Talk:NGC 3628

Move

 * see this
 * above vote by user:Hurricane Devon


 * SUPPORT change the name to the real name. It is just a catalogue entry after all 132.205.45.110 19:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Moved, per discussion at the first link above. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 07:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Original source
Who was Sarah? What is the original source for such name of NGC 3628? I see no reasoning in the references that provided Astroguy34. An interesting story was with Mrk 1513. One guy suggested that it was often called "Kate's Quasar". The SIMBAD team then answered: "A full text search on "Kate's Quasar" in the references did not provide any occurence... So somebody was probably confused between a frequently used name in the literature and a nickname frequently used in a group of students... The name "Kate's Quasar" has been definitely removed from Simbad." By the way, the same guy proposed to include NGC 3628 name as "Sarah's galaxy". Nevertheless, this attempt was ignored by SIMBAD team. I also suggest to remove this name from Wikipedia article if the Astroguy34 does not have direct proof of the origin of the name. Orionus (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

One does not need to know the origin of a name or the rationale behind the name to support the claim that it is, in fact, also known as "Sarah's Galaxy". The references cited are not just an isolated group of students, but a wide variety of differing sources on the web. "Sarah's Galaxy" has a much better ring to it than "NGC 3628" anyway. Nevertheless, the question of its origin is interesting and valid. When looking into it, I found this March 2015 Sky & Telescope (pg 24) reference (which has been added to the citations): http://mist.breg.si/MAGAZINES/Assorted%20Magazine%20Bundle%206-January%2015/Sky%20&%20Telescope%20-%20March%202015%20%20USA.pdf:

"NGC 3628 in Leo has two popular nicknames. While many purists bemoan the assignment of these whimsical monikers, I think handles such as Sarah’s Galaxy adds interest to the objects that earn them. “Sarah” might refer to a 19th-century poet, but any definitive, authoritative source for the name seems lost. NASA’s APOD images of NGC 3628 are labeled Hamburger Galaxy, and inevitably some observers will associate the galaxy with that title. Most of us, however, know NGC 3628 as the third and faintest member of the Leo Trio or Leo Triplet."

- Sky & Telescope, March 2015

If it's good enough for Sky & Telescope, it's good enough for me. Astroguy34 (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If You write an article, I think You will always check Wikipedia at first. The author of Sky&Telescope article was not an exception. Sarah might refer to poet, might not... It is just guess until the original source will be provided. Orionus (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree completely that it may not refer to a poet. But I disagree strongly with the implication that you must know the original source at all, much less with certainty, before you can call it something (and I'm in good company as Sky & Telescope seems to agree). I also strongly disagree that the name was published in Sky & Telescope solely (or even primarily) because of this Wikipedia article -- that would be irresponsible. It must also be going off the many other sources for the name that demonstrate it is widespread. I may check Wikipedia when I write something, but I never cite it directly. It seems you're more the purist that bemoans the whimsical moniker. That's fine; you're entitled to your opinion. However, your opinion of the name does not change the fact that, as Sky & Telescope said, it is a "popular nickname", nor does it negate the countless and varied sources showing that it is, indeed, "also known as Sarah's Galaxy." Astroguy34 (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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