Talk:Nasuhi Ertegün

Nasuhi Ertegün
Nasuhi Ertegün is the correct name of the individual. His father is under Münir Ertegün and younger brother Ahmet Ertegün. He was a Turk with a Turkish name. American sources may have omitted the dots over the u and for some reason misspelled the first name. All serious Turkish sources use Nasuhi as his first name and Ertegün as last name. This is not a place (like İstanbul-Istanbul) or Turkish drink name (like "rakı" which understandably turns into "raki" in many sources in English). This title should not be a redirect, but the title of the concerned article. We cannot change people's names because "Americans use it this or that way." Regards.--Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 19:01, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is IMDb policy that the article should be titled by "the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources)". See WP:COMMONNAME. I also would tend to think that this person preferred to be called Nesuhi, not Nasuhi, because that is how he was identified on the covers of numerous albums released by Atlantic Records, a company where his brother was president. I would assume that Ahmet Ertegun would have known how to spell his own brother's first name. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * If it is correct (and reliably sourced) that his name at birth in Turkey was Nasuhi Ertegün, that information should be mentioned in the article. But, in the US, rightly or wrongly, like it or not, he used the name Nesuhi Ertegun - and as User:Metropolitan90 says, that is how the article (in WP - I don't know about IMDb!) should be titled and how he should be described in the article text.  Many people born in other countries have used different spellings of their name when they have moved, to the US or elsewhere; there is absolutely nothing unusual in that.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Some serious reliable sources for the name Nasuhi Ertegün may be found here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Why should I have a User Name? (talk • contribs) 15:32, 2 August 2014‎
 * But, as you know, this is the English Wikipedia. Those sources are in Turkish.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:38, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That should not be a problem, see WP:NOENG: "Citations to non-English sources are allowed." Google Translate is sometimes useful. Paradoctor (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * What better than Turkish sources for a Turk? --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 15:49, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * For the article title, only the English sources are relevant: "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." The other versions can be mentioned (properly sourced) and redirects established. Paradoctor (talk) 15:53, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Paradoctor - you may not know that this editor's concerns have been the subject of discussion at Talk:Nesuhi Ertegun. Best to centralise discussion there, in my view. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:00, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I understand King Philip VI of Spain for Felipe and also Príncipe Carlos for Charles, but we cannot change the Latin script original names of ordinary notable people. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 16:04, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Continued at Talk:Nesuhi Ertegun. Paradoctor (talk) 16:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)