Talk:National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933

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I don't see it addressed here (unless I missed it...), but I've seen criticism of FDR's approach. The argument goes, by encouraging unions as a means to protect buying power, NIRA actually inhibited the ability of the market to stabilize the economy. True? Or did improved buying power have the desired effect? TREKphiler  any time you're ready, Uhura  05:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've not read anything that says that FDR intended to include unions in NIRA. Section 7(a) was added to the bill so that stronger pro-union bills (such as those pushed by Hugo Black and Robert F. Wagner) could be forestalled. That isn't really addressed in the article, but maybe it should be. I have read things that say FDR intended to protect buying power by promoting shorter work weeks and penalizing overtime; this would keep more people working at least some hours, and encourage employers to hire more people (rather than use longer working hours, longer work weeks, or OT to complete tasks with the existing workforce). There seems to be little evidence that unions were influential on NRA code bodies in general. They were very influential in a few cases, minimally influential in most, and in important cases (autos, steel, agriculture) had no influence. If NIRA's goal was to encourage hiring (even part-time employment), there's no evidence it worked -- since employment did not recover until 1936, and then the economy crashed again after FDR's budget-balancing in 1937. I don't know if the average employed person's wages rose in industries with a strong-union NIRA code; I've never seen a study about that. Some labor economics analyses say unions encourage higher wages through tightening entry into the workforce (thus driving up wages), but I've never seen anything that shows that industries with strong union growth post-NIRA (autos, rubber, mining, etc.) showed wage growth.  It'd be great if you could find something.  (I never found anything, but I have limited access to economics journals.) - Tim1965 (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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It is a little confusing Hello...i dont understand this site very well and it is making my brain have an ache

Well, go to the help, and if you have further questions, you can ask questions at my talk at Cameron Nedland 21:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Since I have no idea how to make a new subject deal... I was just wondereing what went wrong here

The NIRA was strongly supported by leading businessmen, some of whom had helped draft the legislation. Gerard Swope, head of General Electric, was one of whats pas first champions of this legislation—which legalized cartels and encouraged government spending on public works.

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Academic peer-reviewed criticism of this article
From Rosenzweig's article: "the essay on the United States from 1918 to 1945 inaccurately describes the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933 as in part a response to the “dissident challenges” of Huey Long and Father Charles Coughlin—a curious characterization of a law enacted when Coughlin was still an enthusiastic backer of Roosevelt and Long was an official (if increasingly critical) ally [...] the essay’s incomplete, almost capricious, coverage than by the minor errors". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

What about the NIRA?
I was originally searching for info about Roosevelt's NIRA (National Industrial Recovery Act), and it redirected me straight to the NRA page. They definitely are not the same thing...I don't know if the page simply does not exist, but there's no indication that an article about it was not found, only that this one was found.

If I could just get some clarification on this, I would be very grateful! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirbymatt3 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks like you mis-typed. NIRA has re-directed to this article since 2005. Jheiv (talk) 21:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Unpopular
I deleted a few passages that refer to the NIRA as a failure, and regulations as unpopular. Given that FDR easily won re-election I would not say that it was all that unpopular. Additionally, there is no consensus among historians that the NIRA was a failure, so I deleted this part. If someone wants to start a new section that includes different interpretations of the NIRA’s success, that is fine. Claiming that historians generally agree that the NIRA was a failure though is un-cited and unwarranted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cleveland84 (talk • contribs) 05:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Bias rhetoric
Problems in the introduction:


 * the Schlesinger text has no page citations
 * the NIRA being considered a policy failure is a practically unsustainable, and rather pointless policy judgment
 * the Act did not promote cartels and monopolies - this is silly. It was not the object - rather it was consumer and worker protection, and a scheme of fair price fixing.

Deleted those passages accordingly, but I expect the bias goes throughout.  Wik idea  13:42, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * we don't erase material we disagree with, per POV rules. It's unclear what sources Wikidea is relying upon for his judgments. Rjensen (talk) 13:45, 10 April 2013 (UTC)