Talk:Nani (footballer)

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Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha, or more simply known as "Nani" is another product of the Sporting Clube de Portugal Academy. Born in Amadora, Portugal on 1986-11-17, Nani has quickly moved up the ranks at Sporting and has become a regular member of their squad. He has been tipped for his dribbling abilities which resemble those of Cristiano Ronaldo or Ricardo Quaresma (both of which also came from the Sporting Academy). Nani has 6 goals in the 2005/2006 season ( 5 league goals and 1 cup goal ). Though he has proven himself to be a very talented player he has yet to become a regular starter and usually is a substitute for Carlos Martins in the 60th minute and plays on the Right Wing. Nani has only been called up to the Portuguese Under-21 squad a few times so far, but in the U-21 European Championship later this May, he is sure to make a regular appearance. Nani has signed a contract with sporting till 2010 and looks to have a very positive furture ahead of him.

I think it is copy from other site, but i cannot found it by Web searching. Matthew hk 13:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

POB
I know that he grew up in Lisbon, but I heard in a few interviews and commentaries that he was born in Cape Verde. The only thing is that these commentaries are in Portuguese and I'm not sure if in game commentary is something to be cited, plus it would be helpful if any Portuguese speakers can back that up, because my Portuguese isn't perfect. thanks

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thoyo (talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Major source all state that he is born in Lisbon, but i also agree that he was from Cape Verde in young Age. Matthew_hk  t  c  01:37, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The article says "Nani was born in Portugal, when his family migrated to Portugal." It seems as if they meant to say something else, i suggested before that he's from Cape Verde. I think that's what the author meant.

He was born in Amadora. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.102.206.106 (talk) 07:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Good goal ratio
29 goals in 5 caps? Very good indeed.

Club Information
He won't be given the no. 18 shirt at United as that belongs to Paul Scholes (he scores goals).

And when saying he'll be given no. 17 in the current article, the phrase "nice and dandi" doesn't seem very encyclopedic to me. signed Barnjo 09:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

why is there more information in the manchester united section than in the sporting section. he hasnt started his contract yet. more research on his career at sporting please.--Numberwang 22:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

On the skysports website Nani is already listed as part of Manchester United's squad 18/06/07

Pictures have now been released of Nani posing in the United strip and signing the contract with David Gill. He is now officially a United player. Check Gettyimages.
 * Care to supply a link?Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 20:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

here you go http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx  86.14.246.217 21:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Er, those pics just confirm what the article already says, that he's signed a contract which will come into force 1st July, so he's not a united player yet. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 21:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

He's as much a United player as Gareth Bale and Darren Bent are Spurs players. He has signed a five-year deal with the club. Sporting are already spending the transfer fee. It's done.
 * And your source for this is ....? Kevin McE 08:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

probably those pictures of him being photographed with david gill signing a contract while wearing a man utd shirt.
 * Until United announce the completed deal, as they've done today with Hargreaves, it's not a done thing. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 16:43, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

True, although I have never in my life seen a player sign a contract, take photos in the shirt and then the deal not go through.
 * Neither have I that I remember in detail, though I sure there was something in Match magazine (20-odd years ago, not the comic now) about a player that signed, had pics taken in the kit, paraded in fornt of the fans during a game, that the deal then fell through.
 * Here's hoping that this comes off quickly, but as I've said on another article, God forbid, but if Nani (or Anderson for that matters) suffers a career-ending injury (or worse, death) between now and the transfer officially going through (ie FIFA/FA clearence), then they would never have been a United player. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 18:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Can his club name be changed to 'Manchester United' in the fact box on the right? Don't know how 'Juventus' got approved! Anubhav Mishra (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Anubhav 12:47 SGT 12.05.2013

Proposed move 2007
Wouldn't this article be better placed at "Luis Carlos Almeida da Cunha"? "Nani (footballer)" seems a bit too generic, and to title the article after his full name just seems more appropriate to me. - PeeJay 15:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree - tbh, I thought it was the longer title originally and somoen had moved it.Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 16:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll go right ahead and do that then. - PeeJay 18:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Contested move request
''The following request to move a page has been added to Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM.'' —Stemonitis 18:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nani (footballer) → Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha — "Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha" is the player's full name. "Nani (footballer)" is too generic. —PeeJay 18:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The trouble is, he's almost exclusively known simply as "Nani". Almost all the 33,000 web hits for "Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha" also use "Nani", and there are a further 400,000 using only "Nani". If these numbers are representative, then the current title is right. --Stemonitis 18:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed - keep the article at the current name. - fchd 19:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Tentative oppose If I could rephrase Stemonitis, he is known almost exclusively as Nani: i.e., this is what is likely to be on the back of his shirt, that is how press reports and fans will refer to him, almost without exception, and any exception will need explanation; for this reason I oppose the move (Policy suggests that we use the name best known to English speakers, and that is undoubtedly Nani).  However, what tentativeness I have is in deciding the appropriate disambiguation: given the preponderance of nicknames in football, for how long will we be able to say that he, exclusively, is known as Nani: i.e., will there be several other players to whom the article Nani (footballer) could equally apply?  Kevin McE 23:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That last bit is a good point. I can't actually think of any other footballers to whom "Nani (footballer)" could refer directly, but I'm pretty sure there's a Uruguayan player called Roberto Nanni, if that counts. - PeeJay 01:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * These last concerns, while valid, should not affect the choice of core title, but only the choice of disambiguating suffix. If there were a dozen footballers all called just "Nani", then they should all be at articles with titles based on "Nani". There are many options for later disambiguation: "Nani (Manchester United footballer)", "Nani (winger)", "Nani (footballer born 1986)" and probably others, which we only need to consider when such articles arise. --Stemonitis 06:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Pele is at Pele, not Edson Arantes do Nascimento. Even though there's other footballers with "Pele" in their name (e.g. Abedi Pele, Yohann Pele, Pedro Pele).  If there's a (made up example) Brazillian player called "Pablo Nani" in the future, then all you'd need is a disambiguation at the top of the Nani (footballer) page ("This page is for the Portugese player.  For the Brazillian player, see Pablo Nani").  Neil   ╦  14:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Ronaldo comparison
I'd take the Ronaldo comparison out. The likeness is purely based on them both being Portuguese and coming through the Sporting academy. They are actually quite different players, so comparing them in the first paragraph is lazy.

Nani and Anderson lived with Ronaldo in his house when they moved over from Portugal. Ronaldo helped them settle down and that resulted in all of them becoming good friends.

Read that in the Man Utd magazine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.195.8 (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Accused Sex Scandle
There is no citation to support the accusation made in the final sentence of the "International career" subtitle. The sentence is also grammatically incorrect. It should be removed immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaccookie (talk • contribs) 00:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Requested move 2007

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Nani (footballer) → Nani — should be moved to Nani as most common usage —// laughing man 17:03, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Oppose - at least the village on Rhodes should have an article, keep "Nani" as the disambiguation page, and keep "Nani (footballer)" as the name for this article. - fchd 09:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, (footballer) is more precise.  ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 17:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, as the above have stated, (footballer) is more precise.  Crassic(talk) 12:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:


 * I live in Manchester but I never heard of this Nani (footballer). Let plain Nani keep on being the disambig page. Anthony Appleyard 09:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


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It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 18:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Photo
can anyone had a photo to his personal info —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benficadc13 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

--89.216.233.41 (talk) 16:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Date of Birth?
1986 or 1987? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.11.253.210 (talk) 04:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Please, correct Nani's DOB in Basic Facts Box, it's wrong. Later in text, DoB is correct!

Please, correct: Nani was born in Lisbon, although his parents are from Cape Verde.
 * No he wasn't. – PeeJay 09:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

International career
Can someone check firstly his international stats in the info box. Are they correct - couldn't find confirmation either way in the links at the end of the article? Secondly, in the Portugal section of the main article, it seems to read he was 13 years when called up for the 2006 U21 squad, IF I'm reading it write. Darkson (BOOM! An interception!) 05:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

His real name...
Shouldn't there be some sort of section saying why Nani chooses to use a completely random (and stupid) name?

Or a section saying he ignores his real name because he isn't proud of his heritage or something.... I don't know the actual reason.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.146.96 (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC) No, because most people are not idiots. :/ It's quite common for footballers with long names such as nani, c.ronaldo, Ronaldinho and many others to be referred by another name. Nothing to do with not being proud of there heritage and not really noteworthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.218.244 (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Nami got his nickname from his sister. So by using the nickname he is honouring his sister and family. What the heck is stupid about that?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.70.42 (talk) 10:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 2011 March

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move. I almost said rough consensus, but when only the proposer is in favour and the proposal seems to ignore both important facts (the proposed title isn't the birth name anyway) and clear policy it could arguably be called a strong consesnsus. Andrewa (talk) 09:03, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Nani (footballer) → Luís Nani — His birth name is Luis Nani not just 'Nani'. SportingLisboaXI (talk) 21:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Says here his birth name is Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha.  And even if his birth name was Luís Nani, the correct usage is to use the common name - that's why we don't list Kaká as Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite. --fuzzy510 (talk) 08:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - His birth name is not Luis Nani. He should go by the name he is commonly known as in the media. Spiderone  17:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Strongly oppose per WP:COMMONNAME as cited by Fuzzy and Spider. — Dale Arnett (talk) 06:58, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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Requested Move 2011 May

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. Convincing case. The article's disambig hatnote was modified to reflect the change. -- Hadal (talk) 06:41, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Nani (footballer) → Nani – The footballer appears to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the word Nani. The footballer has consistantly by far the highest page views of all the other Nanis, for example 62k so far this month (here) compared to ~5k for all the other Nanis combined. 19 of the top 20 Google search results are about the footballer, with one blank page. All of the top 20 in Google News are about the footballer too. Should Nani (footballer) be moved to Nani then Nani should be moved to Nani (disambiguation). doom gaze  (talk)  17:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Nani → Nani (disambiguation)
 * Support. Nom makes a compelling case that the footballer is the primary topic and my own searches of the google news archive provided similar results. Jenks24 (talk) 16:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, same as the intro and the above statement, most common name use. – HonorTheKing (talk) 20:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


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"Luis Nani"
I've removed all references to the name "Luis Nani" from this article as it is a complete misnomer. Nani is his nickname, which people sometimes add "Luis" to in the belief that "Nani" is his surname. The Press Association is particularly guilty of this, although I believe that their error stems from a limitation of the software they use to record football stats; every player's entry in their database needs a first name and surname, so for Nani, they've put "Luis Nani". Same goes for Anderson, who they often refer to as "Anderson Oliveira". – PeeJay 13:15, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Transfer to Fenerbahce
Nani is coming to Istanbul today, the club stated that his plane will be arriving to İstanbul at 20:00 and tomorrow there will be a open signing ceremony in the club's stadium. The owner of the plane that he is coming with and also the number he is going to wear in his new club is all stated. Club's offical television channel, Fenerbahçe TV has stated that there will be live feed from the plane that he is coming in.Rivaner (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * He will update the article when he signs and is subject to a medical. SLBedit (talk) 16:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * OK then. Sorry for making an early edit. After tomorrow's signing ceremony, either he or me will update the article. Thanks for taking the time to answer my post.Rivaner (talk) 16:23, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Birth place
Birth place showing to Cape Verde but Turkish Football Federation official site and Portuguese Football Federation official site writing Amadora, Portugal. Portuguese Football Federation site showing for other nation birth place like this and this, Regadrs, Fenerli1978 (talk) 04:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't explain that. While he was in England, his birth place was always reported as Praia. – PeeJay 12:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * In fact, it doesn't make sense for him to have been born in Amadora then moved to Praia, since he began his career with Real Sport Clube in Queluz. This source states that he grew up in Santa Filomena, which overlooks Amadora. So maybe he identifies more with Amadora since he grew up there, but based on the sources available, I'd say he was definitely born in Praia. – PeeJay 12:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No one is claiming he moved to Praia, either he was born in Praia and moved to Portugal as a baby or he was already born in Portugal and never lived in Cape Verde. According to Manchester United's website a while ago he was born in Praia while according to the Portuguese Football Federation website, the Turkish Federation website and himself in an interview to the Cape Verdean newspaper Nha Terra he was born in Portugal. --Joaommx (talk) 14:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

He says he was born in Amadora (Portugal), and explains that: http://www.nhaterra.com.cv/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1330 --85.54.203.69 (talk) 23:26, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Honours
Trophies he's won aren't listed!!! 88.115.201.50 (talk) 21:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Edit: It's fixed.88.115.201.50 (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Birth place confirmed, he said he was born in Portugal
He says he was born in Amadora, Lisbon,(Portugal), and explains that here: http://www.nhaterra.com.cv/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=1330 --Trucoplus (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think it is Amadora, Portugal. That above link is now dead, but can be seen from the Wayback Machine here. This Portuguese Football Federation source also states he was born in Amadora. I think these two sources alone are substantial enough to say he was born in Amadora, but was of Cape Verde descent. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 14:36, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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