Talk:Nasir Khusraw

Merge
I have merged Naser Khosrow into this article by this edit, and added a cleanup-rewrite tag to the page, since I've basically dumped most of the content into here (under 'Alternative version'). Note also, in case there is some confusion regarding the edit history, that my Revision as of 16:12, 2 November 2006 was not a merge (as mentioned in the edit summary), but a merge suggestion. The actual merge was done by the next revision, on November 4. --Bluerain talk 17:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a Sunni
I don't personally want to go through a fix this article, since its structured quite strangely and would require major revision. But one very important fact that should not be missed is that, unlike it states in the second section in this article, there is fairly no evidence to suggest that Khusraw was ever a Sunni; he was born into a Shii family and explicitly espoused Ismaili Shiism in his later writings. It is very common for Sunni historians to try and appropriate figures like Khusraw (or at least partially appropriate them) so one should be very wary of what sources one is using. But even a cursory look at an encyclopedia of Islam (or even encyclopedia britanica for that matter) would let you know that Khusraw was, by all major evidence, a Shii. - Ajay Chaudhary (Department of Middle Eastern and Asian Languages and Cultures, Columbia University)


 * Yes, he was definitely not a Sunni. He was an Isma'ili.Ariana310 12:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

He was a convert to the Fatimid Shia faith though he does not use the term Ismaili. He refers to himself as a Fatemi (or Fatimi), this is stated in his poetry. Here he is adamant that he is a a Shia of the maternal line of descent from Fatima. I have no idea where the translation is to be found. The Ismailis must have it translated somewhere.

تو من ار چند به یک دین درم

تو زه ره من به رهی دیگری

لاجرم آن روز به پیش خدای

تو عمری باشی و من حیدری

فاطمیم فاطمیم فاطمی

تا تو بدری ز غم ای ظاهری

فاطمه را عایشه مارندر است

پس تو مرا شیعت مارندری

شیعت مارندری ای بدنشان

شاید اگر دشمن دختندری

من نبرم نام تو، نامم مبر

من بریم از تو، تو از من بری

گرچه مرا اصل خراسانی است

از پس پیری و مهی و سری

دوستی عترت و خانه‌ی رسول

کرد مرا یمگی و مازندری

مر عقلا را به خراسان منم

بر سفها حجت مستنصری

--Wool Bridge (talk) 15:41, 15 August 2009 (UTC) --Wool Bridge (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Ogress
An entity named Ogress has started this page, she describes herself as a lesbian and knows no Persian!

Why on earth she is interested in Nasir Khuraw and is jealously guarding this page is not known. Wa Allahu Alem! --Rolec Dubbing (talk) 20:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

She deleted my reference to Edward G. Browne's Royal Asiatic Society article, reprinted as a monograph, on Nasir Khusraw, entitled, Poet Traveller, Propagandist. London April 1905.

How this helps research into this subject is not known either. --Wool Bridge (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Whatever she enjoys in the bedroom is of no concern to the improvement of this article. If you have issues with her reverts please take it up with her on her talk page. -- Afghana [talk]  18:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it not a good thing that we have an article on Nasir Khusraw? I'm confused.  Ogress  smash!  23:09, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes a very good thing it is, however, I imagine people are interested in NK if they have read his work in Persian or if they have a religious or spiritual interest in his work. Otherwise they are just intellectual "squatters" who take up any topic and guard it on behalf of an interest group. --Rolec Dubbing (talk) 20:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bias
Dear Editors and fellow talk page viewers,

Excuse me for the formality, or informality, as it is my first time on a talk page. My concern is what appears to be a non-objective representation of some of Nasir Khusraw's contributions in some parts of the article. Though he was undoubtedly a great writer, poet, scholar, and philosopher, it is not in the interest of an encyclopedia to include flamboyent praise, even amongst the greatest of human beings, unless it is properly cited. That is to say, encyclopedic knowledge should be objective to reduce the level of bias, allowing people to make reasoned judgements based on facts. The credentials of this article would most assuredly benefit from a removal of puffery. I will therefore attempt to remove some of said "fluff" in order to augment the effectiveness of the article. Anyone may take the liberty to edit, whether to add onto or undo the changes that I will make henceforth.

Nmitha (talk) 02:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree with this. The article uses subjective phrases like "Excellent". Please only stick to facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.53.39.122 (talk) 20:12, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Nāṣer-e Khosraw's Book of Travels: (Safarnāma)  By Nāṣir-i H̱usraw
http://books.google.com/books?id=awQJvB6CSkcC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

His travels
I have started to map his travels here:


 * (Table of content)

..to the corresponding wiki-articles:


 * p. 12   Acre  -->Birwah -->Damun --> I'billin  (SWP05)-->Hadhirah (SWP06)  -->Kh Irbid +(HA 190, 7-) + SWPI:396-400 and Guérin, 1880, p. 198ff see Arbel --> Tabariyyah --Kusr  Bin el Malik SWPI:412 + Guérin, 1880, p. 201ff- --tomb of Abu Hurairah (but see also Mausoleum of Abu Huraira )  -->
 * p. 19: --> Kafr Kanna --> Acre  -->Haifa (SWP5) -->Kanisah SWPI: 314   -->Caesarea (SWP7) -->Kafr Saba -->Ramla (SWP13) SWP|I:252 -3, 260, 270, 274 (=Robinson)  (and 1033 earthquake-->  Latrun --Abu Ghosh  --> Jerusalem  -->Silwan   -->Artas,_Bethlehem -->Bethlehem  -->Hebron --> Jerusalem  -->Ashkelon


 * p 28: K- Bab al Nabi, T: Jami al Magharibah
 * p. 34 (al-masjid al-aqsā) …which today is known Solomon's Stables   Al-Aqsa_Mosque
 * p 41 Bab al Nabi

Cheers, Huldra (talk) 15:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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