Talk:National Asset Management Agency

Timeline of section on Criticism
"The criticisms are disputed by the Government. The Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment Mary Coughlan has defended the creation of the agency saying it was not a bailout for the banks, one of the charges made against it.[7]"

It appears strange that the Government's response to the criticisms which were made in July and August 2009 (Notes 10,11 and 12) is supported by a reference to a RTE article dated in April. Perhaps the the second sentence above should read "Speaking to the Daíl on the 9th April 2009, Tánaiste Mary Coughlan said that the National Assets Management Agency is not a bailout for the banks." Scartboy (talk) 23:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

It is about ensuring people can access credit
I didn't think the quote adds much, especially in an introduction; the Bill is very clear that this is its purpose, so I just changed it to It is proposed that NAMA ..., primarily with a view to improving the availability of credit markmc (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and bailing out the banks and developers ;-) Snappy (talk) 19:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly - the quote from the Minister makes it sound like a matter of opinion what NAMA is intended to achieve, whereas the bill sets out its intentions very clearly. Now, it's certainly a matter of great debate what the bill will achieve, but that debate can be covered in the criticisms section.
 * Basically, I think the quote in the starts the article off on a quite a non-neutral footing. See WP:AVOID markmc (talk) 19:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I have removed said quote. Snappy (talk) 23:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Snappy! markmc (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

ROI
Snappy, why do you insist on inserting "Irish economy" when you know NAMA is aimed at the ROI alone? Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 19:32, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your question. The name of this country is Ireland, therefore Irish economy. Snappy (talk) 19:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The name of the state might be Ireland, but as you know, the state is not Ireland. You're introducing an unnecessary ambiguity. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 20:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Snappy. I don't see the ambiguity. The article begins with references to the Government of Ireland, the Irish financial crisis and the Irish property bubble. Why is the reference to the Irish economy more ambiguous than those? markmc (talk) 21:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no ambiguity when talking about an "economy". "Economies" are usually spoken of in terms of state. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 23:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Lapsed Pacifist is right, it just clears things up a lot more. Yes people who come onto this page will generally know that 'Ireland' in this context is referring to the Republic, but for someone who knows nothing about NAMA or its aims, it minimises confusion and ambiguity to highlight that the article is about the Republic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123dylan456 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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