Talk:MystiCon

Article Creator COI - User:Smikefoley
Just making this noted the the creator of the article has a huge COI because he is the owner or an orgraniser of the convention. When he uploded the logo he declared he held the copyright for it and only the owner / organiser would be able to do so.  « l | Promethean ™ | l »   (talk) 05:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Would like to suggest that the COI warning on this page be removed now. Thanks to the publicity this particular deletion discussion has gotten, lots of people have reviewed the article for neutrality and a few have edited to improve NPOV. In the interest of full disclose, I did add a keep comment on the article's deletion discussion. Gatherer818 (talk) 08:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Whatever text was added by any conflicted editor has been thoroughly rewritten or excised now. - Dravecky (talk) 10:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Possibly stupid question
Lots of the POV has been taken out of this stub, now I'm looking at the footnoting. Can someone point out for me where "the name...was chosen by the membership..." is supported by either of the first two cited sources? It is currently cited as [1] but had [1][2] in the past. But I can't find an actual supporting statement in either source. So what am I missing? Franamax (talk) 01:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The first source states, towards the end of the article, "Keith Finch, attorney for MystiCon, said his clients initially wanted to 'save the convention,' but eventually decided to start their own convention instead, which became MystiCon. 'They decided to choose another name and do a better convention.'" and the second states "Science fiction and fantasy enthusiasts were in full force this weekend, as a convention returned to the Roanoke region after nearly 30 years. The original MystiCon occurred in Blacksburg in 1980, according to the convention's website. Some participants of the popular SheVaCon brought MystiCon back this year at the Holiday Inn Tanglewood in Roanoke County."
 * I'm completely open to different language for the article and acknowledge that "tribute" may not be just the right word. - Dravecky (talk) 04:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not familiar enough yet with the guidelines for Wikipedia's articles quite yet, so just want to ask Discussion to see - Does ALL the information in an article need to be documented by WP:RS, or is it acceptable for some of it to be drawn from sources like the subject's website only? I realize the subject in general needs reliable outside sources to be considered notable, but once WP:N is satisfied, what about the rest of the info? The main reason I ask is that the guests for MystiCon 2012 appearing here doesn't seem that encyclopedic, and the only source I can find for that is the MystiCon website. (links to Wiki guidelines would be helpful so I can learn) Gatherer818 (talk) 03:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Welcome! The best link for you to study is probably WP:SPS (self-published sources) and WP:RS (reliable sources) is a good one too. Basically, any source has to be evaluated for reliability on the particular subject matter. A really top-notch science journal wouldn't be a good source on whether wide ties are in this year. For a corporation or organization, we cn take their word for where the event happens and who organizes it. Claimed attendance (for instance) needs a little harder look. Things like "the most prominent regional SF con in the US" would be highly suspect if they were sourced only from the organizing website. We would likely accept the website's claim of who the invited guests are, barring contradictory information. Information in our articles does not necessarily have to be sourced inline, per WP:CHALLENGE. The big loophole there is that any passerby can drop a fact tag anywhere they want, and just claim that because they are challenging something totally obvious, it is still a challenge and simply must be sourced. My own view is that if I can pretty easily verify the information on the organization website, and it's not self-serving, I won't worry about it. But do go ahead and add inline sources if you wish, just use your own judgement. Hope that helps. Franamax (talk) 03:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

This article was blogged
This article was blogged at ErfWorld. Bearian (talk) 20:08, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, specifically he links to the AfD. That's how I became aware of it and decided to at least read the article and the AfD to see if it was worth participating in.  He convinced me to finally register, so some kind of good came out of it.  (I'd like to note my 'keep' vote was not because he asked me to, but because after spending a whole afternoon reading up on Wikipedia's current guidelines, I felt the article met enough for inclusion and none for deletion.)  Gatherer818 (talk) 08:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Shevacon?
Why isn't there an article for Shevacon? It's been around longer as a continual convention and it's the convention that Mysticon branched off of, and both are based in Roanoke, VA. (Although Shevacon got started in Staunton, VA) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Balderdash (talk • contribs) 16:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)