Talk:MythBusters (2009 season)

Format
Never mind the errors in this page. It is the wrong format. This has the format of the episodes list. It should have the format of the MythBusters (20XX) pages. Name and number of the episode, name of the experiment, description of experiment, result, and air date. 129.101.35.13 (talk) 01:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreeded with 129.101.35.13. Also I'm not sure how accurate this statement is: "The MythBusters tested these myths for accuracy in 2009". Are we sure that none of production was done in 2008? Jon (talk) 15:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Draft
I started Talk:MythBusters (2009 season)/Draft, which is supposed to follow previous episode lists in styling and formatting. It may take a while before it is ready for moving into the article.Kxx (talk) 04:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Exploding Matches
That exploding matches myth was freakin' awesome!!!! --Anonymous07921 (talk) 18:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't make things US-specific here
Discovery is not a US-only channel, MythBusters is not a US-only show, Wikipedia is not a US-only website.Kxx (talk) 18:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The Exploding Bumpers episode aired in Australia before the US. Reubot (talk) 01:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I admit I was a bit shocked to see the results up on Wikipedia before I'd seen the episode aired, and I admit I got a bit overzealous in my editing.  I'm not sure about the procedure for this sort of thing, as I've never encountered this sort of thing before...it's usually the reverse (US airs first, then foreign countries).  Regardless, I was almost certainly out of line here, and for that, I apologize. — MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs) 14:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You were not wrong Mars —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.121.56 (talk) 02:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Usually when on the same article page when different networks were first in the world to air different episodes, the network that aired each episode is listed first. If "Exploding Bumpers" was the only episode in which it was the case then for the rest of the episodes the (US) would be replaced with (Discovery Channel) the first instance linked and in Exploding Bumpers the (Australia) would be replaced with (Discovery Channel Australia) with that reference linked. (I looked it up; down under the official name of their channel is Discovery Channel Australia.) Jon (talk) 02:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Another case of "world before US" has apparently happened, with the Knock Your Socks Off episode. According to one source, the episode has aired in the UK already, as of last week. Can someone confirm please? If not, then my last edit was invalid. — MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs) 15:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. I count 9 episodes so far shown in the UK before the US. These were: Banana Slip, Double-Dip; Swimming in Syrup; Exploding Bumper; See-saw Saga; Knock Your Socks Off; Duct Tape Hour; Myth Evolution 2; Greased Lightning; Hurricane Windows. Also a 10th episode, "Crash and Burn" is scheduled for next Monday. I think the UK dates should appear on the line above the USA dates for these episodes. Mistertickle (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

It might be worthwhile looking at how other articles have handled the issue of "domestic TV show being premiered in foreign nation". List of Battlestar Galactica (reimagined series) episodes is a good example; this US/Canadian show had most of its regular episodes shown in the UK before they were shown in their originating nations. In the BSG episode list article, there is a note made about the UK:US premiere date discrepancies at the top of the article, and then the individual episode entries simply list one original airdate of whatever was the first premier worldwide. Andrew Oakley (talk) 14:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

"Myth Evolution" likely NOT a new the next episode.
I'm pretty sure the "Myth Evolution" listing here is wrong. I know MSN TV says there's a new episode by this name on October 28th, but there are a few facts that contradict this:

* "Myth Evolution" is already an episode name. Specifically, an episode in 2007.
 * Discovery's own website lists the episode on October 28th as "Greased Lightning", which MSN lists as airing on October 31st.
 * Discovery's website does not indicate a MythBusters episode on October 31st. Not even a rerun.
 * A new episode on October 31st, a Saturday, would be a major deviation from the schedule, and I doubt they would do that for what seems to be a regular episode, unless they were forced to because of something on the 28th (which does not seem to be the case).

Incidentally, the errors on MSN's website may have stemmed from an error on Discovery's own website which has since been corrected. (I noticed the listing on the Discovery site looked similar to MSN's over a week ago, but it was corrected by last Thursday.) — MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs) 14:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Previous (hasty) statement revised (and the claim of it not being "new" retracted). The myths associated with the episode (as listed) are new.  However, some of my previous arguments stand. — MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs) 14:34, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Needs to explain different worldwide airdates, especially premières in UK
AFAIK, the 2009 season is the first Mythbusters season to première outside the USA first. Also, the episode sequences differ considerably, eg. UK vs. USA. For example, I'm a Brit and I saw the Greased Lightning two weeks ago, but it is yet to air in the USA. I think we should have a section explaining these differences. Also, does anyone have any good sourced reasons why this is happening? Andrew Oakley (talk) 08:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know why this is happening, but I make it 10 episodes so far shown in the UK before the US. The problem that I forsee is the demand that the UK airdates should have citations - this is going to be very difficult because the Discovery UK website won't let you see any TV schedules earlier than the current week.

Mistertickle (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm from Asia, and Hurricane Windows was shown here last Friday. I've already added the summaries to that episode, as well as a reference to the airdate. I might have left some mistakes, so please correct them if you spot any, especially after the episode is aired there at the States. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 02:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * We're (UK) now getting so-called new episodes from all over the place (the last two being April 2009 and December 2009), and the citation requirement is going to be impossible to meet - the Discovery schedule online just won't permit that, and linking to the schedule for the two dates I've added today is only going to work for another six days.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.9.66 (talk) 22:57, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If it's not verifiable, it shouldn't be in the article. Verifiability is a core policy of Wikipedia. --AussieLegend (talk) 02:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The USA airdates don't link to online schedules nor do they get "citation required" slapped all over them. So the UK airdates should get equal treatment. It's not right to start demanding proof that isn't required for the USA airdates; half a million viewers in the UK saw the episodes air when they did. They were aired, they were seen, on those dates. Mistertickle (talk) 09:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * What you've said is blatantly untrue. Every episode is cited and the US airdate is shown at the source linked to in the citation. There's no need to provide a separate citation for the US airdate when the entire episode is supported by a citation. That's why the dates aren't challenged. Most of the UK airdates were not cited, even after being challenged. --AussieLegend (talk) 09:55, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

The Frozen Head
The section frozen head is an exact copy of the next section, the exploding frozen tree. I have no idea hoe to fix, didn't see that episode. Md1w (talk) 22:56, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Sonic Boom and Glasses
I understand this is not exactly a science show, but anyway... Should we add links disproving what they have busted or confirmed wrong?

Sonic Boom can sure destroy glasses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFXlYBYKBDk because that is not even at sonic speed.

--Caue (T | C) 14:25, Thursday 2012-07-5 (UTC)


 * To answer your question: No. This is not the place to debate MythBusters results.
 * And in any case, you're missing the point. The myth was not that a sonic boom can break glass (which it can; they even admitted as much at the beginning of the episode).  The myth was that any sonic boom will break glass (which is false). — MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs) 15:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

double-entry mythbusting
Why are some myths listed twice? (particularly in "Car Cling" and "Sonic Boom Sound-off") —Tamfang (talk) 22:32, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There are subtle differences between the tests, such as being undertaken by Jamie and then Adam (or vice versa) or different test parameters. The tests are generally listed in the order shown in the episode, so sometimes the same test may be performed twice, several tests apart. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 06:41, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Generally, if the only difference between two tests is the person doing them, they'll be listed together. But in the case of "Car Cling", there was an important distinction between the tests: When Jamie was doing the tests, he was always on the roof of the car.  When Adam was doing the tests, he was always on the hood of the car. — MarsJenkar  (talk | contribs) 14:42, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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