Talk:Naomi Campbell/Archive 1

Gay Icon Project
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:14, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Why does there need to be a gay icon category? There is not a heterosexual icon category.  It's just superfluous categorization.--Filthy swine 18:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 'Gay Icon' is a commonly used term. And besides, you might not like it, but in our society if something's different we do label it. Like, in an article about someone, it would always say if someone was or something, but hardly ever if they were straight. I accosiate myself with the GLBT community and I don't really mind. I certainly don't mind there being a section called 'gay icon'.

Galanis case
What about mentioning the Galanis case, Campbell's voilent and abusive behavior toward her assistant, and her coccaine addiction?

Jehovah's Witness
As far as I know, she is not one of Jehovha's Witnesses. Her mother is one, but that is not making her one. Summer Song 08:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Piers Morgan quote
Italic textMirror editor Piers Morgan said at the time "This is a very good day for lying drug-abusing prima donnas who want to have their cake with the media, and the right to then shamelessly guzzle it with their Cristal champagne. Five senior judges found for the Mirror throughout the various hearings in this case, four for Naomi Campbell. Yet she wins. If ever there was a less deserving case for creating what is effectively a back door privacy law it would be Ms Campbell, but that's showbiz."Italic text

The inclusion of this statement seems to prejudice the reader against Naomi Campbell (whom personally I can't stand) and hence violate NPOV. 24.215.179.72 03:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think it violates WP:NPOV, since it is a direct quote attributed to someone whose anti-Campbell bias is made obvious in the article. It would be nice, however, if it were balanced by a relevant quote from, say, Campbell or her legal representation.  Also, the quote needs a source so that it can be verified.  (I'll add a  tag to indicate this.)   dbtfz talk 03:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Are those quotes really true??If they are they make Naoimi seem like areal loser24.66.94.140 22:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)hope.

Can someone change his heading?
I called it "Legal Troubles", but i don't like it. My original choice was "encounters with the law", but that doesn't easily include the newspaper case. Amo 01:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * what's wrong with it? i think it works fine. Joeyramoney 23:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
Parts of the article read like a fan gushing over her. "To date she is among the most covered models ever and the most covered Black Star ever" in bold is not what I call neutral, especially not backed up with any soft of statistics.
 * I have just undertaken a re-deit, although the article is still a bit "gushy" and mainly unreferenced -0 there's lot more on her early career that needs to be added, and the topline is tosh. Will look at further, but at present keep the POV tag. Rgds, - Trident13 10:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Magazine cover
Let's just hope this edition was not just intended as a way for lately adding a (non notable) magazine cover image to depict Ms. Campbell. --Abu Badali 14:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Earnings / photos
A while ago, there was posted, her $28,000,000 reportedly earned from her modelling career, which I think should be reposted.

Also, why does Wikipedia remove the photos? I mean, isn't the entire idea of a supermodel mean your career revolves around photos being taken of you? I'm positive it isn't too hard to find an appropriate photograph for the article.


 * It needs to be freely-licensed. It seems we found one that was. Daniel Case

Stranded
I just read on Attack of the Show's Feed that Campbell's assistant was also stranded in Morrocco after Naomi ripped up her passport, is that true? --D-hyo 16:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Image
How can there be no picture for Naomi Campbell? It makes no sense!
 * Maybe you can take one for us. Kaldari 06:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

'Mixed race'
Why refer to her as 'dark'? or Mixed race? She as well as the rest of the planet see her as being black, bias? whitewashing her 'blackness'? I reverted the original text. On the intro it says that she's 25% Asian, I left that in, but the other sections referencing her 'darkness' is out.

sorry in advance, i do not know how to sign my comments. but how can she be half 'african-american' when she was born in england?! and she is only about 1/8th chinese (12.5%), just like 80% of the caribbean is mixed. most of us would just consider that black, but apparently someone dug up her ancestry to make her seem more exotic. anyway, maybe i'm wrong, maybe she is proud of her chinese heritage...so i'm gonna change it to 1/8th chinese but i'm removing the african american thing cause that's just silly. (edit: actually, someone changed it before i did, so i'm leaving it like it is) 24.208.190.20Entropy9

Temper tantrums
Clearly the girl has trouble keeping her temper in check, but let's not be harsher on her than the facts warrant. The "no show" thing is especially serious, because it implies deliberate and premeditated evasion of the law (not just a momentary lapse).

The story I read just before coming here was that her attorney had already worked out a deal with the prosecutor. --Uncle Ed 14:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Music
The music section seems a bit biased. It doesn't say anything about how her solo album was rated one of the worst albums of all time, I think by Q magazine, and it was totally panned by critics upon it's release. 80.41.114.64 19:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Spelling modeling vs modelling
Main Entry: 2model Function: verb Inflected Form(s): -eled or -elled; -el·ing or mod·el·ling /'mäd-li[ng], 'mä-d&l-i[ng]/ transitive verb 1 : to plan or form after a pattern : SHAPE 2 archaic : to make into an organization (as an army, government, or parish) 3 a : to shape or fashion in a plastic material b : to produce a representation or simulation of  4 : to construct or fashion in imitation of a particular model  5 : to display by wearing, using, or posing with intransitive verb 1 : to design or imitate forms : make a pattern 2 : to work or act as a fashion or art model - mod·el·er also mod·el·ler /'mäd-l&r, 'mä-d&l-&r/ noun source:Number1spygirl


 * The British spelling, modelling, should be used throughout this article. Jim Michael (talk) 10:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Cool as Ice
After watching the video for "Cool as Ice (Everybody Get Loose)" from the Vanilla Ice movie she was in - I noticed she sang the chorus ... did she sing it in real life or was she just lip synching for the video?

If it was her, shouldn't it be added to the music section of her bio? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.2.175.134 (talk) 15:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I place this link on her page?
http://naomicampbellvideos.blogspot.com/ I do not want to put spam on wikipedia or get banned. But I made a quality video of her it is not spam surely if it is high quality like this one. Surely there is difference between spam and quality websites that just have adverts on them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.255.133 (talk) 17:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No. As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, the link blatantly violates WP:SPAM and WP:EL.  Even if this site was appropriate for Wikipedia, which it manifestly is not, it is still inappropriate to link to your own site.  --Yamla (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Date of birth
Is this meant to be an encyclopaedia, or simply a forum for twelve year olds? There's two different dates of birth in this article, you fools. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.224.209 (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

76.178.68.210 changed the DOB from 1970 to 1969 which makes her 38, yet the BBC are reporting her as 37 which would make 1970 correct. Is there a source for this change? jckcip —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jckcip (talk • contribs) 23:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.celebritywonder.com/html/naomicampbell.html also confirms DOB as 1970. I've updated the article. jckcip —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jckcip (talk • contribs) 23:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

What about her issues with PETA?
I on TV I saw she was named I don't know what thing of PETA and like weeks later she appeared with a HUGE fur on a runaway, that generated controversy. is it true? if it's true, I think it should it be mentioned. (Sunsetterxxx (talk) 00:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC))

Personal life
Shouldn't this section mention that she was engaged to Adam Clayton? Terrytwo (talk) 19:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of her personal relationships are not mentioned in this article. They should be added, supported by reliable sources. Jim Michael (talk) 10:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * She lived with De Niro for 2 years but neither page refers to it -needs a source though.--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht Talk/Stalk 22:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Race
You guys are doing it again: You're exaggerating the non-blackness of a black person, pumping it up without credibility. I searched high and low on all the internet articles. 1. No one except unverified sources (that are basically unsubstantiated) can attest that Naomi's grandmother was named Ming. 2. The grand mother even if named Ming would not be necessarily 100% Chinese anyway. Grandma Ming might have been herself mixed. 3. Naomi Campbell herself hasn't met her father, how on earth is Wikipedia citing third hand sources of her father's mothers name and ethnicity without credible sources??? Heck, not even an explanation is given. Just "Naomi Campbell has never met her father, but we here at Wikipedia know that her father's mother was full blooded chinese." That's the kind of racial disrespect that irritates. I took it out. --71.238.121.147 (talk) 04:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

IN fact, just to make sure you guys don't cry foul. Here is what the article which is referenced as #4 [] actually says:

Biography

Born: May 22 1970, London.

Parents: Valerie Morris, a dancer. Naomi took the surname Campbell from her mother's second marriage. Her family was originally Jamaican and her father's mother was of Chinese ancestry (family name Ming).

So where did the 1/4th come from? Is she 3/4ths English because of her last name of "Campbell"? --71.238.121.147 (talk) 04:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Lock the page
I don't think allowing anonymous edit should be allowed here as there are haters. Make it editable to only registered users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mini4me (talk • contribs) 02:09, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Introduction clean-up
"Discovered while shopping in London, Campbell started her career..." What does it mean for a person to be "discovered while shopping"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cchamp27 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

That simply means that Campbell was spotted while shopping by someone who works in the fashion industry and thinks she could be a model and addresses her to try modelling. Seriously, what's so difficult to understand about "discovered while shopping" when you're reading a models' wiki-page??--VSfan88 (talk) 16:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Cadbury incident
Somebody needs to write a section about Naomi Campbell's recent bout of butthurt in response to a perceived racist comment on the part of Cadbury, and the large amount of ridicule it has brought upon her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.48.78.217 (talk) 13:23, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Source? Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 15:28, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Removal of information by an employee of a PR firm
A discussion of problematical removal of information from this article, by User:Alexdltb, can be found here: http://wikistrategies.net/sunshine-sachs/ -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Mentioned also in a New York Times article Barte (talk) 02:05, 23 June 2015 (UTC)


 * This user as well: 46.65.49.21JoelDick (talk) 23:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Are there plans to add this to the article since multiple sources now exist for this? (Including the BBC). Thanks ツ Jenova  20  (email) 10:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Jenova, it was added by another editor but I moved it to the article about the PR man responsible for the problematic edits (too lazy to check, Sunshine something). In my opinion it doesn't belong here because it has nothing to do with Campbell's life or career, and she is not responsible for the actions of the firm she hired. As an aside, those problematic edits never even stood, because I edited the "negative" material back in when they were originally made. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 14:37, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, better at Ken Sunshine. Did you put it all back? I just put back some of that material that User:Alexdltb removed.  Someone removed it again in the interim, perhaps?  Ton of dirt at existing source "IE" - http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/features/long-legs-short-fuse-26281100.html e.g. "Branded by a 'Vanity Fair' columnist as "the biggest brat in the modelling business" Anything jump out as particularly noteworthy, or are we good? --Elvey(t•c) 23:06, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Dam, lost my contributions due to a flaky 'net connection/browser. :-( Recreated 'em.  I also just started a discussion at Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard.--Elvey(t•c) 00:41, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah I restored it all at the time, if anything was removed later it was probably by me. The Naomi Awards are a good addition. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 15:03, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

More Detail of Career
This article lacks the information about Campbell's career and I feel that is the case because she is a black woman. In America, black women are the most disrespected person. People would give anything to make sure black women are not successful or look successful, because privilege is power. To improve this article, I would recommend adding more about her career and more into depth with her charity work because that is what she does all of the time. Most of the time when Naomi is seen in the media it is because she did something good for charity or the fashion industry. She deserves better recognition than how this article portrays her. Naomi Campbell's website is the best way to learn about her life. It shows that she is human and even she, a supermodel can make mistakes.

http://www.naomicampbell.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaycustis (talk • contribs) 20:23, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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