Talk:Naruto: Ninja Council 3

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While I'm fine with the change that aLttP made, I would also say that until we know for certain Naruto Ninja Council 3 can point to SND3, beacuse isn't that what SND means? I'm not a Japanese expert, so feel free to ignore my comments. McKay 22:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Possibly, but it is not necessarily a direct translation. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * good point. McKay 07:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Who Keeps Stating That This Is a Fusion Between The 3rd and 4th Games?!?!?
IT IS NOT! NO merging ever happened. I own the original 4th, and this is EXACTLY the same thing, aside from the edits. No content from the 3rd ever made it into this "3rd".

Also, Itachi's "T" WAS changed into a block, and I don't know WHY this keeps getting removed. To the ridiculous 12 year old that keeps changing the edits BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THE "T" NEVER EXISTED, YOU NEED TO WATCH THE JAPANESE EPISODES OR PLAY THE JAPANESE VERSION AND NOT REMOVE THE EDIT INFO!

Once I change it, DO NOT CHANGE IT AGAIN! Kylemcauliffe15 15:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)kylemcauliffe15
 * I'm 14, nobody ever said it didn't exist, and I do in fact have and beaten Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 4 so I should know it like the back of my hand. But that's all besides the point. We don't need to mention every last edit made before Ninja Council 3 was released, and if the game isn't a fusion of Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3 and 4, then I'll change it. There's really no reason for you to get pissed off over something like this, so I suggest you take a chill pill and discuss it like a civilized user next time. // Decaimiento Poético  20:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to seem pissy. It's just that I have been messed with by a bunch of kids here before, and I figured you were one of them, so I made an attempt to scare them off. No hard feelings. :) I too have beaten SN4, and know it like the back of my hand as well.

Also, why is mentioning the Tsukuyomi edit so untolerable? It is an edit, somewhat of a minor detail, and should be listed. The thing about the trading card should be moved to the beginning of the article, and the Tsukuyomi edit should be put in the edits section in it's place. (the card has nothing to do with edits) If it cannot be on the page at all, I completely do not know why. It's included there and is an interesting side note, yet why take the trouble of removing it if it is already there? The inclusion of the detail does not mess with the paragraph at all. // Kylemcauliffe15


 * The most important concept here is attributability. We can't say that SND4 is NNC3 unless someone else reliable has said it. Any unsourced edits can be removed. McKay 13:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Why do you need more than one person with the same proof to prove something? That is a completely ridiculous way of going about things. For example, if I were to have factual proof that Elvis was still alive, and it WOULD BE COMPLETELY PROVEN BY ME, what makes it false until someone else has the same proof? Not at all. I have proof right here that these two video games are the same game, in the form of Youtube videos, pictures, plus my own knowledge of the games. (I have played through both of them, plus I own the 4th one and have rented and beaten the English version) Would you like to see some pictures? I can point you to those Youtube videos if you'd like.

-The menus in both games are the same. -The character sprites are the same. -The music is the same. -The title screen is the same. -Need I list more?

I'm not trying to keep things going here, and I don't intend to be causing trouble either.Kylemcauliffe15 03:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Kylemcauliffe15


 * First take a good read through on WP:OR, and WP:A. When you can reliably say that NNC3 is SND4, we'll move it back. I've been asking for something along these lines for over three months. There's been more than enough time for a reliable anyone to have said it. The game has been released in the US. if it's true, find someone who has said it. Wikipedia requires sources, and we can revert anything that doesn't have sources. Get sources and all will be fine. McKay 15:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, take a look at these two videos.


 * 1st - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uc7TLCVcwnE
 * 2nd - http://youtube.com/watch?v=fq4Wy5WsWZI

If this can't convince you, what will? You can clearly see that they are both the same. I can get some gameplay videos if you want those too. ;)Kylemcauliffe15 15:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Kylemcauliffe15


 * This constitutes WP:OR (please read it). That isn't good enough. We need to be able to have reliable attributability. These videos are not sufficient. McKay 16:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Will a scan from the official Viz Media Naruto Collector 3 suffice? This scan is 100% real. If you want to see the cover, I can get it too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ncox7.jpg

It clearly states that it is Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 4 AND was developed by Aspect. (the other games are developed by Aspect too) This is as official proof as I can get. ;)Kylemcauliffe15 22:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Kylemcauliffe15

Events
Why did someone put that Naruto Ninja Council 3 has gone past events in its japanese counterpart look on the front cover of the japanese counterpart of ninja council 3 it shows the sound four we havnt even seen the sound four in the english dub.

What is this about the events, now?
On the page, it states that that the English Anime is ahead of the events in Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3. This is impossible. For one, SND3 covers the Sasuke Retrieval Arc (in a somewhat twisted manner), and contains the entire Sound 5. SND4 was actually released first to buy time to release SND3, and was chosen so because it only has one story related event (Valley of The End battle) that would be easy to remove instead of just making an all new spoiler-free game for the American audience. This is easily proven by the cover of Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 3's, which has the Sound 5 (minus Kimimaro for some unknown reason) and a headbandless Sasuke. Full coverage on the story and such for SND3 can be found here, in the walkthrough section of this guide: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/939670/36908Kylemcauliffe15 00:11, 1 July 2007 (UTC)Kylemcauliffe15