Talk:Nador (caste)

Nadavaru are not Bunt/Nair
Nadavaru are not bunt/nair and in anyways connected to these communities.most important they are not matrilineal,neither are they of nagavanshi kshatriya descent and worship serpents which is integral to bunt/nair/tulu jains identity.they are also vaishnava unlike bunt/nair who are shaktas.bunts prefer to call themselves bunts and not naadava naadava just means landlord in tulu and other people especially the tenants call them naadava as a form of respect.nadavaru might also be landlord in north canara but that does not mean they are bunts.there is no proof to show this.bunt/nair nadavaru customs are completely different.this article is complete falsehoodLinguisticgeek (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 09:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC). October 20, 2007: The article on Nadavaru is expanded with a new title Nadavara. Many facts are from authentic Indian History books that are difficult for me to refer. So I have discussed with two historians in India. According to me it is well written.

November 28, 2007: Hello Kathy A,

After I read the article on Nadavaru and your concerning remarks of November 2006, I decided to edit your publication as you requested. The title of the article Nadavaru is a slang used for Nadavara, just like Brit for British or Swede for Swedish. I immediately changed the title from Nadavaru to ‘‘Nadavara’’, which is the correct nomenclature. The previous article "Nadavaru" was half a page and was not thoroughly researched. The Wikipedia article, (Nadavaru?) was completely deleted due to its irrelevance on the topic. I compiled the new article on Nadavara with the help of a historian along with my own research on the topic. The new article on Nadavara is also published elsewhere. So far I have received good feedbacks on the article, especially from the historian.

The artical on Nadavara is well liked by many people who read it. Under "Ethnic groups of India it may be too long. Can it be published under a different category?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sikanjal (talk • contribs) 20:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Nadavaru/Nador caste and Bunts/Nairs are same. We can verify by their language known as Nador bhashe which is similar to Malayalam and Tulu. Nadavaru community people also worship the Serpents in special small temple of Serpent which almost all Nadavaru family has. In the Shreenivasa Kalyanotsava festival time Nadavaru community people invited the Guru of Bunts community Shree Santosh Guruji and accepted them as Guru and united with Bunts. Shamant Nayak (talk) 15:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Notability, sources
Sikanjal: The write up will be shortened by at least 50% with in next few days.

The notability of the subject is currently unclear, since no sources are cited. By the notability criteria, independent reliable sources are required to make sure that the subject is notable. These sources might be press articles or books, for example. The sources may, but need not, be available online; it is however important that they are explicitly cited.

'''External links have been doccumented. Please check it out.'''

Content on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable. If the article remains completely unsourced, it might get deleted.

The article "Nadavaru" is fully documented on reliable sources.

For the time being, I am replacing the “importance” tag with “notability”. Sorted as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 19:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Please reexamine the issues on "Nadavaru" which is rewritten as per the Wikipedia request with in last two weeks .

The no refence tags keep getting deleted on this article. The article looks typical of an unreferenced article with peacock terms. Please do not delete the tags as there are no references except the external links section, which is not counted as references according to WP policy.Nambs (talk) 07:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Why delete the article Sikanjal? It is better to restore the content and add references. Just because one user summarizes his knowledge of the Nadavara community on this page, does not mean it should be taken as fact and not require references. However the pre-existing content should be included until improved in any case.Nambo (talk) 12:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Nambiar,

I do not know how I got involved in this. Nadavara is exclusively one-person article. The historian who wrote the article (edited by me) is in the process of publishing a book on Nadavara in Kanad. She does not like to be questioned as it may reflect on her book in progress. I will talk to the historian who lives in India. Actually, I may visit the historian to collect her thoughts on Mughals, on my next trip to Goa, India. Please bear with me. We will try to do the right thing. Thank you.

Sikanjal.

Hello Nambiar,

I do not know your subject matter expertise. What do you know about Nadavara of Karnataka? If you do not have adequate knowledge about the subject, please do not edit. Partial or incomplete writing may not justify its value in Vikipedia. And also you may even offend the members of that community. I already received complaints from the original author of the article about your edits. The ineffective editing would certainly dissatisfy the people who can relate to the article. Currently, your deletion of the sentences has affected the continuity of the subject matter and the flow of the narration of the article. What shall we do now? My recommendation is to wait for the fully edited article or we may lose the historian who wrote it. Jan 19, 2008.

Sikanjal

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sikanjal (talk • contribs) 18:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.182.179.16 (talk) 22:51, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I merely removed the point of view (POV) statements from an earlier version, and restored the article, I have added nothing to it. If this author is angry at me trying to edit the article according to WP policy, maybe he/she should consider privately releasing such information as Wikipedia is a public encycopedia and I also suggest reading a bit more about the terms POV and WP policy on articles, if he/she wishes to have his/her content on this encyclopedia. There is also the matter of references.Nambo (talk) 01:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe "Nadavaru" or "Nadavar" is well written to me. But it is your call. It is the same thing.

- R. Naik, February 2, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.211.35 (talk) 15:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

About article on Nadavara
hi, being a member of community i would like to inform the person whoever edited the article on "NADAVARU" which s based on community residing in Ankola and surrounding areas about some facts 1)the original Title Nadavaru is a proper one and info given in original article is a facts please do not mixup the communities for the sake of it. Please make nessary corrections —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scgaonkar (talk • contribs) 18:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Mr. R Naik

Please do not mention names, as pride of individual authorship is totally forbidden by Wikipedia. In addition the original write up on Nadavara in both Kannada and English has been circulated within Nadavara community by the author a year ago.

Sikanjal

Dear Mr. Sikanjal,

What names are you refereing here. Who is the author originally? Do we find him/her here as a contributor (editing history). Did the community accept the aricle with the current title " Nadavara". As i know the title is wrong. Let me know the details little bit so that I can reach out the community there. Thanks for the update and the suggestion.

70.110.219.6 (talk) 00:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I donot know lots of lots of things about Nadavara. I believe Nadavara is the correct Title for this. Sorry for the confusion caused. The article looks good. Changed RNaik100 to Raj 01:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)   Changed  RNaik100 to Raj 01:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Changed RNaik100 to Raj 01:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability
This is the standard Wikipedia heading and should remain. Generally, but not exclusively, notable alumni have Wikipedia articles but, if they do not, then at least their connection with the school/place should be sourced as should a claim to notability. Please do not add them back without agreement, here.

This is the standard Wikipedia heading and should remain. Generally, but not exclusively, notable alumni have Wikipedia articles but, if they do not, then at least their connection with the school should be sourced as should a claim to notability. Please do not add them back without agreement, here. TerriersFan (talk) 00:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

JRN08 (talk) 21:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

IP address 117.97.39.226 Notability
The IP address 117.97.39.229 address added the following names, but there were no articles on them in Wikipedia. They were deleted and reverted back to what it was previously. We look forward to seeing articles on them.

Notable people from the Nadavara community = Sa.Pa.Gaonkar*V.B.Gaonkar*B.V.NAYAK.*M.H.NAYAK*Dr.N.R.Nayak*V.J.Nayak*Smt.Shanti Nayak*Nirmala Gaonkar*Shantaram Nayak,hichkad*B.Honnappa,bhavikeri*M.K.nayak,maskeri*Krishna Nayak,Hichkad*Prin.K.G.Nayak*Justice.S.R.Nayak*V.H.Nayak,gonehalli* Smt.Vinaya Nayak,maskeri*Shridhar Nayak,belekeri*P.S.Gaonkar

Ramananda Nayak*D.N.Nayak*R.N.Nayak JRN08 (talk) 23:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - It is noticed that the three of them you sugested above have articles on Wikipedia. I belive they are V.H. Nayak,  Justice S. R. Nayak and  D. N. Nayak. We look forward to seeing articles on the remaining ones. That would help us to add all of them. Thanks.

IP address 59.92.133.220
Your entires are reversed. See the reasons given above - must have articles. JRN08 (talk) 16:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC) JRN08 (talk) 14:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

These two are deleted as we did not find articles for them on wiki

 * Maskeri Honnappanna
 * Dinesh Neelkant Gaonkar

You may put back these two if you write wiki pages for them in the future. Thanks. --Athos, Porthos, and Aramis (talk) 00:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

must be a single person to be called as notable
--Donotask-donottell (talk) 11:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Nadavaru article tagged
Nadavaru show no relation to bunts/nairs.all the citations added in the article are about Bunts who are also called Nadava not nadavara.the kosar tribe is about bunts not nadavara.nadavara have no cultural affinity with bunts or nairs.they are not serpent worshippers, nagavanshis kshatriyas,they are also not matrilineal.Bunts do not see them as related because there is no cultural affinity either language or customs.Nadava is a term used more by kundapura bunts and not tuluva bunts.kundapura bunts worship serpents,practice bhuta kola and matrilineality.they are nada bunts.nadavaru are not related to either bunts or nairs.this confusion about nadava and nadavaru needs to be clearedLinguisticgeek (talk) 14:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Links reference in this aticle are either from mirror sites or related to bunt nair communities not nadavara
reference cited are all wrong and are for bunt nairs and mirror sites of wikipedia.this article needs citations.all connection customs etc mentioned are original research i beleive linksLinguisticgeek (talk) 15:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Notable people

 * Dilip P. Gaonkar
 * Gopal H. Gaonkar
 * SAPA. Gaonkar
 * Bala Saheb
 * Niranjan K. Naik
 * R. B. Naik
 * Gati Saheb
 * G. P. Nayak
 * Subray R. Nayak

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Copyedit
I've carried out an extensive copyedit of the article. Much of the article relates to the customs of members of the caste. I've removed some of the more extraneous content, however, argubably, almost all of it is more relevant to members of the Hindu community in general rather than just members of the caste. I also think that the translations may not be correct, which is why so few references can be found. I was able to find one reference and have added it. Arguably, much of the article content could be further deleted. Coldupnorth (talk) 08:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)