Talk:Nabucco/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: GeneralPoxter (talk · contribs) 18:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Will probably start this sometime this weekend.

Sorry about the delay!

Lead/ibox

 * was a more important source for Solera than was the play itself. -> "was a more important source for Solera than the play itself."
 * Probably not necessary to link "play" in the lead body
 * Maybe put "Va, pensiero, sull'ali dorate" / "Fly, thought, on golden wings" in parentheses
 * all done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

1. Composition history

 * Should probably fix the incomplete short-ref issue for Lessona; I don't have access to Budden, so I'm not sure what the shortref for Lessona should look like.
 * I wrote a full citation for Lessona (found here) and use the two together.
 * I made some edits on more minor issues
 * thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

2. Performance history

 * In the US it appeared at the Astor Opera House in New York on 4 April 1848. It should probably be mentioned whether this is the US premiere?
 * I believe the authors thought that was clear without adding a "first". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Nabucco was presented by the Michigan Opera Theatre...surrounding the Old City of Jerusalem. These appear to be missing inline cites.
 * Michigan: https://www.mlive.com/entertainment/saginaw/2009/02/michigan_opera_theatre_offers.html / https://www.pr.com/press-release/179711 / review: https://www.downriversundaytimes.com/2009/10/24/%E2%80%98nabucco%E2%80%99-debuted-at-detroit-opera-house/
 * Israel 2015: https://www.israel-opera.co.il/eng/?CategoryID=723&ArticleID=2012 / blog review: https://klassik-begeistert.de/giuseppe-verdi-nabucco-the-opera-festival-jerusalem-the-israeli-opera-tel-aviv-yafo-20-juni-2019/ / review: https://www.operanews.com/Opera_News_Magazine/2015/7/Reviews/TEL_AVIV__Nabucco.html / better review: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/mp/9460447.0009.103/--nabucco-in-zion-place-metaphor-and-nationalism-in-an-israeli?rgn=main;view=fulltext
 * Israel 2019: review: https://www.opera-online.com/de/columns/helmutpitsch/nabucco-in-jerusalem-die-richtige-oper-am-rechten-ort
 * What would you suggest to use? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I would probably suggest the Sunday Times for Detroit and the Israeli Opera website for Jerusalem. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 17:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I took the 2 and the 2019 one for that fact --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

4. Synopsis

 * "O dischiuso è il firmamento" could use an English translation
 * I used what my translator gave me. Possibly there's something different in case sung in English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Added a few links, but overall, the Synopsis reads well

5. Historicity

 * ...but the proper name of the deity is Marduk... Unsure of this wording; is "proper" the term used in the original source?
 * I can't see the original source. Looking at the two links (Bel and Marduk), it seems that there is a more complex relationship than just two names, but that's probably not relevant to the opera article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, then maybe something like "related to the deity Marduk" might be more appropriate than saying "the proper name of the deity is Marduk"? GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 17:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * taken --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

6. Critical reception

 * ...and, today, he has become comparatively obscure. Not sure if this detail is necessary/relevant to the discussion of critical reception.
 * following, cut --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Nabucco secured Verdi's success. A large part of this paragraph quoted from a contemporary criticism of Nabucco, but it would be nice if contemporary praise were also quoted to reflect the overall positive reception.
 * Well, it made him the leading composer at the time, but then more famous works followed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Should probably mention "Immenso Jehova" sung in Act 4?
 * done --GA
 * At Verdi's funeral however, the crowds in the streets spontaneously broke into "Va, pensiero". According to Phillips-Matz 2004 as cited in the Verdi article, there was also a chorus directed by Toscanini that sang Va pensiero. Should probably include that as well.
 * good idea --GA
 * I tried some reorganization
 * thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Judgement
Few yet-to-be-addressed concerns, but overall, the article is ready to be a GA. Article is well-written, verifiable, broad, and neutral. I will put this on hold until March 26. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 17:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Please check again, GeneralPoxter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments and edits. Passing. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 00:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)