Talk:N. Chandrababu Naidu/Archive 1

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chinni September 5 2005

NPOV
the following statement in early life and political career, "This won him wide appreciation from both his party cadre and the public" seems to glorify him a lot.....even statements like ,"During this tenure Naidu systematically introduced transparency in Government, breaking the tradition of inordinate secrecy in the Finance department." seem like glorification campaign...although he is a able and efficient administrator ,the above statements dont seem to reflect wiki's NPOV.....Gprince007 11:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Those sentences have been edited and a section about his loss of ministership is also added. So I guess now the debate about NPOV could stop?--Sandeep346 (talk) 06:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit
There are a number of issues to be addressed in the text, please refer to hidden comments marked "Copyeditor's note". Also, this article has hardly any references, and badly needs more (citeable) criticism of Naidu to balance the POV. Cricketgirl 20:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I have added a few references that found for some of the quotes and facts. I am sure some one would do the criticism part :) --Sandeep346 (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Reference
I am pretty surprised that this aritlces neutrality is being disputed. Pretty much all the quotes, and rather ambitious claims have been cited.

Every quote now has a reference cited from the internet.And I am pleasantly surprised all the quotes were found on the net. I am sure now we can stop the debate about the accuracy of the article--Sandeep346 (talk) 16:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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POV
I am added the reference required for this article, if u need are any clarification regarding this i can help you guys.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnareshbabu (talk • contribs) 21:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC) Looks like this page too a big step backwards on the latest POV edits. Not a single line has references. Also, looks like most of the editing was done by one fan. We need to revert it back to the last Gprince edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.73.148.245 (talk) 19:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

The current article has POV.Either the author forgot to update the article with recent events or its a case of POV.A lot of things has happened ever since he has been ousted from chief-ministership.Also no talks of farmer deaths,rise of priced in basic amenities etc etc.--Sahodaran 15:27, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The above causes for a POV doesnt seem rational. May be the article is POV. From the above comments It looks like it needs updating and expansion --Vyzasatya 03:08, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok.I was trying to imply that first and foremost;A LOT HAS HAPPENED WHICH HAS BEEN LEFT UNMENTIONED.Most of these "left unmentioned" things are embarrassing to Mr.Naidu,so it is certainly not a matter of coincidence.It certainly needs updating and expansion but it must also allow for some kind of criticisms.Naidu,afterall is not someone who is free from criticism.From the present article,one will feel that he is one.(free from criticisms!).It rather seems like an ad for Mr.Naidu.I am all for POV tag here--Sahodaran 03:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

This is an article about an eminent personality and should be treated with respect. His party has been ousted from power which is mentioned in the article. It is due to the collective loss of the political party and not the responsibility of naidu. It should be pointed out that he WON the elections in his constituency with RECORD MAJORITY WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING at all. So we better not debate about the neutrality of the article. It surely doesnt look like a fan site for naidu because it mentions his losing his chief minsitership as well. But I do agree that the article needs to be updated with the events that happened after 2006.--Sandeep346 (talk) 16:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

"N"
So "N" is the first of his two given names, and not an abbreviation of a title or anything? --Menchi 05:25, Aug 1, 2003 (UTC)


 * Anon 217 just answered. It's "Nara". --Menchi 05:42, Aug 1, 2003 (UTC)

Indian names are usually long with the father's name or native place's name being the surname and the caste being the last name. So in his case, Nara is derived from his village naravaripally, which literally means "Village of Nara" in telugu, and his last name is Naidu, which is the name of his caste in hindu religion. His give name is chandra babu.--Sandeep346 (talk) 16:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Your wrong there. Father name becoming the last name is only done in Tamil Nadu as far as I know. In Andhra Pradesh it is the same as everywhere else. Nara is his surname and Naidu is suffix/middle name. Naidu in this case is not suffix which tells his caste as he is not a Naidu so in otherwords thats his middle name. Naravaripalle (translation above is wrong correct translation is "Nara's Village" Naravari translates to Nara's) name it self is telling village was named after his family being a dominant family at a certain time which is how most villages and towns are named in India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.214.52 (talk) 19:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

afro asian games
guyz... did anybody think of adding a point about I afro asian games conducted in hyderabad in 2003, under his tenure and cheif minister...

this is a very important matter as the afro asian games has a big page in wiki.... Afro_asian_games — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.206.222 (talk • contribs)

changes
added 3 sections - Tenure as CM, defeat in 2004 and his legacy. --Hydman 10:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Chandra Babu Naidu is one of the living legend and a person of great foresight. Due to his futuristic vision Andhra Pradesh has become a hub for IT. Under his able leadership AP has made great progress but unfortunately the climatic conditions were not good during some of the years while he was in power. Congress came into power due to this natural calamities otherwise there was no chance for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.197.253.62 (talk • contribs)

POV 2009
Okay. So, there have been excessive edits adding in poorly written and poorly thought out cruft. Examples of problems are lines like:


 * "Janmabhoomi is a people centered development process launched in January 1997. This process has evolved out of the experience gained through the implementation of Prajala Vaddaku Paalana (taking administration to the door steps of people) launched in November 1995 and Sramadanam (contribution of labour) launched in January 1996. It aims at establishing and ideal society, which embodies and cherishes the principles of people’s participation, equality, transparency and accountability leading to sustained economic development and excellence in all walks of life. The goal is an enhanced quality of life for every man, woman and child in the state. Fourteen Rounds of Janmabhoomi have been held so far in the State"

The reference for the above quote was set as http://www.aponline.gov.in/quick%20links/economic%20survey/janambhoomi.pdf - and that whole paragraph was taken from that PDF - word for word. Which is a problem in itself. The other issue is that this is simply propaganda from the organisation responsible for the program. It's hardly something that should be referenced. That would be like referencing a North Korean website extolling the virtures of that country. There needs to be reliable THIRD party references.

The paragraph:


 * "Mr. Naidu has been evincing a keen interest in rural development activities in general and, the upliftment of the poor and   downtrodden sections of society in particular.While pursuing his post graduation, he worked out to lay a road from Rangampet village to Naravaripalli with the support of the people in his village, adjacent villagers and his friends. This was a real example for his leadership qualities."

and the line:


 * "Mr. Naidu became a MLA (of Chandragiri constituency in 1978) at a very young age through sheer hard work. "

are simply political promotional material. This is NOT what an encyclopedia should contain. Not at all. There are more examples of this. The references notwithstanding, this should NOT be put back in without some reputable and verifiable 3rd party references. Ccrashh (talk) 12:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well i am busy in real life and didnt want to explain each and everything to an anon editor but User:Ccrashh has just voiced my concerns in the above post. I would request this anonymous editor to refrain from adding any political propaganda on this page...! Gprince007 (talk) 15:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Naidu has been evincing a keen interest in rural development activities in general and, the upliftment of the poor and downtrodden sections of society in particular./ Rhis may Be agnist POV//

While pursuing his post graduation, he worked out to lay a road from Rangampet village to Naravaripalli with the support of the people in his village, adjacent villagers and his friends. // These sentence are true, we have telugu news paper cutings is it enough for this one//

This was a real example for his leadership qualities. // It May Be aganist POV//

I am asking you guys all the above stuf is agnist POV, are last sentecne is agnist POV. can you give the break up wich is agnist POV and wich NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.126.245.198 (talk) 12:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * First, there has to be a reliable online source or reference to the paper. Second, it shouldn't be an opinion piece that lauds this guy.  Writing something like "Mr. Naidu has introduced programs that are designed to improve the lives of the poor" along with a verifiable reference to these programs and their intent, then that is okay.  Stating that "Mr. Naidu has shown interest in rural development activities" without a reference, and without context, is not acceptable.  Even the phrase "..has been evincing a keen interest in..." is not even notable - just because he has an "interest" in something doesn't mean he actually is doing anything about it.  As for the paragraph "While pursuring his post graduation...", if there is an historical reference that can be linked, then it would be fine.  Simply stating it is not acceptable. Ccrashh (talk) 13:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

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Edit request on 31 March 2012
There seems to some biased posts and falsehoods being propagated by vested interests to defame Chandrababu Naidu. This is a ripe case where people with malicious intent gained access to the page and preventing editing out of falsehoods. I dare you to open the page.

Ghan0011 (talk) 04:55, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Also see WP:NOTFORUM. Thanks.  &mdash; Jess &middot; &Delta;&hearts; 05:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

How about the following line. "Naidu fought tooth and nail to halt the investigation". The line seems to be suggesting that Naidu was trying hard with some sort of fear to stop the investigation, this sort of writing cannot come from an unbiased mind and is against Wikipedia policies, neither is this substantiated by any unbiased publication.

Also, about the reasons for the debacle. The literacy rate cause, real employee wages cause are unsubtantiated as they came from a biased pro-communist author, Palagummi Sainath. What we need here is a link to the project report from a government agency in India to be unbiased here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghan0011 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

@ Ghan CBI case may be biased but look at http://www.eaber.org/node/22385,  you will see that GDP growth rate average 5.8% during Naidu rule (1996-2004) lower than  national average, http://www.cato.org/economic-freedom-india/Chapter3.pdf this report further shows GDP growth rate averaged 9.06% in 2004-2009 and how AP achieved higher growth rate later.

please read this report http://www.nfhsindia.org/NFHS-3%20Data/ap_state_report_printed_version_for_website.pdf , you will find that what is written in wikipedia is factually correct. Wikipedia should not delete the facts just because they are against him

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.5.84 (talk) 10:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Request for protection
This article is prone to vandalism. I request wiki to protect this article so that it won't become a fan page or hate page of concerned person — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.10.231 (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2014
Chandrababu Naidu has recently won the reelection for Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh.

50.140.154.192 (talk) 23:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 23:58, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2014
kindly, list that NCN has become the first CM of Seemandhra in the present elections, his promises and the majority with which TDP has won.

Thanks.

50.167.181.144 (talk) 23:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 00:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Article name
I have reverted the change in the name of this article. N. Chandrababu Naidu is his common name, "Nara" is rarely expanded. Please start a formal move request and discussion before doing this again. See his own Twitter, for example.—indopug (talk) 04:01, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2014
He now the majority in Andhra Pradesh assembly.

Lohithnamini (talk) 08:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Please be more specific on what do you wish to change in the article. Materialscientist (talk) 08:47, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * He probably meant to say that Chandrababu Naidu's Telugu Desam Party is the government forming party in Andhra Pradesh Assembly Elections last week......  ƬheStrike  Σagle  sorties  09:06, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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The 63-year-old former Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh undertook 'Vastunna Meekosam' (I am coming for you) padayatra to reinvent himself as the leader as well as the party that has been out of power for nine years now.

Flanked by almost all the top leaders of TDP and film star Nandamuri Balakrishna, Chandrababu unveiled a 60-feet pylon at Sivaji Nagar on the outskirts of the port city to mark the culmination of the 2817-km foot march that had begun at Hindupur in Anantapuram district o ..

Read more at: //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/19758233.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst 137.186.92.119 (talk) 05:31, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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1 km not 11km
the reference [19] says 1 km not 11km. is this another propaganda?
 * You are right. The source doesn't say that. I will remove it. Thanks for bringing this to our notice. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 17:10, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Chittoor not Chittor
In the "Early life and education" section, link to his native district is incorrect. It should be Chittoor, not Chittor. Dhawangupta (talk) 05:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Page needs to be protected from vandalism
A big political persona's Wikipedia is recommended to be semi - restricted to edit as it might be prone to vandalism Iamenenra (talk) 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Multiple Issues: Excessive detailing and fan POV
A. The article goes in excess details of each and every policy, achievement and programme taken up by the subject, for example
 * 1) An entire section on Hyderabad Metro, how he conceptualized it and prepared DPR, when it was inaugurated nearly 13 years after the subject's term
 * 2) Future Decoded - Microsoft: An entire section only about the subject's presentation without going into details of its outcomes

B. Fan POV
 * 1) No critical analysis of subject's chiefministership and his policies. While the article goes into excessive details of his ideas and projects, it does not offer any outside commentary of the same. Taking up any programme itself is written as an achievement.
 * 2) Little information is presented about the subject's corruption allegations and scandals, for example the article makes no mention of 2015 Cash for Vote Scam.

I've tagged the article so that the editor's attention is drawn towards the issues, while some sections may be improved by individual editors, the article as an whole may need a revamp to change its tone and content to comply with encyclopedic standards. Regards -- Ab207 (talk) 14:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Janmabhoomi Programme, Vision 2020, Swarnandhrapradesh State, Hyderabad's development, Welfare schemes, Irrigation projects, Sunrise State, Rayalaseema development, Amaravati development, Visakhapatnam development don't even have significance to be written in individual sections. Rework should be done inline with WP:SOAP.--iMahesh ( talk ) 17:06, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi guys, found your names at WikiProject Politics/Participants. Can you please help us in reworking this article. Since we're inexperienced at political-related articles, can't find a way to initiate.--iMahesh ( talk ) 17:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you suppose that there is scope to split this article into Chief Ministership of N. Chandrababu Naidu, on the lines of Chief Ministership of C. Rajagopalachari, to retain some of the relevant content?
 * I think it might be good to retain them on one article inline with Chief Minister of Gujarat, which is a Good article.--iMahesh ( talk ) 17:42, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's good example to follow. I believe we can start by re-arranging the sections in chronological order, and go for additional section only when necessary. --Ab207 (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * , Its unclear why you are re-adding trimmed info without engaging in the discussion; This is an encyclopedia, we don't need to track every single event or policy taken up by the subject. This info about water conservation is not noteworthy at all. --Ab207 (talk) 17:03, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


 * This info has its importance because it's comes under water conservative measures taken by govts back even this info is present in pm narendra modi page taken in his govt CiteLeadBoat (talk) 02:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , If its notable enough, it must be supported by reliable and independent sources. This information,,, coming directly from the GoAP  doesn't establish the programme's significance. There are hundreds of other projects like these which we don't intend to include. Ab207 (talk) 05:46, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


 * @IM3847 a politician profile have multiple sections not sticked to only poltical life but business career is important if he own business like u can see the business career in George w bush and Donald Trump CiteLeadBoat (talk) 02:56, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, even Narendra Modi article covered his achievements. But, all of them are clubbed into one section named Development projects.--iMahesh ( talk ) 04:56, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


 * No not for this, I said you about removing section of heritage Inc so instead of rm I make it back add into business career as u can see this business career section on other political profiles and doesn't come under wpsoap if-else not martekting and moreover if we observe such as Barack Obama and Angela Merkel about taking political decisions making policies and how their played active roles explained detailed in every section with following specific timeline method in respect of their states and nations internal matters. So if there is unsourced and promotive way content it would be concerned.  Thanks  CiteLeadBoat (talk) 05:30, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I've removed sections which aren't qualified for encyclopedic value and adjusted stalled sections inline with other politician articles. Let me know the reason, if some important info is missing. Please go through Notability criteria & What Wikipedia is not for more info.--iMahesh ( talk ) 02:56, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , you should understand that Verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. We are not required to blindly regurgitate all the information we have. The content should be neutral, balanced, and relevant. Especially in high-profile subjects like these, inclusion should be based on consensus. --Ab207 (talk) 06:27, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You did a good job. Disaster Management section also needs some attention, I believe it can be presented in 2-3 short paragraphs. --Ab207 (talk) 07:32, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * @Ab207 I would like to restart the cleanup. Do you have any priority list or pointers, that can be worked on first and then progress further? Any GA articles that could be referenced? J. Jayalalithaa seems to have good sections; political career with chrono ordering of CM and opposition, controversies, corruption cases, popular culture, awards. Narendra Modi has awards and then popular culture. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Yeah, arranging everything in chronological order is a good start. Additional sections must be used only when necessary. Legacy needs a huge chopping and disaster management may need to go. Case in point, N. Chandrababu Naidu talks about the 2028 Olympics but now the project is as dead as a doornail given the change in government. A larger issue is excessive reliance on primary sources and press releases, instead of secondary sources that provide critical commentary. Ab207 (talk) 04:39, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * @Ab207 As a rough start, I re-arranged the sections (not finalized though) somewhere along the lines of Jayalalithaa. We should now start moving content into relevant sections, such as Janmabhoomi, Assassination attempts, Hi-Tech city, etc. I will edit the article after 10:30 pm IST (6 pm for me). You could edit before that so we won't have edit conflicts. -- DaxServer (talk) 16:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Sounds good to me. Ab207 (talk) 17:03, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Cleanup: ToDos
This cleanup todos list is being updated regularly when some re-work is done. :


 * 1) EFN for his mother's noted the spelling variation. Determine if this is just a spelling mistake, current sources:
 * 2) ✅ Find sources for him being born into an agricultural family.
 * 3)  Where did he pass BA? SVU?
 * 4) ✅ Determine whether quoting Hindustan Times' Sri Venkateswara Arts College is WP:Synthesis or WP:FACTS. Alternative is the India's Glocal Leader book, which cites [...] he pursued his degree at Sri Venkateswara Arts College in Tirupati. Determine RS for the book. Update 1 August 2021: Sourced from book Special:Diff/1036623047
 * 5) ✅ Find sources that says he has passed MA (Economics).
 * 6) ✅ SVU?
 * 7) Find sources for PhD work in SVU, if not already established in the Rediff ref (might be WP:SYNTHESIS?)
 * 8) Should the 'caste fights' in SVU be noted? current sources:
 * 9) Determine RS for books/papers (not limited to):
 * 10)  India's Glocal Leader: Chandrababu Naidu. See Special:Permalink/1033435298 and comments below.
 * 11) Rythu bazaar starting mentioned
 * 12) Untold Story of Chandrababu
 * 13) New Populism and Liberalisation: Regime Shift under Chandrababu Naidu in AP
 * 14) Add to NTR's page, if not already present, about the idea of regional parties after attending Bhavanam Venkatram's ceremony, current sources:
 * 15) Should the reason for 1989 change from Chandragiri to Kuppam constituency, as "he was not happy that the voters defeated him in 1983 despite his work", be added? current sources:
 * 16) Which Congress did he join in 1975? Economic Times PTI source says he joined Youth Congress in 1975. Indira Gandhi seceded and formed Congress (I) on 2 January 1978. He became an MLA in 1978 (date? so that it would be clear it's from (I) or (R)) from Congress (which one: (I) or (R)?), and lost in 1983 from Congress ((I) or (R))? ECI recognised (I) to be the real Indian National Congress for the 1984 elections, and the (I) was dropped in 1996.
 * 17) Update infobox with 1978-1983 MLA post.
 * 18) Source all content and remove Encyclopaedia Britannica citation.
 * 19) Rm Infobox Almamater source. It is dead and SVU is now sourced.
 * 20) Find better sources for NTR making his party coordinator in 1989.
 * 21) Re-write 1989 post-coordinator sentences. It's a copy-paste from the source.
 * 22) NTR's interview with Reuters needs to be copy-edited for it being copy-pasted from the source.
 * 23) Find additional sources to support second-largest party in NDA in 1999 elections.
 * 24) Is the translation for Deepam (1999 scheme) "lamp"?
 * 25) Source Janmabhoomi
 * 26) Source Dial-your-CM
 * 27) Source self help groups and DWCRA
 * 28) Source Rythu bazaar
 * 29) Source e-Seva (currently Mee Seva (Andhra Pradesh) and Mee Seva (Telangana))
 * 30) Role in Hyderabad development. Useful sources:
 * 31) Role in HITEC City. Sources:
 * 32) Source Genome Valley
 * 33) Source RGIA
 * 34) Re-section Hyderabad Multi-Modal Transport System
 * 35) Source Real Time Governance Society. Cross-improve the article. Sources:linked article and
 * 36) Views on AP bifurcation. Sources:
 * 37) What made him leave NDA in 2018? Sources:
 * 38) Verify and copy edit contributions to K. R. Narayanan's election as President
 * 39) Should assassination attempts be merged into the chronological sections, or a separate section, like it is now?
 * 40) Is mention of his house-felling by current govt. due?
 * 41) Source Amaravati / Amaravati Metropolitan Region Development Authority (AP CRDA earlier)
 * 42) Source Vision 2020. Current sources:
 * 43) Source Vision 2029. Current sources:
 * 44) ✅ Source Vision 2050. Current sources:
 * 45) ✅ Naidu Day in Illinois. Current sources:
 * 46) Is he an admirer of Singapore and its founder Lee Kuan Yew? Could be useful to add to Amaravati in 2014-2019 section. Useful sources:
 * 47) Source his views around IT. Useful sources:
 * 48) ✅ Source NTR Bharosa Pension scheme. Sources: Other sources used, see article.
 * 49) ✅ Source Pasupu Kunkuma scheme. Sources: Other sources used, see article.
 * 50) ✅ Source Mukhyamantri Yuvanestham scheme. Sources: Other sources used, see article.
 * 51) Source NTR housing scheme. Sources:
 * 52) ✅ Re-organize bike ambulances.
 * 53) Consider removing ANI reference, as the line could be completely sourced from The News Minute.
 * 54) Source the work progressed for Pulichinthala Project, if it could be attributable to Naidu's third term.
 * 55) What happened to Godavari-Penna interlinking after the NGT stay?
 * 56) Mention YSRCP review of all projects by TDP, in both the third term as CM and current opposition leader sections.
 * 57) Source relation with Y. S. Rajasekhara Reddy
 * 58) Is foundation Chintalapudi lift irrigation project relevant? Special:Diff/1035787462
 * 59) Source meanings of projects Gandiva and Panchjanya. Is Gandiva a symbol of Gandiva?
 * 60) ✅ Add temporary comments to all the sections which were cleaned up so other editors would be aware
 * 61) Zero-Budget Natural Farming - see if something from the research paper could be used:
 * 62) Personal life section
 * 63) Dharma Poratam
 * 64) Intro to Marri Chenna Reddy

— DaxServer (talk · contribs) 11:11, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The Rediff source already presents We used to grow sugarcane, then make jaggery. I missed it yesterday. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The Economic Times' PTI source cites his Masters from SVU. [...] started off as a students' union leader in Sri Venkateswara University while pursuing his Masters in Economics. -- DaxServer (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hindustan Times source cites his Masters from SVU is done and cites Sri Venkateswara Arts College. -- DaxServer (talk) 18:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment on India's Glocal Leader:, according to Pagadala's website, Naidu is her former employer. They have also declared that they "liked Chandrababu Naidu as a leader and administrator". Notwithstanding its reliability, I believe WP:BIASED and WP:POV apply in this case. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * How shall we approach it in this case? Should we look for other sources? -- DaxServer (talk) 07:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , NPOV is the relevant guideline. It think it can be used for uncontrovesrial information but opinionated content should be presented per WP:WEIGHT and WP:BALANCE. Ab207 (talk) 08:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Do we also add that he talked about importance of IT literacy during IIT Bombay Vision 2050 talk? Surely, that would augment sourcing of his views about IT. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @DaxServer and @Ab207 Looks like your efforts went in vain. The page looks highly disruptive now especially the title of every category. User named Chinnusaikrish is adding content related and centric to YSR and Lokesh when this is a page about another person. Can you help anything with it?  4 5 6 legend (talk) 11:23, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd leave further improvements to others. This article is not a priority for me atm. Thanks! — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking back, I believe there’s some tangential content in my edits which needs to go away — DaxServer (mobile) (t · m · c) 11:42, 24 December 2022 (UTC) — DaxServer (mobile) (t · m · c) 11:42, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @DaxServer Okay, I understood. I will first try to bring back the previous edits and further ensure to give a neutral tone as extent as possible. And keep in account of your points. 4 5 6 legend (talk) 11:44, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Some sections contain the information about other personalities not focussing on this subject can you refer to the above consensus to add the respective past editors content or atleast allow me to edit now? (Seeking permission because I don't want to interrupt your editting) Thank you 4 5 6 legend (talk) 15:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. I wasn't planning on doing any more edits for the time being. You are absolutely allowed to edit yourself, under any any circumstances. Did I understand you correctly that you consider there are things that should be removed from the article? —Alalch E. 15:42, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes there are things that are to be removed and also added.
 * If you clearly study the above concensus and also closely observing the edit history of this page from December 6th there is a user who kept on adding disruptive titles and content. 4 5 6 legend (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I encourage you to make your desired changes, and to the extent that they are additions, that you provide sources. I am not aware of any significant pieces of information that should be removed, but I am interested in seeing what you will identify as the problems. —Alalch E. 15:52, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Alalch E. I was actually again thinking about creating a new page to add the above concensus matter because the matter relates to the subjects involvement widely which would be very lengthy if put here.

I will be considering this and working upon it since previous editors also quit working on this article. 4 5 6 legend (talk) 16:00, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You can do that, yes. It would be best if you would create such a page in your userspace or as a subpage to this talk page. Be sure to follow the WP:BLP policy, as it covers all pages. It would be good to describe on that page what it's purpose is, and then please, post a link to said page here. —Alalch E. 16:05, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Consensus for removal of COVID-19 section
I've added the Covid section (Special:Diff/1024060044/1024851939) in late-May. The case has been dormant and probably forgotten by the media. I propose its removal citing comments by a politician, and that they comment on whole lot of things, most of which are simply politics and non-notable. -- DaxServer (talk) 16:07, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Better to remove as it broadly falls under WP:NOTNEWS. In the Indian legal system, anyone can file an FIR on anyone, so it doesn't amount to much. Only when the court accepts that these charges are valid, it's worth noting. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Arrest in 2019 section
Is it significant because of the massacre of TDP members? Should it be expanded? Or be removed as politicians agitate and are arrested all the time? Unlike Jagan, CBN was never in jail, wasn't he? -- DaxServer (talk) 17:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Moved to Leader of the Opposition (2019-present) section to be in sync with chronological biography as per Criticism -- DaxServer (talk) 11:55, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing from India's Glocal Leader
This section is to discuss content that could be sourced from the book ISBN 9789387146587. -- DaxServer (talk) 18:04, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Siblings
Page #4 [...] Naidu is the eldest of the four siblings and has a younger brother Nara Ramamurthy Naidu and two younger sisters, Rajeswari and Hymavathi. This seems to be okay to source. Should we add names, or simply say a younger brother and two younger sisters him being the eldest? -- DaxServer (talk) 18:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , Nara Ramamurthy Naidu is notable, so it can be added. Names of the sisters are up to discretion per WP:BLPNAME. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:43, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ I skipped the non-notable siblings' names, up to you or others if you want to add. I hope the citation style is correct, this would be my first time citing a book! -- DaxServer (talk) 14:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Using Template:sfn, you can use the source multiple times by changing the relevant page number. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I was wondering what to do with normal Cite book template as it would generate different citations for each time we used a different page! -- DaxServer (talk) 14:58, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Mother's name
Page #4 Born to Nara Kharjura Naidu and Amanamma on 20 April 1950, [...] I think the note in the article stating a spelling variant could be dropped. Do we want to cite this book along with Rediff? -- DaxServer (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Jaggery production
Page #7 Once he got the idea generating income from sugarcane cultivation, Chandrababu and his friends took up jaggery production and sold 75 kgs of jaggery. Could this be sourced as "During his childhood, along with his friends, he sold jaggery for income."? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

BA
BA from Sri Venkateswara Arts College. Page #7 Later, he pursued his degree at Sri Venkateswara Arts College in Tirupati. Looks okay to me. Year 1972 is sourced from Rediff. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I would just use it, with Rediff to source year. -- DaxServer (talk) 15:01, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- DaxServer (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

PhD
Reason for dropping of PhD. Page #8 However, Naidu discontinued his PhD die to his uninhibited interest in student politics. Could this be sourced as "(from article:) ... but did not complete his PhD because of his interests in politics."? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

SVU Economics department
Chairman of SVU Economics department while he was a student. Page #8-9 At that time, the University had 32 departments, and each department had a chairman, elected by the students. In turn, they elect the chairman of the college. Naidu, a student of economics, who was also the chairman of the department, did not contest for the college championship. Instead, he succeeded in getting his man elected and gained an upper hand over his opponents in the student election. Could this be sourced as "During his education at SBU, he was elected as the chairman of the Economics department, in which he is a student of."? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

1977 AP cyclone
Collecting donations for 1977 Andhra Pradesh cyclone. Page #9 Following the 1977 cyclone, which devastated the Diviseema Taluk of Krishna District, he actively collected donations and relief from Chittoor District for cyclone victims. Could this be sourced in Early political career, or an appropriate chronological biographical order? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Lectureship at SVU
Being offered a lectureship at SVU. Page #9-10 Soon after, he left his Alma Mater, Naidu had three options to choose as his career path. [...] Kotha Satchidananda Murthy, a Buddhist scholar, who was serving as the Vice-Chancellor of SVU, offered Naidu lectureship at the university. [...] Finally, he zeroed in on entering active politics as it would give him the opportunity to serve active politics. Could this be sourced as "After he left his Alma Mater at SVU, he was offered a lectureship at the university, which he did not take upon."? The Economic Times source says that he dropped PhD after he become a minister. Perhaps he was offered after his Masters?

-- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

MLC elections (1)
Wanted to contest in MLC elections. Psge #10 By then, the 24-year-old Naidu was growing restless and wanted to try his hand at MLC elections from Teacher's Constituency in Chittoor district. As the minimum age to contest as a public representative was 25, Naidu dropped the idea. This would go into Early political career if sourced, in an appropriate wording. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

MLC elections (2)
1976 MLC election nomination. Page #10 In 1976, when the Council sear fell vacant from the Teacher's Constituency, senior Congress leader N Janardhan Reddy, who later became Chief Minister, had put up his nominee Anam Sanjiva Reddy while Naidu, who was a student leader, filed his nomination. That was when Janardhan Reddy had sent a word to Naidu that he was going to lose the nomination anyway. But, if he withdrew, Janardhan Reddy would help him grow politically at the appropriate time. This time came soon as Reddy suggested Naidu's name to the Congress high command against the wishes of Amarnath Reddy, who was the most influential leader in Chittoor District. Vengal Rao agreed to Naidu's nomination and so did the then Prime Minister of India, Indira Gandhi. To source: that he filed nomination for MLC election, but did not contest? Could "..., but did not contest upon an intimation from Janardhan Reddy", this seems a bit murky. How could it be structured? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Jalagam Vengala Rao
Jalagam Vengala Rao's suggestion to support Zilla Parishad elections. Page #10 (continued from above citation.) During this time, he got an opportunity to meet the then Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Jalagam Vengal Rao, who suggested him to plat an active role in Zilla Parishad (local body) elections. Do we source the interaction with Vengala Rao? The details seem not so strong as the others. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

1978 election: Caste
1978 ticket because of belonging to Kamma (caste). Page #11 The Congress (I) as a strategy, was looking for younger people to take on the stalwarts to counter the Reddy hegemony in the district. As a candidate belonging to the Kamma community, Naidu was chosen and given the ticket. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Caste
Page #11 See above for quote. Could this be sourced as "He belongs to/born in a Kamma family."? -- DaxServer (talk) 11:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * A reading before deciding on this: Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics/Archive 49 -- DaxServer (talk) 18:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Telugu family
Page #11 See above for quote. Could this be sourced for him belonging to/born in a Telugu family? Looks like synthesis to me? -- DaxServer (talk) 11:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Congress (I)
Page #11 See above for quote. This would clear that he joined Congress (I) (Indira Gandhi's), one of the todos in the section above. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Or do we need other source that [explicitly] said he joined Congress (I)? -- DaxServer (talk) 14:21, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

1978 election: Family
Family help for 1978 campaign. Page #11 In his initial years in politics, Naidu's election campaigning included his family's contribution too. While he, along with his brother and cousins, planned strategies [...] his mother woke up early in the morning and prepared sambar rice and curd rice (for party workers). Naidu's sisters rallied girl students from the University in Tirupati [...] Could this be sourced as "He won the 1978 election, with the support during campaigning from his family."? Or "His family supported and campaigned for him." in the 1978 section? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Bill Clinton
Bill Clinton. Page #11 [...] on the other end of the world in the United States, his friend and future President of the United States of America, Bill Clinton (who he was destined to meet), become the Governor of Arkansas in the same year [...] Please put this on-hold until I could gather further details about Clinton in the book. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Admirer of NTR
Page #11-12 He was a huge admirer of Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao's (NTR) movies and adored the top Telugu star. During his term as the minister for cinematography, Naidu met NTR's son Nandamuri Jayakrishna who was a noted cinematographer and exhibitor of the time. He requested Jayakrishna to set up a meeting with NT Rama Rao as he wanted to meet his favourite actor. His fanboy dream came true when Naidu met his future father-in-law [...] Could this be sourced, minus the author's expression of his admiration? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Marriage
Marriage day. Page #12 It was decided that the wedding would be held in Madras (now Chennai), which was the hub if Telugu and Tamil film industry. [...] On 10 September 1981, the day of the wedding, film star, politician and cultural icon of Tamil Nadu MG Ramachandran, a close friend of NTR attended the wedding. The then Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Anjaiah and his cabinet ministers, [...] I see four items that could be sourced: Marriage day. Marriage place. MGR and Anjaiah being one of the guests. NTR and MGR being [close] friends on their articles, if not sourced already, but this is secondary. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Interest to work with NTR
Naidu expressing interest in working with NTR before TDP is formed. Page #13 The final straw came when Rajiv Gandhi, [...], lublicly rebucked Anjaiah at Hyderabad's Begumpet airport [...] This incident led to a public outcry and the demand for Telugus' "atma gauravam" (self-respect of Telugus) was highlighted by NTR. Amidst such political instability in the state, Naidu informed his father-in-law about hhis interest in working with him. However, NTR had convinced Naidu to remain with the Congress as it was an established party and that he was growing in his political career, unline the one he was planning to launch. Could this be sourced? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Untrustworthy views within Congress
Viewed as untrustworthy candidate within the Congress party. Page #13 (continued from above citation.) This period was one of the most testing times for Naidu as he as being viewed as a untrustworthy candidate within the Congress party as his father-in-law was gearing up to launch a new political party. Could this be sourced? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Post 1983 defeat
Return to Tirupati as 1983 defeat. Page #14 In the 1983 election, Naidu lost his bid for re-election to the assembly from the Congress and returned to Tirupati to start a business. Could this be sourced? Details about business were not said. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Joining TDP
Joining TDP. Page #14 (continued from above citation.) After NTR's call in the following year, Naidu joined the TDP to help his father-in-law in strengthening the party. Is that 1983 or 1984? The India Today source infers 1983.

-- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Chandrababu Naidu and YSR Rajasekhar Reddy is are good friends at ministry time in 1970s
It's true fact 123.201.208.175 (talk) 18:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Sources need to be fetched and the article need to be updated. Any help with that? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello @DaxServer, I found the following sources, https://www.deccanchronicle.com/entertainment/tollywood/110820/an-emotional-thriller-on-the-ysr-cbn-relationship.html, https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/ysr-was-my-best-friend-naidu/article28565544.ecehttps://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/ysr-was-my-best-friend-naidu/article28565544.ece, https://www.indiaherald.com/Politics/Read/994551733/These-two-leaders-were-like-one-glass-and-one-bed
 * Might be helpful 4 5 6 legend (talk) 11:18, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @456legend. DC article focuses on the film, rather than the relationship b/w CBN and YSR. The Hindu is a comment from CBN. India Herald article reads like a tabloid. We need better sources — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:22, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, I understand. 4 5 6 legend (talk) 11:24, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Reach to concensus
Kindly reach to the concensus and follow up the previous concensus by the previous editors in another section on this talk page.

Provide sources before adding any content. Disruptive edits are not accepted as per Wikipedia.

Some of the content here is highly questionable since the original content by the previous editors was deleted and replaced by a new editor in his/her tone. And this problem was not addressed at the right time. 4 5 6 legend (talk) 16:26, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello 456legend could you be specific? Which section titles are WP:POV? Invasive Spices (talk) 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey refer to the section "Chief minister of United Andhra Pradesh (1995-2004)" where the content mentioning backstabbing does not provide any proper sources. The sources provided does not cite any such kind of news. Refer to the sources yourself in that section. And title were actually retitled by another user by now so I think there are no more titles that are WP:POV as of now.
 * And to mention please refer to this diff [] where the sourced content was blanked in the name of editing or shortening to provide a summary, I don't any of the summary now. This content was previously added by other users based on the previous consensus on this talk page, please refer to the above sections in this talk page investigate the editing consensus. Which I suppose that the removed sourced content needs to be replaced immediately.
 * Can you answer the reason for section blanking?