Talk:Nathan Cleary

Lede and Social Distancing
I'm surprised that Cleary's corona virus shenanigans are included in the lede, and MaskedSinger's claims that "He will be remembered forever by this" (emphasis theirs) as laughable. It looks like WP:RECENTISM. Sure, the facts should be included in the article, but I can't imagine any encyclopedia having them in the lede. I know we don't get much traffic here, but would anyone care to lend an opinion, or do we need to go through the WP:3O process? Doctorhawkes (talk) 09:29, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Dear Doctorhawkes, the issue isn't that Cleary violated quarantine, it's that he lied about it. A lie that has potentially put the whole season in doubt. This puts him in a different class to Addo-Carr and Mitchell which is why I didn't contest your deletions there. Having said that, I take objection to you coming along and reverting my edits multiple times without the courtesy of a discussion here or without the courtesy of a note on my Talk page. Your opinion is valuable, but not more valuable than mine.
 * Keep punching like Laurie Nicholls would want you to MaskedSinger (talk) 16:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I think "potentially" is the key word here. The NRL don't seem to think so, hence a lesser fine. And I haven't seen any reputable source saying he lied, just that he omitted details. Doctorhawkes (talk) 23:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Dear Doctorhawkes, you're much smarter than this :) His original alibi was to deal with the pictures - they came over for a few minutes before getting an uber and while they were here they took a picture and I forgot about it. - how on earth does this make any sense knowing that he participated in a video with them?? MaskedSinger (talk) 04:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I was also asked for an opinion.It does not belong in the lede. 's reasoning is correct, so I do not need to explain in detail. . DGG ( talk ) 23:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC)