Talk:Nataša Bekvalac

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Yay, a bit of hyper-correcting here. Šatrovački version of this singer name, has a very special and important cultural (sub-cultural?) significance. It should stay here in any case. This applies only to this singer. I would like to provide some reference for this but finding reference for thi urban subcultural things can be very hard.
 * All right, where is the significance and why need it simply apply to her and not anyone else? Evlekis 11:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

She was a poster child of new generation of turbo folk singers. One that desperately tried to distance it self from previous turbo folk stereotypes. None the less they were still proponents of empty minded ideology, cheap glamor and easy living, in a country that still suffered very much. This fact was quickly recognized by urban youth especially hip-hop minded. The Šatrovački version of her name got coined pretty quickly and was used to signify someone/something that pretends to be something that is in fact not. (Stane 18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC))
 * See? Thee are the things you don't know when you live away from the region; such as I, who lives in England. I'll take your word for it. But maybe you'd be better off rewriting this last paragraph onto her actual article, it seems relevant and it would extend it. Even then, that would be the place to write her name as being in the Shatrovachki, rather than the introduction; this way it appears a tiny bit messy and unserious. What do you think? Evlekis 19:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you are absolutely right about that unfortunately it is extremely hard to find refference about such stuff. I was unable to find solid data about the start of her career, also. It would be too unprofessional from me to wright things just from my own memory, although there is more to this than this short article would indicate. I'll gladly rearrange this article as soon as I get some relevant sources. Thanks for understanding. (Stane 22:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC))
 * Oh no problem, it's nice to see someone else interested in the article. I would personally go ahead and write without references, most of us do it all the time. Encyclopaedias are factual by nature, but Wikipedia wouldn'd be 20% of its present size if it weren't for good old fashioned analysis. If everything were down to fact, there would be no talk pages, no discussions for there would be no disputes! If and when someone corners you over not providing evidence, I'll take your side; if they persist, we'll give them an article on civil issues in Indonesia (in Persian) and tell them it is a Serbian article about Shatrovachki, as if the admin staff will know any different! (If they are from Serbia, they won't question your ideas because they'll know all about them)! :-) Go ahead! Evlekis 22:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, we need some references for this article. Claims like: "Her debut album has sold more than 2 million copies worldwide" (yeah right, 2 million was a lot in former Yugoslavia, in Serbia or SRJ it is impossible and "worldwide" is just ridiculous) need to be supported, and claims like: "She broke all the charts and became the princess of dance music" are screaming POV. This is wikipedia, not a billboard! I am deleting both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrki83 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Two million is unthinkable. The music of an artist is in real terms expected to be sold throughout the SFRY and Bulgaria as the big outsider. On top of this, you may in smaller numbers get sales in Romania and Greece but mostly from the Slavophonic population. The rest would be for diasporans of all regions. Even one million is unlikely. Our combined territory (South Slavic- exYU & BG) is just too small. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 09:57, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Birth place
The text and also the Serbian article say she was born in Novi Sad, but in the infobox it is Belgrade. --Csesznekgirl (talk) 04:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well spotted and many thanks. I have corrected it. I have this on watchlist but one tends not to look deeply into edits unless it looks like clear vandalism. I haven't checked who added the infobox and how it had since been edited but this was most probably an error. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 09:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)