Talk:Nancy Kwan

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"unusual but beautiful appearance"--merely unprofessional, or POV? Please reword. --Dpr 00:00, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on this matter. - Nat Krause 16:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The recent changes to the sentence are still not sufficient to be NPOV and/or comprehensively encyclopedic. --Dpr 03:52, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

"She is considered to be a sex symbol among her fans, as they feel she's beautiful because of her unusual, Eurasian appearance." This is a repeated sentence in some of the Eurasian categories and is obviously biased. -- FunKeh 18:25, 16 October 2005 (NZT)
 * It may come from the same user. In any case it must be changed, at each instance. --Dpr 06:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Why? Perhaps the "unusual" tag is unneeded, but the "beautiful" tag is certainly applicable, even among general eurasian (white/asian) categories. Sorrowek 06:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

If Nancy Kwan is "unusual" who would be considered "usual" in terms of appearance? It is certainly appropriate to include the word unusual when quoting what someone else has written, but certainly none of us Wikipedia contributors are so provincial and/or ethnocentric that we would use it to describe Nancy Kwan! (71.22.47.232 (talk) 21:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC))


 * Thank you 71.22.47.232!--Aichik (talk) 19:55, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * "but certainly none of us Wikipedia contributors are so provincial and/or ethnocentric that we would use it to describe Nancy Kwan!" Please. Such a drama queen, not to mention disingenuous. And provincial. There is nothing "provincial" and/or "ethnocentric" about calling someone with unusual features, "unusual." It's simply being honest. Nancy Kwan was born in 1938. At the time, Eurasian features were extremely unusual. 2604:2000:9046:800:84DB:C02:6B1E:97E2 (talk) 09:25, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

CNN Article
This article at CNN might include some useful sources: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/04/15/talk.asia.nancy.kwan/index.html Tweisbach (talk) 08:58, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced content
During the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong, in December 1941, Kwan's father, who worked for British intelligence, fled the city on foot along with Nancy and her brother, Ka Keung, and hid out in western China. The family returned to Hong Kong at the end of World War II.

Kwan later studied at the Royal Ballet School in England, performing in Swan Lake and Sleeping Beauty at Covent Garden. She completed her studies with a certificate to teach ballet.

While she was in England, producer Ray Stark discovered her. At the time, Asian film characters, particularly those in major film roles, were often played by white actors and actresses, using makeup to simulate Asian facial features. However, at the age of 20, Kwan received the starring role of a beautiful and free-spirited Hong Kong prostitute who captivates artist Robert Lomax (William Holden) in the film The World of Suzie Wong (1960).

She followed it up the next year with the Broadway musical film Flower Drum Song (1961) and became one of Hollywood's most visible Eurasian actresses. She became a style icon for the signature Vidal Sassoon bob cut she wore in the 1963 film, The Wild Affair. The asymmetrical hairstyle became a 1960s staple, and variations of the cut are still being modeled today.

She spent the 1960s starring in several films, such as The Wrecking Crew and appearing on such television series as Hawaii Five-O. During this time, she commuted between the United States and Europe.

Kwan married Austrian ski instructor Peter Pock and gave birth to a son, Bernhard Pock (Bernie), who died at age 33 in 1996 of AIDS. Kwan returned to her native Hong Kong in 1972 to be with her critically ill father. After his death, she married director-producer Norbert Meisel and returned to the United States.

Since returning to the USA in 1979, she has made guest appearances and co-starred on numerous television productions, such as Kung Fu, The A-Team and ER. She has appeared on television commercials even into the 1990s. She became a household name after appearing in numerous, frequently airing advertisements as the spokesperson for the cosmetic Pearl Cream.

Cunard (talk) 21:07, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Amah
The piece states that she was, "cared for by an amah (阿嬤), a woman who looks after children..." Since this is an English language entry do we really need to use the romanization of the Chinese name for child minder? Is it constructive to place the Chinese characters in parenthesis in the text? This entry is about Nancy Kwan -- it is not a lesson on Chinese vocabulary or translation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.36.245.254 (talk) 17:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Mandarin pinyin?
Why Mandarin? She's from HK, and Cantonese, so should have Cantonese spellings, she was born before Pinyin was invented, and her native Hong Kong uses jyutping nowadays. Wade Giles and HK-particular spellings should be emphasized. -- 65.94.42.168 (talk) 08:15, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Mistake?
"In 1994, she lived with her second husband, film distributor David Giler, and her son, Bernie, in a Beverly Hills house."

Why would she live with her second husband in 1994, when she divorced him in 1972 and was remarried to her third husband in 1976? I guess its wrong, but who knows...Elhacat (talk) 12:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

This was indeed a mistake made by a writer for the South China Morning Post, who clearly confused Kwan's first husband, the Austrian hotelier Peter Pock; her second husband, Hollywood screenwriter David Giler; and her third husband, Austrian screenwriter Norbert Meisel. I've straightened this out in the article.Jhlechner (talk) 05:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Infobox photo
Infobox image should be changed to a recent one, i'm proposing this one

Shes not dead, so there's no reason to use a 60 year old picture --FMSky (talk) 09:53, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This has been the infobox photo for over five years. There is no policy which says the infobox should show a recent photo for a living subject, the implication being that the death of the subject would trigger a change for some reason (although I note this is exactly what has happened with the Jane Birkin article since her recent death). Where the subject is an actor, and best known for their work in a limited time period (as opposed to, say, Bette Davis, Michelle Yeoh or Judi Dench, whose careers span several decades), I suggest the infobox photo should show an image from that period. If you look at other articles for living actors, e. g. Claire Bloom, Béatrice Dalle, Brigitte Bardot, they mostly show an infobox image from their ‘prime’ acting period. The article describes Nancy Kwan’s peak period as the 1960s, so that’s where the image should date to. I have no problem with using a recent photo later in the article. Masato.harada (talk) 09:24, 17 July 2023 (UTC)