Talk:NCAA Division I FBS independent schools

Logos
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Notre Dame and the BCS
I don't think it's true that Notre Dame is the only school that can be selected for a BCS at-large bid, it's just that they have a special provision guaranteeing them one if they qualify. To wit, Utah, despite not being in one of the BCS conferences (or being Notre Dame), received a BCS at-large bid. Thus, Army or Navy could also qualify, but they would have to be in the Top 10 or whatever the minimum is. --Cliedl 21:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You are correct in that other schools can be selected for BCS at-large bids, in fact, there are also certain conditions which guarantee a non-BCS school a BCS bid. The distinction however, is that Notre Dame is actually a *member* of the BCS. The BCS is an organization representing the six major conferences and Notre Dame. Other schools, like Utah, Boise State, and Hawai'i, have played in BCS bowl games, but their conferences are not members of the BCS organization. Cogswobble

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Why is AF in MWC but Army and Navy Football are "independent?
Why is Air Force Football in the Mountain West Conference but Army and Navy are independent for football (and in Patriot League for everything else? Why are none of the 3 in the Patriot League for football?


 * Army and Navy are in the Patriot League —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.152.202 (talk) 21:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Army and Navy are in the Patriot League for most sports, but because the Patriot League does not sponsor I-A football, they are independent for football. Air Force would not be in the Patriot League for geographic reasons. 159.153.129.39 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Afds
See Articles for deletion/Notre Dame Fighting Irish football future schedule and Articles for deletion/BYU Cougars future football schedules. Wrad (talk) 17:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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Idaho and New Mexico State
Didn't you know that these two football teams are becoming independent in 2013? Make sure the article mentions both of them. 174.1.237.86 (talk) 01:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The schools are still trying to get some affiliation for 2013, although the odds of them doing so are slim to none. Also, the haven't officially announced their independence. JeffConn (talk) 17:20, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes They have; .. Go Mizzou 00:19, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

College basketball team Navigation templates
Please join discussion at the College Basketball Wikiproject for forming a consensus on the creation of a basic navigation template for college basketball teams. CrazyPaco (talk) 09:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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Location images out of date
Can someone update the location images? As of the 2015 FBS season, 3 schools (Army, BYU, and Notre Dame) are Independents, but the other graphics show Navy still. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Color Massachusetts on InfoBox map
UMass is officially an FBS Independent. Please color in the state on the map. Thank you. DavidSteinle (talk) 21:35, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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BYU as Notre Dame of the West
The claim that BYU became an independent in football so they could be the "Notre Dame of the West" seems to originate with one or two ESPN commentators. I can't find any evidence that anyone affiliated with BYU's athletic department or administration ever expressed any such aspiration, although the phrase "Notre Dame of the West" did turn up at least once in the student newspaper. Certainly, BYU's football program has fallen a little short of the standard set by Notre Dame during the years since the Cougars went independent: they have compiled a pretty good but not great record against mostly lesser-known "mid-major" opposition. BYU and Notre Dame did sign a contract to play 6 games against each other a few years back, but Notre Dame bought out the remainder of the deal after the first two games were played. Also, for whatever it's worth, even though the existence of the BYU TV cable channel was mentioned as one reason why BYU went independent, as of the 2018 season BYU's football games are not being televised on BYU TV. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 15:19, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * One solution is to rephrase the Wikipedia article to make the source of the quote explicit, making it clear that ESPN (or the specific ESPN comentator) used that phrase originally. As the major world-wide outlet of reliable sports media, such statements are probably relevant for this article, but do need direct attribution so as not to speak in Wikipedia's voice.  -- Jayron 32 18:28, 22 October 2018 (UTC)