Talk:Nagpur orange

Merge discussion
Nagpur orange is a variety of citrus fruit recently recognized with a geographical indication, and the city of Nagpur is nicknamed "Orange City". Furthermore, there are a few publications that discuss the oranges of Nagpur, such as A Dictionary of the Economic Products of India, first published in 1889 and still in (digital) print. Nevertheless, the article is currently a stub with decidedly non-neutral point of view. I found several publications calling Nagpur "Orange City", but only a handful describing the fruit itself. The fruit might be notable, but in its current state I think the article could best be merged to Nagpur pending better sourcing and expansion. (Alternately, it could be merged with Mandarin orange, which currently lists several cultivars.) Cnilep (talk) 02:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was agreeing at first, but it looks like it is an informally named but distinct and popular variety of the mandarin orange, Citrus reticulata. Here are 2 searches with lots of results for fleshing out the article: 1 2. So one possibility might be to keep the article and rename to Nagpur mandarin, and set Nagpur orange as a redirect there.--Tom Hulse (talk) 20:08, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as is or move to Nagpur mandarin (although in common parlance it is typically referred to as NO, but scientific publications tend to favor the NM name) or if a merge is absolutely necessary then the target should be Mandarin orange, not the city. There are a fair few scientific publications dealing with this particular variety:, , , , etc etc as well as mainstream coverage of research and development around this variety:  etc, it also has a Geographical indication tag  etc, there's sufficient coverage to improve it, but I can't make head or tail of biological terms, so I'll let someone more capable do that. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:24, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * As is often the case with foodstuffs, it's not clear exactly what the term refers to. It seems to be a group of cultivars grown around Nagpur rather than a specific cultivar. I would myself favour deleting the article, but otherwise merge with Mandarin orange. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:36, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a good description. Perhaps a cultivar group that has not been yet formally described, but is very widely used. I would lean towards trying to keep something here, since I believe there really is a distinct group of plants here with definable characteristics per voluminous sources, and it is an important Asian crop with quite a bit of serious scientific study done on them. --Tom Hulse (talk) 17:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm against the merger. I think it has it's own notability. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:05, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree too that both are different topics and should trade under different page names. --sanketholey (talk) Sanket 00:39, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the merger. Both topics are distinct. Piyushdan (talk) 10:12, 31 August 2014 (UTC)