Talk:National Fire Protection Association

Suggested article move
Is there any reason this page should not be renamed (moved) to "National Fire Protection Association" to match the name of nfpa.org? Google has many refs to "agency" but all of them I looked at are simply wrong (i.e., they also ref nfpa.org). There is no indication on nfpa.org that it has ever had a different name. Lupinelawyer 22:29, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Posted note on article. Waited over a week. No dissent, moved page, fixed referring pages. Did not search for un-wikified refs. Lupinelawyer 20:32, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

International? Really?
I dispute the fact that the NFPA is an international organisation. The only references I've ever seen to them are in relation to them being a USA only organisation. Furthermore in the UK the NFPA 704 'standard' is something I've never seen, whereas the United Nations Substance Identification codes sombined with the International ADR Kemler Code appear to be paneuropean.


 * You are right, only in the US Scott 15:17, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Not really. According to your logic, if I've never read anything in Swahili, and we don't speak Swahili here, then I can dispute that it exists anywhere else. NFPA has members in over 100 countries and offices in several countries, including France and Australia. In 2001, NFPA's V.P. of Governmental Affairs said, "Most NFPA standards are already de facto international standards." For example, 21 fire and safety codes adopted in China. Just because some countries may adopt other standards has nothing to do with NFPA being an "international" organ. 148.63.234.151 18:55, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, if you look at the history of the organization, you will see some of the original members were international. See http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files/PDF/HistoryNFPACodesStandards.pdf

"Despite the term "National" in NFPA sometimes seeming to imply the lack of international involvement, the first overseas members joined the Association in 1903. They were John Smith of the Sun Insurance office in London, and George Smith from an insurance office in Sydney, Australia. They were soon followed by Nicolas Sergowsky, an insurance engineer in St. Petersburg, Russia, as well as a growing list of others who were awakening to the virtues of the organization."


 * And I believe they changed their name a couple fo years ago to NFPA International. Check their web site.
 * Pzavon 03:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Lots of italics
While quite informative, this is more than a little bit overwhelming. It strikes me as unnecessary to put in ALL of the details of membership, unless for some reason these are not available at nfpa.org. It just makes this article a bit bulkier than it needs to be. A picture of the nfpa diamond would not be out of place, by the way.

Copyright violation
The article as it now stands is stood a few minutes ago was a clear (and long-standing!) cut'n'paste copyrigh tviolation from a nfpa.org document. Will try to revert to prior non-infringing form… DMacks (talk) 07:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think we're clean now. DMacks (talk) 07:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Veeck Case
The whole section regarding "standards accepted as law" should be moved to the "Model_building_code" article, and referenced by this and other related articles. 69.19.246.184 (talk) 07:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Founding member/s ?
So -- the organization was formed by a group of representatives, and yet only one person was a member? Was that a misprint, perhaps...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.44.0.4 (talk) 22:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

List bloat
The "See also" section has recently been crammed with a list of red-links to non-existent articles about every NFPA standards document ever published. Is this really necessary? Why should Wikipedia undertake to duplicate content that is freely available from the nfpa.org Web site? I suggest the entire section should be deleted, since it is unnecessary bloat and adds little to understanding the prime focus of the article, the National Fire Protection Association. &mdash; QuicksilverT @ 04:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Attempting to grant permission to use our copyrighted material in the page summary. Pending review by Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.162.66 (talk) 20:06, 17 February 2017‎ (UTC)
 * As you can clearly read in the process there (as as someone who deals with formal code statements should understand), "pending" is not "accepted". And even if it were accepted, that does not make the content acceptable editorially, merely allowed by policy. You have a conflict of interest, so it's understandable that you seem to be eager to post your own company's version of material about itself and likewise that you are having difficulty seeing why we likely would not accept it. DMacks (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Permission has now been received for the content at www.nfpa.org/about-nfpa (archived version) – please see above. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:33, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
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"The association's codes and standards include:"
So what should dictate the standards listed here? There's a standard for almost everything. ironmatic1 4:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

NSPA codes and standards include much more than what is listed here, e.g. NFPA 54 - National Fuel Gas Code. Fred4570 (talk) 21:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Sparky's Brain Busters
The mobile trivia game "Sparky's Brain Busters" should be included here 2603:7081:1C46:4000:2512:91AB:F4D5:3428 (talk) 01:16, 16 April 2023 (UTC)