Talk:Nasal cycle

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Hi all This page could really use some more input ... :) Discussions and critiques are most welcome --Seethahere 03:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Could it have anything to do with congestion? My nostrils are blocked from deep inside more often than not, and usually which one is more blocked alternates over time.. one opens, one closes.. one starts to drain onto my 'stache..

Ninjas
Do not laugh: I just heard a podcast by causticsoda where it is claimed that the nasal cycle was already used by Ninjas hundreds of years ago to keep track of time as they were hiding in enemy properties on espionage missions, after having researched the average length of their personal nasal cycle. http://ia601709.us.archive.org/24/items/CausticSodaS04E21Ninja01/CausticSodaS04E21-Ninja-01.mp3 --GambitNC (talk) 22:41, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

postmodern view of nasal cycle
Is this a joke? It looks highly dubious and cites no references. It incorrectly uses chaos theory in a typically new age way.


 * I agree. I read this section and I was like: "Huuhhh?" Let's do away with it.

--Bri (talk) 11:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

hi everyone. the nasal cycle is legit. it belongs here. i'm an ENT doc with an interest in this area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakleysmith (talk • contribs) 22:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This is absolutely legitimate. I notice this all the time when I have a "stuffy nose". This article SHOULD NOT be deleted, it has been helpful to at least one person. 214.13.47.111 (talk) 13:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No, it's not a joke. And it is worth knowing about, just as is any physiologic fact about our bodies. How can a person recognize what's abnormal if he/she doesn't know what is normal? I'm another ENT physician who has looked into 20-30 noses every work day for the past 35 years. The nasal cycle is very real. I spent a lot of time writing a coherent description of it on WIKI, but apparently anyone can delete anything at any time, regardless of their credentials or lack thereof. So I see no point in wasting more time attempting to relay information to the public. There are MANY areas of medicine and human physiology that are not described anywhere in the medical literature, or only in informal settings, so that they do not reach the level of general knowledge, or even general medical knowledge. So you will continue to have general physicians prescribing CT scans, antibiotics, nasal steroids, and yes, even surgery, for patients who simply are complaining of the normal, physiologic nasal cycle. Gee, I wonder why our health care is so expensive? I labored under the belief that the internet might be an antidote to that phenomenon, but apparently not. DSetliff@pol.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.110.161 (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Just for posterity, the complaint was specifically about the "Post modern view of nasal cycle" section visible in revision http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nasal_cycle&oldid=201049706, containing such phrases as "The post modern view uses chaos theory to explain physiological phenomenon and considers order[rhythm and symmetry] as an artifact of human mind."
 * 216.232.157.160 (talk) 11:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

neuroscience and nasal cycle
this is very interesting. as u can see, i've tried to create greater neutrality in some of the statements and i've added some more medical info. i'm unaware the relationship between the nasal cycle and hemishereic dominance. i'm new to editing, its my first time. hopefully ive not offended anyone. the valve or reason for the nasal cycle is unknown to convention medicine presently. perhaps someone with knowledge about the neurosciences can add/edit the last part of the article.Oakleysmith (talk) 02:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps Oakleysmith can enlighten me as to how often a neuroscientist looks into people's noses, how many people with nasal problems seek his opinion about their problems, how many nasal and sinus x-rays and CT's he reads, and how much nasal surgery he does. If you wait for answers from the "neuroscientist", you will wait forever and still not have a meaningful answer. Offended? Of course I'm offended when my writing was completely deleted! Give me a break! DSetliff@pol.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.145.48.42 (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I recall reading an article about a study of rats that had callosotomies (NOT colostomies!) and looked at brain activity related to the nasal cycle. There's also hard evidence for one or the other nostril being more sensitive and that being linked to handedness (at least in rats) which would certainly indicate some sort of hemispheric effects on smell... I'll try to dig that up in the near future, might be enlightening. Winston Spencer (talk)

Is this real? I heard it was a myth.
And it doesn't make sense to me. Why would the swelling switch from nostril to nostril? Seems too convenient to be logical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.20.42 (talk) 21:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

It DOES make sense to otolaryngologists (ear, nose, & throat physicians {& surgeons}), who are the most knowledgable concerning the anatomy, physiology, and pathology of the nose. The FACT is that we have two noses, with one open & functioning fully at any one time. The reason we have two is so that one prime function of the nose is to HUMIDIFY the air we breathe. If we only had one nasal passage that was constantly open, the mucosal lining of the nasal interior would dry out, crack, become infected, bleed, etc. We ENT physicians see this in patients who have had excessive removal of turbinates, in whom the diagnosis is atrophic rhinitis. It is a very unpleasant result of excessive intranasal surgery. The reason we have two nostrils is that we NEED two in order for the two noses to alternate working and provide a constantly available source of humidification (and filtering and warming). I spent a LOT of time writing an explanation of the nasal cycle for WIKI, only to have it deleted by someone and replaced with almost NOTHING! What's the point of making contributions if any dodo can undo your work based on their subjective judgment and superstition!!!??? DSetliff@pol.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.110.161 (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Blatant Plagurism
If you're going to just copy/paste someone else's material, be smart enough to leave out things like "see figure 42" .... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.7.17.3 (talk) 15:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

To whom is this comment directed? "Fig. 42" was not part of my contribution. DSetliff@pol.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.145.48.42 (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

not real
this isn't real.

1. if you hold a mirror underneath someone's nose it makes two prints! 2. i can't breathe through one of my nostrils so if this was true i'd be unable to breathe half of the time 3. it's fake

Skwrking (talk) 02:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC) ===

Wrong, this is a real phenomena, although this explanation was new to me too. When it comes to hemispheres I doubt though, sounds somewhat dubious and simplified to me, also there should be a reference to allergic symptoms in the text, telling people to check that first if they have severe problems. Allergies are on the rise everywhere in the industrialized world. I know that as I go to bed I only can breath with one nostril at a time after a short while. And it's very annoying, at times impossible to relax as you keep on trying to breath with both. And laying on the right side it will be the left nostril breathing through and vice versa. And no, I do not think I have an allergy. I had it for over fifty years now :) 'Nezeril spray' helps though but water, salt or not, doesn't. It's an interesting theory, and worthy of a wiki, even though I would have liked more references to research. Especially if 85% suffer from it?

But leave it be.

Yoron. 178.30.28.143 (talk) 22:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Evidence in non-human animals?
Alternate nostril breathing is a fascinating topic. I can not find much scientific information on it. Is there any evidence that non-human animals (mice, rats, dogs, cats, monkeys, etc.) also do alternate nostril breathing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.50.60 (talk) 00:10, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * While I do not know about other animals, I know there are a number of studies in dogs available via a quick search with Google Scholar.
 * 216.232.157.160 (talk) 11:49, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

English please...
The Description section reads like it was lifted from a Rhinology 101 textbook. I hate to say this, but it does need to be dumbed down a bit. The technical jargon is good, but people who can thoroughly understand that technical jargon don't consult Wikipedia to learn this kind of stuff; instead they consult their Rhinology 101 textbook. For the rest of us, this needs to be rewritten with references to the Rhinology 101 textbooks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.215.4.134 (talk) 07:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I added a Template:Technical to the page. --2600:1008:B023:A678:6427:4F9C:C491:7DC5 (talk) 19:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)