Talk:NASA Astronaut Group 20

ESA members of Group 20 ? Really ?
Are you positive that the six astronauts selected recently by ESA are going to be incorporated as International MS into Group 20. I have not read such information anywhere. Although I have read that for the two JAXA guys and the two CSA guys. Hektor (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Pilots?
I understand MBK004's reversion of my dividing the candidates into pilots and mission specialists. Two points, however:


 * The NASA PR refers to the Americans as "astronauts," with no titles given. Shouldn't the first paragraph be changed to reflect this, instead of calling them all mission specialists?
 * What about the template, which does identify three candidates as pilots? YLee (talk) 05:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the template is also wrong because these astronauts are not destined to fly the Space Shuttle, they will fly on Soyuz and Orion spacecraft to the International Space Station. The PLT/MS split was introduced with the advent of the Space Shuttle but is not being continued for the ISS and Constellation programs, so the split in the Astronaut Office is going away, starting with this group. -MBK004 05:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Given the turn the discussions of the Augustine committee are taking, I would not be that sure. Shuttle extension is quite possible now. In addition my understanding is that Orion will retain the CDR, PLT and MS repartition of the roles. On the other hand, I reiterate my question, do you have any source to prove that the six new ESA astronauts - or any subset of this group - are going to be integrated in Group 20 ? Hektor (talk) 06:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)