Talk:National FFA Organization/Archive 1

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Name
It isn't the Future Farmers of America anymore... as such, the main article for the FFA should NOT be titled Future Farmers of America... rather, the "National FFA Organization"


 * Everyone still calls it Future Farmers of America, so that is the common title, I created a redirect from National FFA Organization to this page. dml 20:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * This is a good point. The page should be called National FFA Organization with a redirect from FFA and Future Farmers of America. Objections to this? Snafflekid 21:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I have effected the move. Snafflekid 22:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

So does FFA actualy stand for anything anymore? The artical never explained that. --Ceaser 14:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It explains so in the "About FFA" section. FFA stands for nothing anymore.  They changed from the acronym to just the letters several years ago because they thought the change would signify a broadening scope of the organization.  DECA did the same thing a few years back as well.  Metros232 14:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The FFA was originaly the Future Farmers of America but they changed it to the National FFA Orginization in 1988. So that means that they changed what it was called. The FFA letters i guess could technicaly mean nothing but it should still be takin as a National Orginization even though the letters ffa sstand for nothing. User:Dursely 2:47 June 5 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 17:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. F.F.A. Still stands for Future Farmers of America. its called the National FFA Organization because in fact it does spread across the nation. I believe that Purcell Oklahoma is the best FFA chapter in the nation.

I agree that F.F.A. stands for Future Farmers of America -- No matter how they changed the name. The FFA is for the youth and who are 'OUR ' Future Farmers of America. If we do not have anyone to take the place of our Farmers we would not have the food to be placed on our Tables. I am a past FFA member, a past Alumni State President and a life- time Alumni Member - so no matter how you cut it, slice it or change it- the name 'FFA' will always stand for be the 'Future Farmers of America' and never a no name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.140.86 (talk) 16:53, 24 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The official name is "National FFA Organization". The national charter still reads Future Farmers of America, as it would require an amendment through US Congress to change. Even so, it is not known as Future Farmers of America any longer, except through misconception. The acronym is no more. I teach Agricultural Science Education at a High School in Minnesota and am an FFA Advisor. According to the National FFA History: "In 1988, the delegates at the 61st National FFA Convention voted to change the organization’s official name from Future Farmers of America to the National FFA Organization. This change was made to recognize that FFA is not only for those interested in farming, but it is also for those with more diverse interests in the industry of agriculture, encompassing science, business and technology in addition to production farming".


 * FFA does still stand for Future Farmers of America, that is just not what the organization is referred too. I am a former chapter vice president and best friend of a state officer. I have had many discussions over this topic even with State officers and I continue to show even them what it stands for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jafredericks (talk • contribs) 17:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It is important to note the change and history of it, to inform those who might misunderstand. It isn't to say FFA and Agriculture are disconnected from Farming, but instead to better represent the growth of the industry, expansion of the curriculum into science, technology, engineering and math, as well as art and economics education and to be inclusive all of aspects of Food, Fiber and Natural Resources. Czsheehan (talk) 08:01, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Just a note that this page has recently been moved back to Future Farmers of America. For those not aware, the organization somewhat recently moved away from the name Future Farmers of America and now refer to themselves as the National FFA Organization. I personally think it's a bit odd and cumbersome, but I wanted to make sure others were aware of this in case someone else think of a page move. Kingofaces43 (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Degrees
Is there enough about each of the five degrees to justify having their own articles? I think that they each merit maybe a sentence or two in the main article, but not their own articles. The articles feel like guides on how to gain them, something that's easily obtainable through the national website. Metros232 21:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:FFA logo.jpg
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AG project?
I have proposed WikiProject Agriculture. Comments are needed (at that page please), or better yet sign up. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 03:41, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject FFA
Ive Proposed Wikiproject FFA which like Wikiproject Agriculture but specilizes in FFA and FFA related wikipedia stuff. :)--Iwilleditu (talk) 20:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

For former or present FFA Members
I Made A FFA User box --IwilledituHi :) 21:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Original research
Without any sources, this article can only be construed as original research. - ALLST✰R ▼ echo wuz here @ 13:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, no. Articles without sources are tagged with . This article does actually list a reference, so it could be tagged with  - as it is. If you have specific concerns regarding claims that you believe to be original research - please explain what they are, but don't expect other editors to waste time trying to figure out what those concerns are. Please read WP:DRIVEBY, specifically the section that says

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Officer list / past presidents
I have removed the lists of current national officers and of past national presidents. On Wikipedia, we have a long standing guideline to not add the current list of national officers to student organization pages per WP:NOT since we are not a directory. The list of past preisdents is little more than trivia. The same would apply to a list of past national conferences as well. only (talk) 10:59, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've always been borderline on this one since national officer positions can be fairly easily arguable as a position of notoriety in a high school/college organization. However, with new officers each year and arbitrarily including only presidents here previously, it can get into indiscriminate list territory too. As much as I tend to dislike list articles, this seems like a case where one could create that and link it to this article instead. Kingofaces43 (talk) 18:34, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this! A list of officers and past presidents is something for members to be able to easily research and lookup all in one page. ILoveParli (talk) 03:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a directory. OhNo itsJamie Talk 03:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah but for FFA members National Officers are a symbol and position of fame. It’s the same thing as a list of Presidents of the United States. ILoveParli (talk) 01:20, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Supervised agricultural experience
sourcing and scope better handled in current section National FFA Organization Widefox ; talk 18:20, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd just go with a redirect. That article doesn't have anything sourced, so anything additional here should just be fleshed out here independently based on sources. Kingofaces43 (talk) 21:57, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 21:45, 12 February 2020 (UTC)