Talk:Nathan Winograd/Archive 1

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Sorry, I didn't know how to do the references below. Here are some links for more information on Nathan Winograd:

http://www.nathanwinograd.com/ http://www.nathanwinograd.com/nathanwinograd_002.htm http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/10/02/petscol.DTL http://indyanimalmedia.org/nathan-winograd-discusses-the-no-kill-movement-part-1

Ajkochanowicz (talk) 04:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked the links provided. I've added the main nathanwinograd.com website as an official website under the "External Links". The Christie Keith article is already listed there (about overpopulation). The other two links are now dead links. Canadianknowledgelover (talk) 00:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Updates
I've been adding some updates and more biographical details.

I noticed that one of the references currently cited is only available by purchasing the document for $25 from Animal People: ", and then worked as a prosecutor and in corporate law. He came to public attention when he turned the rural Tompkins County shelter in upstate New York into a No-Kill shelter. Winograd headed the shelter in Tomkins County between 2001 and 2003.  The euthanasia rate in Ithaca, New York was about half the United States average at the time of Winograd's hiring.  During his two years there, the national rate of shelter euthanasia fell from 15.7 to 14.8 animals killed per one thousand humans.   Winograd achieved a decline of 2.1. "

I also find the way the stats are cited in this paragraph to be confusing. I'm going to instead quote from information provided by Winograd on his biographical article on his website. It is more detailed.

The paragraph also says he worked in corporate law, but I could not find any reference to working in corporate law. I provided more detail about his early work experiences.

This statement is not quite accurate: "Winograd joined the San Francisco SPCA in 1994 and worked there until 2000." There was a period when he was working prosecuting crime and only worked part-time consulting for the SPCA.

The link is dead for this reference: "In 1994, the San Francisco SPCA, led by President Richard Avanzino (who later became the President of Maddie's Fund) along with the San Francisco Department of Animal Care and Control, guaranteed a home to every "adoptable" dog and cat who entered the shelter system. I think I will mention part of this along with Winograd's comment that they were leading the nation's efforts at the no kill movement.

This statement is difficult to assess: "At the time of Winograd's hiring, San Francisco had the lowest shelter euthanasia rate of any major city in the United States. The national rate of shelter killing dropped from 21.1 animals killed per one thousand humans to 16.8 (a decline of 4.3) during Winograd's time at the organization, 0.7 better than San Francisco. " The paragraph says that Winograd was at the SPCA from 1994 to 2000, but his role wasn't full-time through that period. It isn't quite clear what dates are referred to with the rates (and with the difficulty of finding the original document referenced). I'm going to take this out for now.

Canadianknowledgelover (talk) 00:49, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I found a reference to corporate law in Nathan Winograd's bio on Amazon (found here: http://www.amazon.com/Nathan-Winograd/e/B001JRXM3A0). Looking closely at his work, it looks like he is referring to the work he did in the legal department for the San Francisco SPCA. I'm going to leave it as it is written, talking about the places he worked rather than calling it corporate law.

I found some information about a recent significant honour by the city of Austin, so am adding it in a new Honours and Awards section, along with the awards he got for his first book. Canadianknowledgelover (talk) 19:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Does not seem notable
Most of the cites seem to be written by the subject of the article. This fellow does not seem notable. &#39;&#39;Paul, in Saudi&#39;&#39; (talk) 10:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Numerous NPOV Issues
The article is full of language that simply repeats NW's arguments as if they were objective facts. For example, "Overpopulation is a myth" instead of "Winograd argues that overpopulation is a myth." I'm not arguing for "balance," just for the realization that NW is saying things a lot of knowledgeable people would dispute. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 18:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)