Talk:Nailsea and Backwell railway station

Fact checking before GA

 * 'Free' car park? There's a free car park left on the UK network?  Andy Dingley (talk) 09:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yup, Nailsea is a free parking zone. Technically the station's in Backwell, but same difference. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Opening
I'd add something about the opening of the line. At present we have the opening date of the station (14 June 1841, which I've verified in Butt), but no indication of whether the line opened at the same time, or if the line was already open and the opening of this station was somehow delayed. Something like "The first sections of the B&E, those between Bristol and Bridgwater and the branch to Weston-super-Mare, opened on 14 June 1841. Nailsea was one of the original stations; it was the first one after Bristol, and the next was Yatton (then known as Clevedon Road)". -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Photo
I'd like to add this flickr photo to the article. The flickr user is clearly not copyright holder, so his all rights reserved is pointless. It is pre-1907, so good chance of PD, but can't really know without knowing the author. I've seen lots of this sort of photo/postcard around, does anyone know where they come from? -mattbuck (Talk) 13:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The handwritten text in white (which would be written in black on the negative) suggests to me that it's not a postcard, but one of the GWR's official photos. As such, it might not have been published. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:05, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Postcards commonly had such annotations too. Nor did the GWR generally identify GWR stations as such - it was either just implicit, or on promotional material it was made a stronger feature of.
 * Has Matt got in touch with the Flickr uploader? I have a vague recollection they're on WP anyway. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I commented on the photo, shall try a flickrmail. But I don't think they're the copyright holder, so their relicensing would just be flickrwashing. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:13, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind, he has replied to me: Its a copy of a postcard by Garrott, purchased on eBay, Sorry, no more information available.. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:14, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The issue is now, assuming this Garrott is the photographer, when did they die? Needs to be 70 years for PD. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:14, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Per Carl Lindberg at commons:Commons:Village_pump/Copyright, we have to wait until 2017. Curse the UK's lack of a "70 years since publication" PD term. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

(od) From a list of Bristol photographers:

Garratt, John William 1910, 9 Station Road, Ashley Down Road 1947 Last entry

Garrett, John William 1905 9 Station Road, Ashley Down Road 1909 Last entry

Garrott, Garratt, Garrett? --Ning-ning (talk) 08:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Garr*tt of Ashley Down is a well-known Bristol photographer. If you go and talk to the postcard dealer at the top of Christmas Steps, they've got plenty. I don't know their dates though. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Renamed in 1974?
I'm more than a little uneasy about the claim in Oakley and Butt (did one copy the other, perhaps?) that the station was renamed 'Nailsea' in 1974. Neither source gives a date for it reverting to 'Nailsea and Backwell'.

I've looked through a number of railway magazines from 1974 but couldn't find a mention of the name change, but I did find timetables in 1977 and 1978 using 'Nailsea and Backwell'. I haven't been able to turn up a 1974 timetable just yet... Geof Sheppard (talk) 16:39, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * All 12 editions of S.K. Baker Rail Atlas Great Britain and Ireland show either "Nailsea & Backwell" or "Nailsea and Backwell". -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:16, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Nailsea and Backwell railway station → Nailsea & Backwell railway station – Station is named with ampersand per Great Western Railway and National Rail thus article name should reflect per MOS:&. Madditron (talk) 01:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC) <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support. The parish council and North Somerset council consistently use "and" but nearly everything else, including station signage, uses the ampersand making it the clear common name. Thryduulf (talk) 09:29, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Ampersands are generally best expanded unless they are exclusively used. See WP:AMPERSAND. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:18, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Ampersands are so 2005. Irrespective of what the official name is I don't see the benefit or value having "&" over "and" - Means the same thing and does the same job. – Davey 2010 Talk 23:30, 31 May 2023 (UTC)