dimensions. They spend quite a few pages illustrating different types of capillitia in different species, so I don't think the coverage is excessive here in comparison. Sasata (talk) 04:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I found out about that later on, and didn't think of coming back to edit this comment. It seemed to be used in a collective fashion though... Having a quick sub for it to link to (since an eventual article is appropriate and would be better than a Wikt: link) seems appropriate: I'm not clear the definition you give ("coarse thick-walled cells found among the spores") is appropriate, since capillitium is clearly a broader term for a certain type of tissue(?) within, apparently, the gleba, and might well be discussed (like columella) in sporangium.


 * Suaréz (1999) has striking images of the spores, which make me wonder whether the "wart" qualifier is truly appropriate (Suaréez calls tem "strongly ornamented" and "somewhat reticulate"). Linking to the images (maybe as a footnote or with external media?) would probably be a good idea.
 * Good point, I oversimplified the description there. Have reworded to align more closely to the source. Cyberliber's timing out for me now, so will link to the spore pic as you suggest later. Sasata (talk) 04:37, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm confused by the "while" in "grow on well-drained south-facing slopes, while it prefers similar habitat on south-facing slopes in Australia." How are these different to require that conjunction?
 * Oops – north-facing slopes in Oz. 03:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Circéus (talk) 21:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * moved the mention of the Channel Islands with the rest of Europe. It felt really out of place in a paragraph concerned primarily with its conservation status.
 * Great critique, as usual. Will think about these and work on them over the next few days. Sasata (talk) 16:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Circéus (talk) 19:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * References copyedit
 * I've tentatively removed URL where they pointed to the same location as the doi, with open access to mark open DOI (also added to old JSTOR pubs now open). I also added ISSNs to a few more journals.
 * Wikilinking of journal names was irregular, I figured delinking it all was simpler in the end.
 * Are you sure Calonge & Almeida (1992) is in Portuguese and not Spanish?
 * I replaced the Esqueda (2009) link with a Scielo one to a HTML version, which seems a bit more user friendly to me.
 * Filled in the title for Lloyd (1919) based on the snippet I can see when I search here.
 * Are you sure about the title for Outcoumit & al. (2009)? There seems to be an extra (ungrammatical) word in it.
 * I suspect it's safe to assume Pawłowski & Adamska (2008) is in Polish except for the English abstract/title I linked to (author instructions say —in Polish—"The texts are published in the Polish language.").
 * Excellent, I've incorporated all of these reference fixes–thanks! I especially like the OA icon; now sometime I have to go back and add it to the other fungus articles (unless you've heard of a bot that could do this?). Sasata (talk) 03:20, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't go too wild on the OA. I'm using it only where an article is OA but not linked with the url parameter (which I reserve to links where you can access enough of the source to confirm the info). Those are usually DOIs (not all that often) or JSTOR (which is a recent devellopment). I wouldn't use it everywhere (as they do in the science report of the Signpost).

Distribution sources (that didn't make the cut)
These are sources pertaining to distribution that were cut from the article. I'm listing them here in case an easy-access bibliography of countries where the fungus is found might be helpful to future earthstar scholars. Sasata (talk) 00:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)



































External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Myriostoma. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added tag to http://www.australasianmycology.com/pages/pdf/24/2/25.pdf
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100907030054/http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Myriostoma-coliforme.htm to http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Myriostoma-coliforme.htm
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20121008172221/http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/SynSpecies.asp?RecordID=122233 to http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/SynSpecies.asp?RecordID=122233

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 09:58, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Edible
Where is the fungus/mushroom table that I'm used to seeing for mushrooms? If it's a plant I want to know if it's edible. Is the myriostoma edible? I'm not sure how this article to made it to GA without answering that question.... come on it's super important and relevant when the zombie apocalypse is upon us :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:6C00:E5A:2CF4:D7AB:CFA6:270 (talk) 00:17, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Distribution
Perhaps a bit out of context, but what mechanism leads to a species like this attaining more-or-less global distribution?

73.242.52.107 (talk) 15:12, 13 November 2017 (UTC)