Talk:Najibullah Zazi

Some things the article might want to reflect
some things the article might want to reflect:

1. The FBI handwriting expert has not made a final determination and needs to see original documents.

2. The criminal complaint does not mention terrorist training camps, only the DOJ press release does, and presumably the FBI agents' affidavits, which have not been been made public, AFAIK.

3. The authorities say that the bombmaking notes were found on Zazi's computer, but the criminal complaint places them as attachments on emails in what are presumably webmail accounts, which would mean they were on the webmail service's servers, not Zazi's computer, or possibly in both places.

4. The criminal complaint says that the bombmaking notes were sent to three email accounts controlled by Zazi, from a fourth unidentified account. Softshells (talk) 23:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * These are all good points.


 * I have wondered what language these handwritten notes were written in. If they were written in a language Zazi was not literate in, that would be a pretty good sign he didn't write them.  Who makes handwritten notes, and then keeps an image file of them, rather than transcribing them into machine readable form, anyhow?
 * This is pure speculation on my part, but one reason to keep images of a note rather than typing them in could be to prevent a text search of the computer's files from turning up the images. I'm more interested in the part where they are email attachments though.  One could send anyone an email with an image attachment of how to make a bomb (or any other illegal activity of your choice), and most people would then have their email program (outlook, thunderbird, etc) download it, and it's suddenly on your hard drive. ''-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.72.140.63 (talk • contribs) 10:43, 2009 September 26


 * Attachments? So they might have been attached to junk-mail he never even read?  In March 2002 Pakistani security officials lead their US colleagues on a series of raids of "suspected safe houses", in Faisalabad.  One of the houses they raided was described as suspicious, because it was full of foreigners.  The captives had what seemed like a pretty good explanation for that.  They were University students, and the house was the University's dormitory for foreign students.  In their later annual reviews some of these men had junk mail they received used as a justification for their continued detention.  Geo Swan (talk) 11:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Explanation
Years ago I used to put the full birthdate in articles, when it had been published.

Subsequently the wikipedia adopted a policy on biographies of living persons. Out of concerns to protect private individuals from identity threat we now don't normally give the full month and day of birth, when just the year of birth is sufficient.

It shouldn't matter whether an individual is strongly suspected of plotting terrorism, or even if they convicted. We should extend the same protection against identity theft to them as we would to any other individual.

I have re-inserted the 1985 template twice. I strongly suspect that whoever is removing it doesn't recognize the template, doesn't understand why it is used, and thinks their removal of it is an improvement. But they are mistaken. The template emits html into the web page, that can read by robots. Allowing robots to reliably know a birth year, rather than relying on unreliable screen-scraping, is a very valuable thing. Please don't remove the template unless you understand how it works. Geo Swan (talk) 05:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

This is the second or third time someone has "corrected"  1985 (age 39)  to spell out Najibullah's date of birth.

I used the  1985 (age 39)  template for several reasons, including:
 * 1) the date template emit named fields for dates, ones that can be reliably searched for by robots, without making them resrot to unreliable "screen-scraping".
 * 2) to protect the subjects of our articles from identity theft, and other invasions of privacy, many contributors don't spell out the specific date of birth for living persons, as a courtesy.

I reverted the change, again. Please don't undo this -- without explanation. Geo Swan (talk) 13:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Shoot. I already explained this a month ago.  Geo Swan (talk) 13:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I do fail to comprehend how, if government, & various other entities, have published something which is generally available, one additional source publishing the same data would have significant effect regarding identity-theft.

hopiakuta  Please  do   sign  your  communiqu%c3%a9 .%7e%7eThank You,   DonFphrnqTaub  Persina. 22:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If someone wants to impersonate Najibullah Zazi, I say go for it! The results may not be quite as expected.... ;) Wnt (talk) 23:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Valerie_Elise_Plame_Wilson

 * "In the last few months alone, we have apprehended extremists within our borders who were sent here from the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan to commit new acts of terror."


 * The fake case scenario does seem relevant, possible, if not likely.

hopiakuta  Please  do   sign  your  communiqu%c3%a9 .%7e%7eThank You,   DonFphrnqTaub  Persina. 22:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * tonkin_(disambiguation)
 * remember_the_Maine,_to_Hell_with_Spain!

hopiakuta  Please  do   sign  your  communiqu%c3%a9 .%7e%7eThank You,   DonFphrnqTaub  Persina. 22:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Article Renaming
This article should be renamed 2009 Al Qaeda New York Subway Bomb Plot then rewritten accordingly. Edkollin (talk) 03:31, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That sounds fair, as along the lines for the 2010 Times Square car bomb attempt. and then Najibullah Zazi can redirect to that.122.167.180.180 (talk) 09:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You can start a separate article if you like for the event, and have two -- much as we have w/the Fort Hood shooter and the Christmas Day Bomber. No need to deprive the benefit of the existing cats, for example.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

update needed
This article is woefully out-of-date. I tried searching the Internet for details of the man's sentencing, but I could not find anything specifically saying he had been sentenced! It's like he has disappeared. Could someone else please help?211.225.39.71 (talk) 02:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

update needed
This article is woefully out-of-date. I tried searching the Internet for details of the man's sentencing, but I could not find anything specifically saying he had been sentenced! It's like he has disappeared. Could someone else please help?211.225.39.71 (talk) 02:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Whew, I finally found something: He's to be sentenced this month (in 2013!). 211.225.39.71 (talk) 02:36, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Diannaa (talk) 22:43, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 one external links on Najibullah Zazi. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100225001447/http://www.nydailynews.com:80/news/ny_crime/2010/02/23/2010-02-23_najibullah_zazi_reveals_chilling_details_on_al_qaeda_training_and_terrorist_plot.html to http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/02/23/2010-02-23_najibullah_zazi_reveals_chilling_details_on_al_qaeda_training_and_terrorist_plot.html
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100225001447/http://www.nydailynews.com:80/news/ny_crime/2010/02/23/2010-02-23_najibullah_zazi_reveals_chilling_details_on_al_qaeda_training_and_terrorist_plot.html to http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/02/23/2010-02-23_najibullah_zazi_reveals_chilling_details_on_al_qaeda_training_and_terrorist_plot.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

Cheers.—cyberbot II  Talk to my owner :Online 00:04, 25 February 2016 (UTC)