Talk:National Democratic Alliance/Archive 1

Structure
I updated this article on 11/19 to add some more general information. If anyone has more information on any formal structure in place for the alliance (Which I don't believe there is), please feel free to add.

Changed to high-importance, on the logic that, if the Bharatiya_Janata_Party page is listed as top importance, this page should at least be high importance. -Alataristarion 03:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Though I appreciate your logic, while assessing this article, I have kept politics-importance as high. For India Project, this article is of mid-importance overall. --GDibyendu (talk) 17:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Ideology
Are the parties in this alliance linked by any similar political views? What does it stand for? 79.146.140.241 (talk) 23:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Release 1043

जनता से धरती पर स्वर्ग लाने के लिये सहयोग की प्रार्थना

समस्या ये है कि धरती व भारत में हर इंसान आज इन मे से किसी ना किसी पीडा से पीडित है जिनमें अशिक्षा, दुख, दर्द, दहशत, लूट, क्रूरता, कैद, कुकर्म, दुर्घटना, हत्या, आत्म हत्या, बीमारी, नारकीय जीवन सैली, प्राकृतिक सम्पदा की हत्या, और धरती को मौत की और धकेलना सामिल है

इसका कारण है जनता का अज्ञान और भ्रमित होना

इसके लिये जिम्मेदार है सरकार और उसके सहायक

लोक तंत्र का आधार कहता है समान, सरल, असरदार नीति, नियंत्रण लागू होगा, जो नहीं हुआ यहां कानूनी सवाल यह आता है कि समान, सरल, असरदार, नीति और नियंत्रण, लागू क्यों नही हुआ ?

तो सरकार और उसके अधीन कोर्ट का जबाब इन तत्वों पर आधारित था, जिसमें ऐसे आधारों पर कार्यवाही करना था जिसे जांचना नामुमकिन हो, यथार्थ की जगह दहशत, धमकी, का आधार रख कर अन्याय करना था, खामोश रहना, आवेदन रद्द करना, अनसुनी करना, सौदागरी करना, दबाव बनाना, रिमांड करवाना, विलम्ब करके जीविका छीनना, याद्दास्त  मिटाना, कैद करना, हत्या करना सामिल था,

इन बातों के सबूत सरकारी कार्यालयों की फाइलों में मौजूद है

और गवाह के लिये सवा अरब पीडित जनता मौजूद है

इस समस्याओं का जड सहित समाधान है जनता को ज्ञान देना, और समान सरल असरदार नीति नियंत्रण लागू करना,

पर सरकार और उनके सहायक तो सरकार की मानेंगे

तो ऐसे मे धरती के लोग दो हिस्सों मे बँट जाते है

पहले वो है जो सरकार और उनके सहयोगी है, दूसरे वो है जो पीडित जनता है,

यहाँ ध्यान देने वाली बात यह है कि भारत में हर 60 हजार पीढित जनता पर सिर्फ 1 सरकारी आदमी जुल्म कर रहा है,

अब यहां एक और ध्यान देने की बात ये आती है कि सरकार को अपने और अपनी पलटन को पालने के लिये व ऐश करने के लिये पीढित जनता की खून पसीने की कमाई से 50 से 80 फीसदी लूटने की आदत पड गई है, अगर पीडित जनता ने अपने को लुट वा ना बन्द कर दिया तो सरकार को तो रेडी लगानी पड जायेगी जो सरकार किसी कीमत पर मंजूर नही करेगी, इस लिये सरकार हर हालत में पीढित जनता की इस कार्यवाही को फेल करने के लिये पैरों से चोटी तक पूरा जोर लगा देगी, और सरकार ताम साम दंड भेद आदि हर कुनीति का इस्तेमाल करते हुये छल बल लूट फ़ूट लोभ हत्या आरोप आदि गलत तत्वों का स्तेमाल करते हुये, जनता के मुख्य राह-नीतिज्ञ और सहायकों की हत्या करेगी, तब पीढित जनता आत्म रक्षा का प्रयास करेगी,

परिणाम इतिहास के सबसे विध्वंसक युद्ध की शुरूआत हो जायेगी,

पीडित जनता अपने को लुटवाना बन्द कर देगी

इसके साथ पीडित जनता सरकार और सरकार के सहयोगियों की रसद, हुक्का पानी, दवा, सेवा आदि बन्द कर देगी,

वही जिंदा रहेगा जो सही का साथ देगा,

क्योंकि पीढित जनता के साथ ईश्वरीय शक्ति होगी,

क्यों कि हर 60 हजार पर ये सिर्फ एक है इसी लिये जीत पीडित जनता की ही होगी

इस लिये अति सम्मान सहित, सर झुका कर, सरकार से प्रार्थना है

कि लोकतंत्र के सिद्धांतों पर आधारित (सर्व हित विश्व समान निश्चिंत कानून) को लागू करने में सहयोग करें

पीढित जनता से एक सवाल

आप सरकार का साथ देंगे या पीडित जनता का ?

यदि आप खामोश रहे तो सरकार के साथ समझे जायेंगे

पीडित जनता का साथ दें गे तो बदले में स्वर्ग मिलेगा, यानी जो मौज मस्ती व सुख चैन का सामान और सुविधा आज आप खरीदने में फेल है वो सब फ्री में समान रूप से मिलेगा जिसमें बाधा रहित बिजली, वातानुकूलित व्यवस्था,  स्वच्छ  हवा,  शुद्ध जल,  प्राक्रतिक हरा वातावरण,  सुलभ मल व्यवस्था, कूडा व्यवस्था,  स्वस्थ सम्पूर्ण भोजन,  उच्च स्तरीय चिकित्सा, निश्पक्ष न्याय,  जनता को जज की तरह स्वयं दण्डित करने का अधिकार,  प्राकृतिक आपदाओं से सुरक्षित घर,  मन भर मनोरंजन,  प्रत्येक को सम्भोग अधिकार, उच्च शिक्षा,  सुविधा जनक व वातानुकूलित यातायात,  विकाश और निश्चिंत काम की भागी दारी आदि सामिल होगा,

बस हां कहो स्वर्ग लो

धरती पर ईश्वर द्वारा स्थापित की गई सही की ताकत दिखाने के लिये

राक्षसों के ज़हन मे ईश्वर की शक्ति की दहशत बैठाने के लिये

हर रोड पर प्रलय कारी जन सैलाब तब तक तांडव करेगा जब तक जनता का लोकतंत्र लागू नही हो जाता

हमारी विश्व स्तरीय ताकत, हिम्मत, बुद्धि, सेवा व सुरक्षा भाव, ईमानदारी, समान भाव, मान्यता आदि देखने के लिये इन वेब पेजों को देखें

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हमारा काम सुधार है प्रचार नहीं,

जनता के प्यार की हथकडी, सुरक्षा, और गोपनीयता को ध्यान में रख कर हम अपनी सूचना सार्वजनिक नही कर रहे है,

धरती की सेवा और सुरक्षा के लिये

अपना पदभार प्राप्त करने के लिये

आगे आने वालों का

तन मन धन व अपने काम का सहयोग देने वालों का

हम नत मस्तक स्वागत करते हैं

ओन लाइन “धरती वासियों की जानकारी का तरीका “ लिखें

इस फार्म को भर कर shyawhdo@gmail.com पर मेल कर दें,

हम राजनीतिज्ञ नही राहनीतिज्ञ हैं

राक्षस तंत्र हटा के रहेंगे

धरती पे स्वर्ग ला के रहेंगे

जय धरती जय मानवता

विश्व सेवक व रक्षक

श्याव्ह्डो 10.07pm 22.4.2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.179.150.21 (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

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Help Me Edit
Can someone add information about the Election Defeats in Bihar and Delhi. Also some information on what transpired in various states such as J&K which produced a Hung Assembly and in Arunachal Pradesh.

Some Information on member parties would also help.

Can people also help me remove references to the word Sri/Shri from this article

Also can people assist me to change portions of this articles language from Past Tense to Present Tense

Please it is my humble request to all you nice contributors out there...

Thanking You,

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National Democratic Alliance (India) → National Democratic Alliance – The Indian National Democratic Alliance is clearly the primary topic. It receives thousands of page views every day, compared to the single digit or low double digit page views of the other topics. There has been a bump in page views over the past couple of months due to Indian elections, but the page view numbers were in thousands even before the elections began. It is extensively linked in Wikipedia, more than the rest of the others combined. Web search results mostly return pages about the Indian alliance, while pages about other alliances are few and far between. —Gazoth (talk) 23:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943  (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. I'm typically in favor of disambiguation of the names of parties to avoid systematic bias, but here the pageviews are so overwhelming that the Indian party is clearly primary. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose. You could say the same thing about many political parties around the world, yet we disambiguate almost all of them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * And yet there's also counterexamples of political parties already recognized as primary topics. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 05:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Support. Same reason as User:King of Hearts. 114.29.227.200 (talk) 16:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. Reason is same as Gazoth and King of Hearts --<b style="font-size:15px;"> Ashok  Ashoka Chakra.svg  Talk </b> 11:02, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:NATURALDIS.  CharlesViBritannia (talk) 04:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * How does WP:NATURALDIS apply here, in your view? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, the article title is fine as it is. there's more than one "National Democratic Alliance" political group in the world. leaving it as it is will differentiate it from the rest, renaming it to whats been proposed will simply creat confusion. as stated WP:NATURALDIS "to avoid confusion with another article of the same name" CharlesViBritannia (talk) 05:08, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Where in WP:NATURALDIS is that quotation, ? Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I genuinely don't see it.
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 * Support – An obvious application of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (to which articles about political parties are no exception), both with respect to usage and long-term significance. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 05:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination ~SS49~   {talk}  02:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support and this should be closed since the consensus is clear. Pratyush (talk) 10:09, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


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Merge Sections "Past members" and "Year by year changes" into "history" section.
Both the sections "Past members" and "Year by year changes" are closely related to History of the coalition. I suggest merging the mentioned sections into the History section. Manasbose (talk) 10:37, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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On the map- Tamilnadu should be in blue as it is in coalition with the INC. 2001:8F8:1A3F:16C6:C0D8:5F6F:FEF4:4B30 (talk) 05:16, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Improper attribution
as a citizen of India, I want to understand why BJP party or NDA is considered 'Conservative' or 'Right Wing'. Does the Wikipedia suggest that if the people of India start realizing their own cultural values and traditions then is it Conservative? If so then all Countries in the world are Conservative as they try to protect their traditions and culture. 124.123.188.192 (talk) 06:02, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2023
Please add number of states in government with composition bar in Information box. Also add the link to List of member parties in the Infobox. Refer the page Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance.

Current Source:- {{Infobox Indian political party
 * party_name       = National Democratic Alliance
 * native_name      = राष्ट्रीय जनतांत्रिक गठबंधन
 * abbreviation     = NDA
 * logo             =  National Democratic Alliance.svg
 * flag             =
 * founder          = Atal Bihari Vajpayee

Lal Krishna Advani

Pramod Mahajan (Bharatiya Janata Party) }}
 * colorcode        =
 * chairman         = Amit Shah (Union Cabinet Minister)
 * formerpm         = Atal Bihari Vajpayee (1998–2004)
 * loksabha_leader  = Narendra Modi (Prime Minister)
 * rajyasabha_leader = Piyush Goyal (Union Cabinet Minister)
 * national_convener =
 * foundation       = 1998
 * position         = Big tent
 * loksabha_seats   =
 * rajyasabha_seats =
 * state_seats_name = State Legislative Assemblies
 * state_seats      =
 * state2_seats_name = State Legislative Councils
 * state2_seats     = {{Composition bar|177|423|hex=
 * no_states        = }
 * alliance         = 38 parties
 * eci               = Registered   }}

Still, no. of state field and composition bar not visible in the page. Alliance field not visible.

Needs to be changed to:- {{Infobox Indian political party }}
 * party_name       = National Democratic Alliance
 * native_name      = राष्ट्रीय जनतांत्रिक गठबंधन
 * abbreviation     = NDA
 * logo             =  National Democratic Alliance.svg
 * flag             =
 * founder          = {{ubl|
 * Atal Bihari Vajpayee
 * Lal Krishna Advani
 * Pramod Mahajan {{small|(Bharatiya Janata Party)}}}}
 * colorcode        = {{party color|Bharatiya Janata Party}}
 * chairman         = Amit Shah {{small|(Union Cabinet Minister)}}
 * formerpm         = Atal Bihari Vajpayee (1998–2004)
 * loksabha_leader  = Narendra Modi (Prime Minister)
 * rajyasabha_leader = Piyush Goyal {{small|(Union Cabinet Minister)}}
 * national_convener =
 * foundation       = 1998
 * position         = Big tent{{efn|Member parties consist of Left-wing to far-right}}
 * alliance         = 38 parties
 * no_states        = {{Composition bar|16|31|hex=}}
 * loksabha_seats   = {{Composition bar|334|543|hex={{party color|National Democratic Alliance}}}}
 * rajyasabha_seats = {{Composition bar|108|245|hex={{party color|National Democratic Alliance}}}}
 * state_seats_name = State Legislative Assemblies
 * state_seats      = {{Composition bar|1695|4036|hex={{party color|National Democratic Alliance}}}}
 * state2_seats_name = State Legislative Councils
 * state2_seats     = {{Composition bar|177|423|hex={{party color|National Democratic Alliance}}
 * no_states        = {{Composition bar|16|31|hex={{party color|National Democratic Alliance}}}}
 * alliance         = 38 parties
 * eci               = Registered   }}

14.139.128.56 (talk) 05:18, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ The Herald (Benison) (talk) 19:08, 23 September 2023 (UTC)