Talk:Nashville International Airport/Archive 1

Edit warring
Can we tone down the edit warring going on here (Sox23 and 68.52.36.127)? Whoever is posting from: 68.52.36.127..."I live here" doesn't count as a legit source, as that's considered original research. See No_original_research for more information. I don't mean to sound like an admin, but the two of you continually reverting each other's edits is getting annoying. Talk the dispute out here instead of just going back and forth with edits.nf utvol (talk) 04:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Misdirected article!
I clicked on a Wikipedia link for KBNA FM, and it too me here! I think someone needs to fix this!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.238.197.115 (talk) 03:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Road name change
Changed Donelson Road to Pike. It is Donelson Pike not Road.

Ontario (CA)
There are other cities listed along with there state to avoid confusion. WHat's wrong with it in this case? I see no reason to delete the state here, especially as Sox23 has confirmed it's the correct airport. - BillCJ 06:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * There are no other commercially-served airports called "Ontario" and thus disambiguation is, IMO, unnecessary. Furthermore, as "CA" could mean either Canada or California, it's entirely useless as a term to disambiguate Ontario, California the city and Ontario, Canada the province. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports for discussion. FCYTravis 06:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Air Canada
I've stood in the airport and looked at the AC gate in Concourse A. The page for the airline on the airport website also still has it in Concourse A. The customs facility and Star Alliance partner UA is also in A. Every int'l flight EVER from BNA has left from A...American to LGW and Toronto, F9 to Cancun, Carribean Charters, and AC to Toronto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.52.36.127 (talk) 23:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The ticketing/concourse section of Nashville International Airport's website lists Air Canada in Concourse C:, but as you said, the Air Canada section lists the airline in Concourse A. Since Concourse A is the int'l terminal, let's list it there. Sox 23 01:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

DL
See...adding a reference and not going ballistic isn't so hard is it?? 45Factoid44 (talk) 23:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added the reference that the flight indeed begins on December 27th and not on the 20th. Cashier freak (talk) 00:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

AA ORD mainline service
Please do some research before restoring ORD to AA mainline. AA's schedules found no BNA-ORD mainline flights on their website (the flighte actually ended on November 2). Currently, all BNA-ORD flights are now operated by its regional affliate, American Eagle. Unless if anyone can find a AA mainline flight number then it shall remain removed from this page. Cashier freak (talk) 00:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Add PDF Timetable as source if this is so..it should have it... 45Factoid44 (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just looked through AA.com and found no mainline flights between BNA and ORD...Spikydan1 (talk) 00:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

DL BNA-SLC
Why is it showing that the Nashville-Salt Lake City flight will use MD-90 aircraft but when I went and look up flights on Delta.com for June 5, it only shows flights operated by SkyWest. Did Delta made a typo to the aircraft when they on their press release? Cashier freak (talk) 05:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think they made a typo....BUT....the same discrepancy shows up at least one other time and when Nashville-SLC existed before with Delta there was a VERY brief time of maybe a few weeks where it switched from a CRJ9 to an MD90 so it's hard to be sure. Right now though my two cents would be that the actual schedule data is probably the best way to go in terms of how we list it on here. It is confusing. Qzd800 (talk) 05:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So, are the flights definitely going to be operated by SkyWest? If not, we can wait and see if Dl has made any changes to the route. Cashier freak (talk) 05:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

BNA Map
So apparently the image BNA.png is cross-listed on Wikipedia as a chemical formula. I uploaded a map of the destinations entitled "BNA.png" on Commons, and it won't override the image on Wikipedia. Now, when I try to upload the same image as a different file name, it detects that the image has already been uploaded and won't let me go through with it. Anyone else had any luck with this? You can find the file here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BNA.png nf utvol (talk) 05:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've moved both the local file and Commons files to more descriptive filenames. The BNA airport file is now at File:Airports with non-stop service from Nashville KBNA.png. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The current map doesn't show Pacific Wings commuter service or upcoming Southwest service to South Carolina. Otherwise looks great, though. Nice addition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.52.42.38 (talk) 08:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Can someone update the map to reflect current destinations? It's missing several. 12.164.59.154 (talk) 02:59, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Map needs updating!!!98.193.189.81 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC).
 * Done. In the future, feel free to create and upload a destination map! nf utvol (talk) 20:29, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
I just posted a message on the page of Bennettdevlin98 to advise against posting up un-sourced edits to the site adding pretty extreme destinations from BNA (like Paris, etc.). I advised them to come talk about these changes first, and if they're true, post up some sources. Doubt that will happen, as these are the same kind of edits (almost exactly) that were being made by an IP user not long ago. Probably the same person. nf utvol (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Noticed he was at it again yesterday. Going to file for a block next time it happens.nf utvol (talk) 18:35, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

...and the vandalism continues. It looks like a cut, copy and paste from DFW's page. Could anyone who is familiar with BNA destinations clean up American Airline's destination section? In the meant time, I will clean up what I can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakbok (talk • contribs) 19:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Ahhhh sorry I thought YOU were the sockpuppet. My apologies nf utvol (talk) 20:51, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

The IP has struck again...adding CDG as a DL destination to start May 3, 2012 (as May laready have passed). Snoozlepet (talk) 20:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Proper citations and styles
Just a reminder to new editors (and editors new to this page) to please keep the style uniform throughout, and follow the established citation templates when inserting citations for edits. A note saying that an edit is sourced from a vague 1939 map does not make it valid. Preferably you should be able to quickly and easily find the citation through a quick web search, perusal of a library, map collection, etc.. Many documents are not subject to copyright, and can be scanned (or photographed) and uploaded to WikiSource, which can then be linked as a web citation for easy access and verification. Unsourced or unverifiable edits can and will be challenged and, if not properly sourced, removed. A lot of people have worked really hard to try to get this page up and running and hopefully listed with Good Article or Featured Article status one day, and every unsourced or improperly sourced addition, or every addition that does not follow the style of the page, is one step backwards.


 * Citation Templates
 * Citation Tools
 * WikiProject Aviation Sourcing Guide
 * WikiProject Aviation General Style Guide
 * Reliable Sources Guide
 * Verifiability Guide

Thanks for the edits and help, and please continue contributing! nf utvol (talk) 19:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Preferably you should be able to quickly and easily find the citation through a quick web search, perusal of a library, map collection, etc."


 * That would be preferable, all right. You think nothing should appear in the article unless its source is on the web? You think it's "unverifiable" if you can't personally verify it?


 * My impression is that isn't how Wikipedia is supposed to work-- paper sources are allowed, even if only one editor has them. If you know different, show where Wikipedia so defines "unverifiable".


 * The article has fewer errors than it had a couple weeks ago, and more info of course, all verifiable by paper sources. But probably the April 1957 OAG isn't going to be on the web anytime soon, and AA's 1986 timetables won't be either. Tim Zukas (talk) 18:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I never said that it had to be on the web, although that is preferable. Just that citations follow the rules for citations.  And more info does not a better article make.  Every bit of minutiae is not necessary nor even wanted in an article.  I believe the consensus on Wikipedia is a better written, better sourced article over one that does not follow a standardized style.  And it's not that you can't cite something that is mildly vague, but be prepared to provide additional sourcing if it's something that cannot be verified by other editors.  Primary sources like timetables (and arguably the OAG) are fine, but items like maps that may be rare or exceedingly hard to find may not be accepted if you cannot provide a secondary source, scans, etc.


 * And by the way, I already posted a link to the verifiability guide. This has been expounded on ad infinitum. nf utvol (talk) 16:35, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "maps that may be rare or exceedingly hard to find may not be accepted if you cannot provide a secondary source, scans, etc."


 * "I never said that it had to be on the web..."


 * So the scan doesn't have to be on the web? Where does it have to be?


 * "be prepared to provide additional sourcing"


 * What additional sourcing would satisfy you? For the 1941 airport directory, for instance, and for the airport diagrams on the C&GS approach charts.


 * "Every bit of minutiae is not necessary nor even wanted..."


 * Everyone agrees some minutiae should be left out, and if that's our top priority the best plan is to dump the "History" section entirely. Any historical fact (what runways the airport had in 1941, for instance, or what scheduled flights it had in 1957, for comparison with other airports that year) will bore some editors. Too bad we can't poll readers to see what info they're after; barring that, I hope editors will compare this History section as it is now with what it was months ago, and decide how much of it is minutiae of interest to no one. Tim Zukas (talk) 18:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * (Just took another look at the article and saw what a stellar collection of useless minutiae the "Recent history" section is. Editors, when I said this article was better now than it once was, I didn't mean that section.) Tim Zukas (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oddly enough I just noticed this after removing some stuff from the Recent History section... But look, instead of trying to do a point by point counterpoint, just read the article on Verifiability and Citations, and please follow it.  I'm not trying to actively challenge what you're saying, I'm just trying to get you to properly cite along accepted guidelines so that next time this article goes up for any kind of class improvement, it doesn't get shot down for the relatively stupid reason of citations being formatted improperly (trust me...it happens, much to my chagrin). We're all just trying to improve the article!


 * I definitely like the inclusion of the additional runway information and whatnot, I think it is a good marker that tracks the expansion of the airport and the article benefits from it being there. As for citations on it, if you have the approach charts, it should be okay to upload them to WikiSource or the Commons since they're government publications anyway.  Heck, for my own personal curiosity not relating to verifiability, I'd like to see them. nf utvol (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Replying via the prompt at WT:Airports, I'm not actually sure about the details of what's going on. My comment would be first that the information being discussed meets Notability requirements, I think we all agree. Second that as long Tim Zukas' information is plausible and sourced in some way or another by a reliable source, it is a perfectly good addition to the article. If conflicting information exists, then it may be worth discussing which of the sources is more reliable, but in absence of concrete challenges I would say that the additions are very useful to the article. It may also be useful to upload the maps etc. to the Wikimedia commons or whatever (I have no idea how any of that works), but as they say, Wikipedia is and always will be a "work in progress"! :-). Speed74 (talk) 07:26, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

GA Attempt Number 2
All of the problems listed in the first review have been resolved, so I'm putting this back up for GA review. Thanks for everyone's help! nf utvol (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Nashville International Airport
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Nashville International Airport's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "transtats.bts.gov": From Salt Lake City International Airport:  From Raleigh–Durham International Airport: http://www.transtats.bts.gov/airports.asp?pn=1&Airport=RDU&Airport_Name=Raleigh/Durham,%20NC:%20Raleigh%20Durham&carrier=FACTS From Charleston International Airport:  From Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport:  From Logan International Airport:  From Evansville Regional Airport:  From Athens Ben Epps Airport:  From Cleveland Hopkins International Airport: </li> <li>From McKellar–Sipes Regional Airport: </li> <li>From Orlando International Airport: </li> <li>From Northwest Alabama Regional Airport: </li> </ul>

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

UA Start Inaccuracy
I noticed on the page that it said United Airlines flights would start in July. But, I just booked a flight with United Airlines on an Airbus 319 in early June. Something's not right here. 98.193.225.39 (talk) 15:08, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I did find out through UAs Reservation System that the first UA flight from Nashville to Houston flies on June 5. 2600:1004:B164:E908:B598:38E2:FA79:244 (talk) 12:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OneJet, Boutique Air, Corporate Flight Management services
How are these charter flights? These flights are bookable to the public via the airline's website and these carriers operate out of the main terminal per the airport's website (they have dedicated ticket counters at these airports). 97.85.118.142 (talk) 05:49, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Technically they are neither, but are commuter flights. See the list of airlines on the bottom of every airline's page. In the past, some users have argued they should be in the passenger section while others think they belong in the charter section. I personally think they should be under passenger, but I think this needs to be opened up on WP:Airpots, for now though, LEAVE THEM AS PASSENGER UNTIL DISCUSSED FURTHER. Stinger20 (talk) 12:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

WN BNA-SEA
Can someone with an autoconfirmed account please remove the resumption date for this route, as seasonal routes do not need resumption dates, and the page is currently protected. 198.236.17.79 (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. HkCaGu (talk) 19:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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Charter Carriers Listed in Destinations
I just removed JSX and Red Way from the desinations. Both are charter carriers, Red Way operating limited charter flights from Lincoln, Nebraska to various vacation destinations, not regular service. JSX is a jet-share service that sells seats on private jets, also considered a charter service and not a regular carrier. If anyone has an objection to my removal of these, please let's discuss here before they're added back. Thanks! nf utvol (talk) 00:28, 13 May 2023 (UTC)