Talk:NLite and vLite

Dino Nuhagic (author of nLite) hired by Microsoft
Re: "Removed move to MS part, Forum post cited as proof, heh" in the revision history (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NLite_and_vLite&action=history): note that Dino Nuhagic does show up in the list of people at http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/groups/languages/default.aspx (as of 10-Sep-2011).

Is it really safe?
No source code. Are you sure that this tool does not do anything "extra"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.135.46.166 (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? Fleet Command (talk) 10:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

His concern is the possibility of the software slipstreaming viruses/malware/trojans, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.63.5.134 (talk) 18:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Actively Maintained?
Are nLite and vLite still being actively maintained, does anyone know?

The latest release of nLite is v1.4.9.1, relased on 11/09/2008 (assuming the date is in yyyy/mm/dd format) and vLite is v1.2, released on 12/09/2008 (again, if dates on the site are in yyyy/mm/dd format).

Will there be any future updates does anyone know, or are these now becoming abandonware? 194.116.198.179 (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The developer has stated in the MSFN nLite forum that he was busy with work, the domains nliteos.com and vlite.net no longer work. I say it's abandoned, and not to expect a Windows 7 version. Redxii1234 (talk) 02:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't delete!!!
Please do not delete this page. NLite is an important tool for modifying windows software and creating installation cds. I would have never found out about NLite if not through wikipedia. It would be a mistake to delete this article and not some of the many off the wall ones around wikipedia.

Found this discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/NLite

--Chrisdab 00:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Licence
I have changed the licence for nLite and vLite from "Freeware" to "Non-Commercial Freeware".

Download either of the software and read the licence presented during the install. It clearly states:
 * "1. nLite is freeware and can be freely used for any personal non-commercial purposes, subject to the following restrictions."
 * "5. nLite is free for personal use only, you cannot use it for any company or business purposes at this time." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.116.199.218 (talk) 11:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Who's changed the licence to "Proprietary Freeware"? It may be proprietary but it's not fully freeware! I suggest "Proprietary Freeware (No Corporate Use)" or similar. 86.157.158.112 (talk) 21:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey there. Just be WP:BOLD and change it :) and mention in the edit summary why you changed it. Rror (talk) 00:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

TinyXP
It isn't clear why TinyXP redirects to nLite, which is technically a "competing" product. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.71.113.88 (talk) 10:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * tinyXP is a pre-compiled XP installation disc, with a batch file that runs nLite automatically. nLite requires that you have an XP disc to modify, tinyXP provides the disc and files. Hans404 (talk) 08:03, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, TinyXP would not exist without nLite. It's so tiny because its base is nLited. There's even a 'LastSession.ini' file included with each TinyXP distribution. TinyXP isn't warez, but isn't exactly legal either. YourSuperior 17:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * But this article doesn't even mention TinyXP at all, yet there's the redirect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.15.136 (talk) 18:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Using nLite for slipstreaming
As far as I know, nLite is the tool of choice for easy slipstreaming. I do a fair amount of server administration at several companies, and I've noticed that if a system has no floppy drive, you'd often need to slipstream drivers onto a Windows CD to even install the stuff. All admins that I know would just grab nlite off of the web for this, or just have it permanently installed. Even for "regular" users, slipstreaming might be a better option than using a floppy drive.

Besides this specific application, the whole nlite article seems to be written by an "I don't want to have to put up with any MS bloatware" anti-microsoft-ionist POV. However, this is just one application. Another would be for System admins, to create Windows CD's with stuff like product key, admin password, installation options, etc already built in, to make for easy windows reinstalling.

removing unwanted windows components article
I would propose that we create an article headlined as something like "removing unwanted windows programs" (or anything fitting this basic topic description), this can be merged with "removing internet explorer" article. While the individual programs used to remove unwanted parts of windows are mostly non-notable, the topic and phrase iteslf is notable considering current Microsoft trends with uninstallable programs like IE, Outlook, etc. In this article I propose the discussion of those specific components normally unremoveable from Windows. In addition we can easily merge all articles about programs like this into a single topic. Forwarding a user to the "removing unwanted windows programs" article from a search of "nlite" or similar programs like "xplite", etc.

I would propose an article format as follows:

Headline: (whatever is chosen to describe this topic)

Description: (short descrition of the topic/opener)

History: (this will note the history of this topic/when microsoft {and other companies} began this habit, user reaction, etc)

Security issues: (note on the fact that these programs have known security issues/problems causing a problem for people desiring to avoid these issues, but being unable to delete them)

MS EULA: (a mention of how removing these programs in this way is in violation to the MS EULA)

List of programs: (a list, with short descriptions and their current status, of all the known programs created to remove components)

Links: (related articles and related sites)

--SomeGuy1969 07:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me that the links to Bold-Fortune and the actual paragraph containing his purported thoughts are nothing more than website spam. A more neutrol POV in relation to this seems to be a better solution, although the link to Bold-Fortune's guide should not be deleted (unless this causes a cascade of similar articles being added) 24.148.194.197 21:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Written Like an Ad
This is written like an ad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.97.162.48 (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My issue is that the article only describes the positives of nlite. I've used it extensively and have created a lot of coasters in the process because many combinations of component removal render the install CD useless. Also, the various releases of nlite have had bugs that later releases fixed, so the latest release no doubt has bugs too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Candybar2 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Notability
Are these 2 apps notable? If they have street cred then that would spread via blogs and forums. Wikipedia is not a software catalog. I don't see why these pages should exist, being written in an advert-like format and addressing the user directly. Anyone to contest this? -- Tom Jenkins (reply) 14:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not prepared yet to say whether this subject is notable or not, but in light of the article's long editing history since it was recreated after a 2006 AfD, I do think it would be more appropriate to have this go through AfD rather than WP:PROD. This article is linked from a number of other articles, and GBooks and GNews do turn up a number of hits, suggesting that this software may have been notable in the past.  It's also possible that there are better options than deletion, such as a redirect/merge to an article such as Removal of Internet Explorer.  Given all these considerations, I don't think PROD is the way to go, although an AfD may well be appropriate. --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:50, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * How about merging all of these random OS remastering app articles into a single article where they can be discussed fairly and without paying too much attention to either? I'll add content into said article and wait for the community response regarding the deletion/redirection of these articles. -- Tom Jenkins (reply) 07:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I've completely merged all the Windows OS remastering articles (98lite, nLite and vLite, Autostreamer, XPLite, DriverPacks, and HFSLIP) into Software remastering. I hope everything looks fine. -- Tom Jenkins (reply) 08:28, 16 October 2012 (UTC)