Talk:NYPD Blue/Archives/2015

Homicide
What about making a link with the Show Homicide, since both shows are quite based on the same line and have been widely compared? --Lvr 11:24, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Too little information...
I don't think this says much about the show other than it was profane and contained nudity. I personally never really got into the show and would like to know more about it. Can anyone help us out here? 69.17.59.230 01:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

City of New York
Why is there a city of New York box at the bottom of the article? This is about the fictional series, not the real New York City Police Department. Captain Jackson 20:09, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * This doesn't make any sense to me, either. I shall remove it.  Equalpants 03:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Unsourced statement
"The show's "bad language" and partial nudity garnered more public controversy than its tacit approval of police brutality." Where did this come from? --rogerd 17:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, doesn't seem very NPOV. Will let others have their say before removal though. Seaphoto 22:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's accurate, but it's the type of thing that would be hard to cite support for unless someone else made the same observation. Maybe just citing to sources regarding the nudity and profanity, as contrasted with a lack of comment on the other issue.  Though I think it would be better to describe it as the show's "portrayal of police brutality" rather than its "tacit approval."  How does a show express "approval"?  Postdlf 03:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * A show expresses "approval" by giving positive outcomes to actions. The bad guys (only) get beaten up, and it means they confess to their crimes and go to jail. They never get the wrong man put the screws on him and make him confess to something he has not done and put an innocent man in prison. No one gets in trouble or censured for violence. I did see one episode where they got a man to confess to a murder he did not commit, but he was a "bad person" so that was ok. I would say it goes beyond portrayal and has the message that "it is a tough world out there, sometimes you have to do things like this to get the job done and thats ok". In the real world police brutality has some nasty side effects, if the show never shows those then the show is approving brutality. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.253.4.164 (talk • contribs) 07:20, August 9, 2007 (UTC)
 * Is this your opinion, or is this something that comes from acknowledged authority on this show? If the former is true, it doesn't belong here, and if the latter is true, you need to cite the source.  Wikipedia is not a blog, it is an encyclopedia.  --rogerd 14:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.amazon.ca/NYPD-Blue-Season-1/dp/B00007I6FP] "Halfway through, police brutality was introduced, and the constant beating up of suspects, which the series appeared to condone". Not really a good enough citation. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1295/is_n12_v61/ai_20078646
 * "In NYPD Blue, [snip] I resent being manipulated by the insistent claim that no guilty party will ever confess without a few slaps from Detective Sipowicz. And I do not appreciate the message that the Fourth and Fifth Amendments are dispensable." The comments on "Brooklyn south" (also made by Steven Ronald Bochco) in that article were even more damming "The show wants you, the hapless viewer, to be understanding of--even sympathetic to--police brutality". Susan Douglas http://cms.lsa.umich.edu/comm/detail/0,2005,4128%255Farticle%255F8705,00.html must count as a acknowledged authority. To return to the original point. The disclaimer they had initially went"This police drama contains adult language and scenes with partial nudity. Viewer discretion is advised." (http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/N/htmlN/nypdblue/nypdblue.htm), wheras as you have noted there was much less outcry about the regular police brutality depicted. So we have a reputable authority claiming that the regular beating of suspects is commonly depicted on the show, and shown as necessary to the smooth functioning of the police force. And we have plenty of evidence of a far wider outcry over the language and nudity depicted. The language and nudity required a pre showing warning the brutality did not. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
 * How about "The show has also been criticized for depicting violence against suspects as a routine and necessary part of police work (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1295/is_n12_v61/ai_20078646)" at the end of the controversy section.

Gordon Clapp
It is suggested at the seminal NYPD Blue site,that, as Clapp appeared in episode 3 he should be considered to be a main cast member from season one. (Pally01 22:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC))


 * Except that Clapp was only a "day player" during the first season, only appearing in 17 of that season's 22 episodes. --Cardinal biggles 23:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Normally I would agree with him only being recurring, but the character stayed in the series all the way through, barring the first two episodes, and has been regarded as a major character from season one. Also, Jack Coleman in Heroes was only a guest star until episode 13 but is still considered to be a main cast member. Again see for more info. (Jackofalltradesmasterofnone 12:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC))

"Four phases"?
These new edits by User:Vsmakrock seem highly POV to me, overly long, and filled with interpretation. I have never heard the show being discussed as having "four phases" and no citation is provided for the phrase. The whole thing is just a mess. Any thoughts? ---Charles 05:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * You may as well call it the four partners. It is POV and needs some major rewriting. The genius period of Caruso. What's that all about? (Quentin X 07:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC))
 * "Genius" indeed... ---Charles 18:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to do some major reworking of this article and make it sound less like a POV review and more in line with other articles on TV programmes. If you come across it while it is in a working stage, please don't fiddle with it until I'm done. Thanks (Quentin X 10:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC))

Petition for DVD Release
Hello, is it possible to add this link http://www. petitiononline. com/nypdblue/ to the NYPD Blue article? The petition is to collect signatures to get Fox to release the next four seasons (5, 6, 7 and 8). This isn't meant to be an ad but every fan should put his / her signature into the list. Knalla 16:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am afraid that would violate wikipedia policy on external links. Also when you add a new topic in a talk page, please add it to the end of the page.  Thanks.  --rogerd 17:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you be more specific which policy exactly is violated? Maybe then there could be a paragraph about the petition, e.g. NYPD Blue fans try to release the next DVD seasons? Thanks for your help. Knalla 12:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Here are a couple of things from wikipedia policy on external links:
 * Such pages could contain further research that is accurate and on-topic - this link provides no information about the topic
 * No page should be linked from a Wikipedia article unless its inclusion is justified.
 * ...there is a great temptation to use Wikipedia to advertise or promote links. This includes both commercial and non-commercial sites.
 * Avoid undue weight on particular points of view
 * Also, looking at WP:SPAM:
 * Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam.
 * --rogerd 16:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks to take the effort to clarify this for me. I don't like spam, too. Knalla 17:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Detective Kelly Ronson
played by Jessalyn Gilsig (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0319698/), appeared in the last 5 episodes of Season 11, but I cannot find her on any of the Wikipedia pages for NYPD Blue characters. She filled the gap between Detectives Connie McDowell (Charlotte Ross) and Laura Murphy (Bonnie Somerville). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.174.63.225 (talk • contribs) 05:01, June 1, 2007 (UTC)


 * Gilsig was only ever listed as a guest star during her time on the show. For one reason or another she didn't work out, so they replaced her with Somerville for the final season. The cast list is only for those who were in the opening credits at one point or another. --Cardinal biggles 23:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Repetition
At the end of the Production and Crew section, one will find the following paragraph:


 * Dennis Franz, as Andy Sipowicz, a veteran New York City Police detective, played the show's main character. His principal co-stars included David Caruso as Det. John Kelly (1993-1994), Jimmy Smits as Det. Bobby Simone (1994-1998), Rick Schroder as Det. Danny Sorenson (1998-2001) and Mark-Paul Gosselaar as Det. John Clark Jr. (2001-2005). Each was paired with Franz's Sipowicz, providing a younger and more suave foil to the abrasive, tragedy-prone detective.

Given that all of these characters, and the actors that played them, are named and thoroughly discussed earlier in the article, is there any legitimate reason to repeat that information in this section? --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  01:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Casting Issues

 * Gail O'Grady does no come back during the fourth season as Donna Abandando, and Gordon Clapp as Greg Metavoy is a recurring star in the first season. I have tried to fix this, yet it keeps getting changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.76.102 (talk) 02:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with the Gail O'Grady issue and realise that Gordon Clapp missed five of the first seasons episodes. However if you look at the above section on Gordon Clapp you will see the arguement for having him as a regular for season one. (Quentin X 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC))

Trivia
I'm not usually against trivia sections, but the trivia section on this page is very poorly done. Much of the trivia could be in a "Cultural References" section, while most of the other trivia is too trivial to even warrant its placement. Tithonfury (talk) 22:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series
I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 17:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Police terminology
Shouldn't terms like "P.A.A." and "Anti-Crime" be defined if they are going to be sprinkled throughout the article? They keep getting used but there is no reference to what they actually mean. If it doesn't matter, then they should be deleted. If they do matter, they should be defined or wiki-linked.68.145.185.64 (talk) 00:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

What is an Anti-Crime Unit: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pr/videos.shtml  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.81.49 (talk) 05:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Shaky camera
Who's idea was this? What was the intention behind it? Is this the only show to feature this technique? Danceswithzerglings (talk) 05:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia link to all episodes info is missing:
Currently, there isn't a link on this page to Season 4, 5, 6 - 12. (Only to Season 1, 2 &3.) So it mistakenly appears Wikipedia just hasn't got that info. Actually there are Wikipedia pages that do list all the episodes in each season. For instance - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYPD_Blue_(season_4) So, there's just a link or two missing. At the bottom off this Season 4 page is a listing of all the other Seasons that are elsewhere in Wikipedia. Season 1 Season 2 Season 3 Season 4 Season 5 Season 6 Season 7 Season 8 Season 9 Season 10 Season 11 Season 12

(I would make this basically clerical revision to the page if I knew how, but I don't. Still,its absence confused me for a while. That's why I'm mentioning it.)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.0.96 (talk) 08:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Controversy
"In 2005, L. Brent Bozell III told Time that the nudity on the series influenced him to establish the Parents Television Council, in which he served as president from 1995 to 2006."

How did he serve as president from 1995 to 2006 when he established it in 2005?

So I work on articles for Illinois legislators because articles on elected officials below the national level seem to really suffer in quality. A woman named Laura Murphy was recently appointed to the Illinois Senate. There is an NYPD Blue character named Laura Murphy who has an article that takes the title Laura Murphy. I was hoping to move Laura Murphy to Laura Murphy (NYPD Blue). I took the liberty of creating a Laura Murphy (NYPD Blue) article. It currently links in. Is there anyway I can get sign off to do this? I plan to do it per Wikipedia policy, but I wanted input from anyone with interest in the show.