Talk:Nastassja Kinski

Birth date
The birth year given here (1959) is the same as in imdb, but I doubt it. I also found it on the web as 1960, and 1961. I strongly remember when "Reifezeugnis" debuted on TV in 1977, Kinskis status as a minor was prominently mentioned (she was one of three well known (in Germany) second generation actors in the film). MSN Focus (in german) and www.djfl.de give 1960, www.film-und-literatur.de gives 1961, as does zelluloid.de.

So - is there an independent source for this birthday claim ?

Hmm - I just saw German Wikipedia also gives 1961, while noting the differing sources. So I changed the article accordingly.


 * 84.176.198.67's and Hotwine8's presumption is right: The IMDb laid a false trail concerning Nastassja Kinski's year of birth. The internet confusion about her correct date of birth is tremendous and amazing. I wrote an extensive contribution about this item in the German Wikipedia. In 1995 the German cineast Hans-Michael Bock published his substantial encyclopaedia of international film actors . He researched minutiously all informations. Bock specifies January 24, 1961 as date of birth of "la belle actrice allemande"  . The biggest German encyclopaedia Brockhaus shares his view for a long time. By the way: the IMDB's date of birth of her actor cousin Lara Naszinsky is also wrong. Nota bene: IMDb is not omniscient. --Bogart99 13:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I always knew date of birth was 1961 (cannot the remember the sources, but at least two), and when jumped here I was surprised to see 1959. I definitely vote for 1961.


 * Hi Attilios, from 1964 till 1969 Klaus Kinski was a neigbour of yours. He lived in a mansion at the Via Appia and in the middle of the 1960s his then wife Ruth Brigitte Tocki shared his Roman years together with him and the common daughter, little Nastassja Aglaia. Since the early 1980s her cousin Lara Naszinsky works in Rome quite often, under the pseudonym Lara Lamberti. --Bogart99 16:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Once again: January 24, 1961 is definitely correct. The Internationales Biographisches Archiv reports on december 3, 2005 (issue 48/2005) this date as Nastassja Kinski's date of birth. The International Biographical Archive is part of the Munzinger Archive which is the most reliable source for German journalists since 1913. Whoever invented 1959 in the IMDb, he or she created a vast confusion in the internet because a lot of frouzy people copied this date for their poorly researched pages. --Bogart99 15:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

You are all wrong -- I posted the 1959 year of birth at IMDb for Nastassja Kinski for the very simple reason that I know it is correct. I used to work for the U.S. Immigration & Naturalization Service and like most of its employees I did look up the odd celebrity or such here and there (more than most pbly) -- the year IS 1959!!! As far as IMDb not being omniscient this is absolutely true and I am worshipping no false idols here!! 216.194.4.43 09:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Robert! I didn't know you worked for the INS. - Ali-oops&#9997; 09:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * 1959 is definetely wrong and 1961 is correct. The anonymous IMDb-postman and former INS employee (?) falls for a deliberate lie. It's quite likey that Nastassja Kinski misstated her age when she came as underage girl to New York. Remember, she was a 16 years old teenager and she had a 44 years old lover, Mr. Polanski. Scandalous in the Puritan America (but ordinary in France). There's another point, Mr. INS postman: there is no registration law in US right now which is as strict as in Prussia for 300 years, not even since September 11. If you would invest 11,76 Euro (14 $) - as I did - you could profit from this strict Prussian registration law. The Berlin authorities have a copy of her birth certificate. The registry office doesn't give you this document of course but it tells you the date of birth (for a fee)! By the way, you could also address yourself to the Munich authorities, where she lived until she moved to NY. But I fear, this is wasted money. There are two German sources which are more reliable than informations by German actors themselves: The oldest and biggest German encyclopaedia (Brockhaus) and the oldest German press information service (Munzinger). As long as the Berlin or the Munich registry office doesn't communicate to you another version - which is quite impossible because it's not their custom to lie - 1961 is fixed. So don't damage Wikipedia again (we can't prevent you from damaging IMDb) --Bogart99 14:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Sir or Madam (Bogart99), I am not going to argue with you. When one applies for a visa one must provide accurate information or face penalties form the State Department. I know of no woman who would make herself older than she is (especially an actress!!), and I know that a birth certificate must be provided for a green card to be issued unless the person is some sort of third world asylee or refugee without access to the documents, and I assure you she did not enter the U.S. as a refugee or asylee.

It is really not worth the trouble to bother changing it back, but as far as I am concerned she was born in 1959. As far as "Puritan" USA, while I have my issues with that sort, I would rather be in America than in venal, treacherous France or World Wars starting, genocidal Germany or Nazi papist Bavaria/Austria. 216.194.4.2 07:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * This malicious tirade by 216.194.4.2/216.194.4.43 resp. his sockpuppets Stapletonian and Rms125a@hotmail.com disqualifies itself. He (Robert?) seems to be a quite notorious troll. --Bogart99 09:01, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I wonder whether the film companies she has worked for have colluded in the mis-information about her age? If she was born in 1961 that makes her 15 when she did the nude scene in the Hammer Horror film 'To the Devil a Daughter' (available uncut on DVD in the UK). If the 1961 date was established that might mean law suits all around for the company distributing the videos. It might therefore suit the industry money-men to collude in the 1959 date. Wasn't there a similar case about the famous American porn actress Tracy Lords who was later found to have lied about her age, resulting in zillions of tons of celluiloid having to be destroyed and lots of money going up in smoke cos she was under-age in her films? Colin4C 18:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think you're on the right track, Colin4C, although I wouldn't compare Nastassja Kinski with Traci Lords. In the late 70s a certain Lolita addiction came into vogue again (after the late 50s): Jodie Foster, Brooke Shields, Isabelle Adjani and Nastassja Kinski were casted for precocious roles. --Bogart99 10:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Traci Lords is a bad comparison, because she made pornographic movies. Nastassja Kinski did a nude scene. It's not the same thing at all, except in the perception of a few viewers. Commonly, a parental release is all that's necessary for a minor to do a nude scene. GuySperanza (talk) 23:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * In fact, she would have been 15 when To the Devil a Daughter was released, probably 14 when the nude scene was filmed. Of course, she began her relationship with Roman Polanski around the same time. The sexualization of underage girls was rampant in those years. 24.233.254.115 (talk) 15:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Birth date is 1961, as the reliable German magazine Der Spiegel anounced the birth of a daughter to the wellknown actor Klaus Kinski in its 12th edition of the year 1961 : "KLAUS KINSKI, 34, Freistil -Rezitator (SPIEGEL-Titel 9/1961), wurde - in zweiter Ehe (mit der Berlinerin Ruth Tocki, 20) - Vater eines Mädchens, das den Namen Anastasia erhielt. Aus erster Ehe hat er eine neunjährige Tochter." --91.13.17.102 (talk) 10:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Does Klaus mention anything about his daughter in his autobiography and in what year she was born??? Anybody here have his autobiography? Colin4C (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikify
Would be great if there are other sources to quote to back up claims that 'she was one of the great beauties of the 1980s and 1990s'. I adore her work but for Wiki purposes we have to be able to give confidence to neutral readers that we have facts to back up assertions, especially subjective and dramatic ones. Likewise 'had Hollywood at her feet, but her potential as an actress was often compromised by her defiant personality.' does not suit an encyclopaedia. The reference to Demi Moore is too trivial. The references to relationships which were not age-appropriate are prurient without further context. Otherwise this piece presents Kinski as some trite and possibly wounded personage from some time ago. She has a serious body of work and the page as it stands is almost salacious instead. thegirlinwhite 21:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks Vulturell. I am going to be bold and remove the reference to her alleged relationships with older men. thegirlinwhite 20:06, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Way to go.Vulturell 20:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

descent
>>is a German-born actress of Polish descent<< its wrong, her father was born in Pommern, but it belongs to germany at that time! so no Polish descent

I changed that line to simply German actress. Her father was half Polish but he spent his adult life in Germany and is generally identified as a German actor. She herself would only be a quarter Polish and never spent any of her life in Poland. She is of largely German descent and speaks German as her mother language. There is no justification for identifying her as a German-born actress of Polish descent.--Nikostar 01:18, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Not even her father Klaus Kinski was "half Polish". His parents were native German citizens at the beginning of the 20th century. When Klaus Kinski was born in 1926 his place of birth, the glamourous Baltic Sea spa Sopot/Zoppot, had been incororated into Danzig for 7 years. The Free City of Danzig had a very strange status concerning international law as a result of World War I. Since 1919 Danzig was a kind of ward of the League of Nations. It neither was German nor Polish. Nobody described this chaotic and creative climate better than Kinski's famous fellow citizen Günther Grass, inventing the erotomanic tin-drumming spiteful little devil Oskar Matzerath. When the 280-mm cannons of the ship of the line Schleswig-Holstein raked the Westerplatte in the early morning hours of September 1, 1939, the other erotomanic dwarf, evil little Klaus Kinski, painted the Reichshauptstadt Berlin red for almost 9 years, in contrast to Günther Grass who witnessed how 51 officials of the Polish Post Office in the middle of Danzig town - equipped with pistols and light weapons - staunchly defended themselves for 14 hours against German SA and SS men on the first day of World War II. The Free State of Danzig perished this very day. The one child had to write world literature afterwards and the other one had to become a world star as an actor. And both had to become very evil boys, all their lives. --Bogart99 15:34, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget it all belonged to Poland before the partitions of Poland in the XVIII century. Norum (talk) 14:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That does not matter at all for her descendance. In the whole Baltic area and some parts of Eastern Europe down until Siebenbürgen, Romania a lot of ethnic/cultural Germans used to live up until the end of World War II and the Nazi Germany. With the now-free sovereign states, in the time before the closure of the Iron Curtain these were relocated to areas behind the present day borders. Even tough there is still some local animosity about the subject about historical rightfulness - all this does not belong in the article, especially not about Nastassja Kinski's descent. She did not live in the XVIII century. -- 92.229.21.149 (talk) 16:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Where does she know Russian from? What was her mother's decent? Isn't her name based on the names of two leading female characters from Dostoyevsky's The Idiot? Debresser (talk) 21:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Image removal
WP:FU is really explicit. A fair use magazine cover can not be used to illustrate generally the article on the person shown on it. If you add back the cover in violation of policy I will need to note this on the copyright problem notice board. The editor formerly known as Harmonica Wolfowitz 00:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I would take your arguments more seriously if I didn't know that you are a sockpuppet of the notorious User:Ste4k, who was supposedly banned indefinately for trying to trash the wikipedia project. Colin4C 10:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Kinski Biography?
Just wondering whether there has ever been a published biography of Nastassja Kinski, or whether there is information on her to be gleaned from biographies of other people (Klaus Kinski, Polanski ect)? Otherwise all we have is magazine articles and interviews...and the dubious stuff which is forever recycled on the web...Colin4C 20:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Snake poster
Should be something on the famous snake poster -- that's how millions of U.S. college students in the 80's who were not foreign film buffs would have heard of her... AnonMoos 15:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It was there, but I've added a bit to the reference to highlight it. SteveHopson 16:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, unfortunately this article has been plagued by officious persons (at least one of whom was a sockpuppet of a banned editor) who take it upon themselves to remove pictures of Nastassja - including the snake one...Colin4C 23:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Snake poster again
It's faintly ridiculous that the article as it now stands includes nothing on the snake poster, which is by far her main claim to fame in the United States of America (among those who are not foreign film buffs). AnonMoos (talk) 11:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Yet again
Hate to keep harping on a single theme, but the current version of the article doesn't include anything on the infamous snake poster, which is by far her main claim to fame in the United States of America among those who do not happen to be foreign film buffs... AnonMoos (talk) 13:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

And again
I added a comment about it and it was removed. Again. What's going on here? How many references are needed? How many uploads of the image, reduced in size, blurry, etc. are required before it's existance is acknowleged and fact+fair use reigns? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.54.1 (talk) 16:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Filmography in wrong order?
Surely most pages list most recent films at top, and older further down? --leopheard 13:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * What's the sense of that???Colin4C 14:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The sense of that is so that things are created as a uniform standard, rather than being all over the place. Surely you could work that one out --leopheard 12:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * So doing things backwards is standard? What sort of Alice in Wonderland World do you live in??? Colin4C 14:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * BOOYEAH Natascha_McElhone - Ian_Abercrombie I'm sure there are loads of other examples --leopheard 13:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia goes from oldest to newest. By the way, thanks for finding those articles that needed to be tagged. --PhantomS 13:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * But that's SO uncool Phantom. I think we should all follow Leopard Head's example and get one of those clocks with hands that go backwards and then watch the anguished expression on our friends faces as they realize they are not in tune with the contemporary Zeitgeist...Colin4C 18:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of filmography, where is Maria's Lovers?[]
 * I have added information. -- Esp rus2 20:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Nastassja Kinski is the highest paid model in history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.90.158 (talk) 23:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Nissan 200SX
A few years ago, she drove a Nissan 200SX. I doubt a source will be found. Even if it is, it is hard to incorporate the information without looking silly or trivial. User F203 (talk) 16:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Cat People 'erotic'?
Why the description in the opening paragraph of Cat People as 'erotic'? A lot of movies have some sexual content. If a movie's to be described as 'erotic', shouldn't it be a movie in which the sexual content is the main focus? Is there a citation- other than marketing material- that characterizes this film as 'erotic'? Calling a film 'erotic' usually has connotations quite different from what Cat People is. GuySperanza (talk) 23:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

yes, I agree, saying she starred in 'erotic' movies sounds bizarre. Both the films mentioned are mainstream releases, not porn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.145.252.66 (talk) 09:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Erotic is not the same as porn. Debresser (talk) 22:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The Cat People (1982 film) article says its a horror film, and apparently was shown in regular theaters. Did reviews of the movie written at that time refer to it as erotic though?  The other film she is listed as staring in, which they call erotic is Stay As You Are, which article indicates that it was.   D r e a m Focus  03:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say Nastassja Kinski walking around completely nude in the middle of the night is a pretty erotic thing. Not to mention tying her naked to a bed. Debresser (talk) 22:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was director Paul Schrader who expressed the erotic aspect over the horror aspect saying that the film "contains more skin than blood". Debresser (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Did she not act in Aguirre, the Wrath of God?
OK, I feel stupid. I always thought that she played opposite her father Klaus Kinski in Aguirre, the Wrath of God [1972] as his character's daughter. I just edited this article to add that info, then checked up on it and reversed my edit, because IMDB and other sources say that role was played by someone named Cecilia Rivera. But is it possible that Cecilia Rivera was a pseudonym for Klaus's daughter, Nastassja, who would have been 10 years old during filming? She looks just like Nastassja Kinski as a child. Some websites do identify the actress as Nastassja Kinski. Very confusing. 24.233.254.29 (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Like this site. And I have to agree that said character looks a lot more like Nastassja Kinski in e.g. Cat People (when she was 21 years old), then like Cecilia Rivera. Debresser (talk) 23:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Birth Date II
User Debresser is right. She could have lied about her birth date on the Johannes B. Kerner Show in 2008. But Der Spiegel reported her birth in early 1961 (see reference). This is certainly the most reliable source we have on this. So the matter should be closed, regardless of legal consequences. Prekario (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Restoring film promo
Am restoring film promotional photo as a valuable improvement. It was removed under the pretext of being a "decoration," which was a purely personal impression by an editor. This is a BRD edit, and should require consensus with an acceptable rationale before repeated deletion. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 17:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No WP:COPYVIO and WP:FAIR (WP:NFC) is clear. Copyright images can only be used if there is adequate textual discussion directly related to the image. Merely placing the image next to the name of the film is not sufficient. Active Banana (talk) 17:27, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The use of the modeling photo File:Natasha kinski model.jpg is also questionable: the specific image used needs to be discussed in the text, cited to a third party source. As this is a correctable issue, I have not removed it as of now, but you may wish to quickly provide adequate context both in this article and at the image page to maintain it within the Wikipedia image file catalogue. Active Banana (talk) 17:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Can you clarify this issue? The first sentence in her "Career" section states that she began as a model. There was no source given. The photo is obviously of her modeling at a fairly young age. So when you say that the "specific image used needs to be discussed," how much more can be said? Doesn't the text with an image say it? It's doubtful there was ever a published article about this particular photo shoot or photo. However, as a career document, it does prove certain bio details it would seem. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I will direct you to Non-free content Active Banana (talk) 18:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Image file rationale was expanded to include more non-free content rules per suggestion. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:53, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

We're done here; see WP:NFC. Bzzt. I've removed it; do not restore it. Regards, Jack Merridew 02:54, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

As the image is now orphaned, it will be deleted, unless any editors can expand on the rationale section. Any comments there or consensus as to its value might help. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 20:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I would like to include it, but I was not able to find any free on-line third party sources talking about that ad campaign or her modeling in a way that would meet the FAIR rationale for use here. Active Banana (talk) 14:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In the David Letterman interview (see Videos), when discussing her career, she talks about her modeling career and a photo shoot for Vogue Magazine (?) when she was 16. Another video link, the slideshow, displays numerous obvious modeling photos, such as the Richard Avedon snake photo. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The NY Mag reference briefly mentions NK and her modeling but not in any way the sufficiently meets the FAIR for including the pefume model photo. I would be looking for something like "kinski became a household name in the 80's through a series of sensual black and white advertisements promoting products from Apples to Zylophones"{ref} Then we include the perfume ad as a visual example of what these sensual black and white ads looked like. Active Banana (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * A few more trinkets: In New York Magazine (1994) one of her modeling agents mentions her as a client, along with Anna Nicole Smith and Drew Barrymore.


 * Doubtful result. Even today, models' names are rarely mentioned with ads, unless they marry a celebrity. After they get into acting, it's simply mentioned as among their first jobs. So an early modeling photo seemed reasonable as a non-free "fair use." --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 20:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Supermodels have had items written about them and their ad campaigns for a very long time - having sourced some from the 1960's- and a kinski biography could hardly have been written without including something of the sort. But if we cannot find appropriate sourcing, we cannot use the image. "Proper sourcing doesnt exist" is not a legitimate FAIR claim! Active Banana (talk) 20:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Quincy Jones
I have removed some unsourced material about these two. Do we citations for when they were hooked up? TIA --Tom (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I didnt save them, but when I was looking for modeling sources, I know that I ran across sources that mentioned Quincy Jones in a news.google.com archives search. Active Banana (talk) 18:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Personal life sources
One of the sources just added, People (April, 1981), writes, "Indeed, at 20, Nastassia is being compared to the young Ingrid Bergman." That would mean she was born in 1961.

On another point, for whatever it's worth, in the David Letterman interview (see Videos), she states that she was 16 when she met Roman Polanski. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The 1959 birth date ref is only referenced by a blog run by a guy named Steve: "Steve's Pages: Birth and Death Dates, Quotes, Art, Photos, Travel, Writing" therefore I am deleting it as not a credible source. Colin4C (talk) 15:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you check whether the same year, 1959, isn't mentioned in other, more reliable sources? Debresser (talk) 20:54, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, there are a few smaller secondary sources that give 1959, however, they are very brief 1-2 paragraph bios. The leading reference book set, only carried in libraries (if they can afford them) is the International Dictionary of Films and Filmakers - vol. 3, Actors and Actresses, which gives Jan. 24, 1961, along with a fairly detailed bio. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Therefore I think we can class any supposed 1959 birthdate as a fringe theory, which, in that respect, doesn't meet wikipedia standards of verification. Colin4C (talk) 06:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I would disagree with calling that "fringe", but have no real problem with the actual removal. Debresser (talk) 09:30, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Agree. But because there are published discrepancies, it wouldn't hurt to mention that fact in a general way. A lot of those were apparently just based on typical requotes from other secondary sources, especially magazines. Even some movie experts have made mistakes. For instance, David Thomson, in his New Biographical Dictionary of Film, simply gives her birthdate as 1960. However, within his bio. he notes that she was on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine in May 1982, and the writer of that story began, "I ask myself what makes Nastassia Kinski, at twenty-one, the biggest sex symbol of 1982 . . . ". That would also imply she was born in 1961. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 16:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

One From the Heart details
Although it wasn't added, to keep the film's relevance shorter, Coppola brought Kinski to the U.S. to co-star in this film (per Phillips interviews, p. 136.) Hence, the film was important in her career. I felt some more details about what happened afterward, and why, would give the subject more perspective, along with her own impression of costs. Feel free to edit to avoid excessive irrelevance. There was actually a lot more stuff I kept out in order to give a brief summary of this particular film. I agree, however, that discussing one particular film, where the others were merely named, does look out of balance. But from other actor bios I've helped on, it's mostly because this bio is pretty brief to begin with. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 20:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Image consensus request
I believe that the image below would be permitted as a non-free image based on rule #5, as the film and this image is referred to:


 * Film and television screen shots: For critical commentary and discussion of the cinema and television.

If there is consensus, we might be able to restore it to the article. It's always useful to show a person during the prime of their career. The image is now orphaned and will be deleted.

left|200px


 * Keep --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 19:39, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if a consensus formed here on this page for keep, it cannot overide WP:FAIR. I suggest you rephrase your question as: "Does (insert whatever commentary you have from the article) meet the criteria WP:NFC sub sections 4/7/8 "For critical commentary" and allow us to display this copyright image Image:Large one from the heart.jpg?  Currently, seeing no critical commentary, my position is No we have not met the threshold .Active Banana (talk) 05:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Rephrased: "Does the article commenatary, describing her act as a "Felliniesque circus performer to represent the twinkling evanescence of Eros, meet the criteria WP:NFC sub sections 4/7/8 "For critical commentary" and allow us to display the copyright image Image:Large one from the heart.jpg?
 * Yes. The photo is necessary to help us understand the description. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 06:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * yes now that I am looking at the right picture. Active Banana (talk) 17:02, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Nastassja Kinski
Is it possible to make the following adjustment? > > Nastassja has a tiny cameo in this movie. The film cannot rest on > Nastassja's shoulders. She is in the move for 5 minutes!! > > PLEASE REMOVE: The film failed at the box office, and was a major loss > for Coppola's new studio, Zoetrope. "In the wake of the dismal showing at the box office, . . . after less than two years in operation, Zoetrope Studios was for sale." It became "one of the biggest box office failures in modern cinema history."[9][relevant? – discuss] For the film, Coppola had built one of the most expensive movie sets in the history of Hollywood: "His glittering, surreal re-creation of neon Las Vegas alone cost more than $6 million," notes movie historian Gene D. Phillips. > > Please let us know your thoughts and thank you!! > > Best, > > Oren

One From the Heart detailsAlthough it wasn't added, to keep the film's relevance shorter, Coppola brought Kinski to the U.S. to co-star in this film (per Phillips interviews, p. 136.) Hence, the film was important in her career. I felt some more details about what happened afterward, and why, would give the subject more perspective, along with her own impression of costs. Feel free to edit to avoid excessive irrelevance. There was actually a lot more stuff I kept out in order to give a brief summary of this particular film. I agree, however, that discussing one particular film, where the others were merely named, does look out of balance. But from other actor bios I've helped on, it's mostly because this bio is pretty brief to begin with. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 20:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.69.95 (talk)

Nastassja Kinski
Is it possible to remove the following statement from Nastassja Kinski's Wikipedia?

The film failed at the box office, and was a major loss for Coppola's new studio, Zoetrope.

It is unfair to inlcude this in Nastassja's page, as she has a tiny cameo in the film. If this was the standard rule for all of the actors involved in the film, I would understand; however, this is not listed in any of the leading actors wikipedia pages from this film.

Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.69.95 (talk) 18:16, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Språket
Språkføringen i den norske artikkelen omNastassja Kinski er svært dårlig, og bærer preg av en slurvete oversettelse. Er det virkelig en velutdannet nordmann som har skrevet den? Uansett, den bør omskrives til GODT norsk! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.9.110.143 (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

References for filmography
Since when do we need references for the filmography, like in all of these edits? Debresser (talk) 22:05, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't know. I've always thought that the work itself was its own reference.  After all, someone can just go watch the film and see that she's in it.  Dismas |(talk) 22:50, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Merge proposal
Support the February proposal to merge List of awards and nominations received by Nastassja Kinski to here; a split was unnecessary as the combined length of the pages is well within the usual bounds for readability. Klbrain (talk) 09:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 09:26, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Topps tavern mural
She is painted on the back of Topps tavern in Sanger CA 93657 my question is how and why 107.116.93.11 (talk) 09:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)