Talk:National Instant Criminal Background Check System

When
When was this passed and when was it implimented. Nitpyck (talk) 22:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Persons subject to prohibition section
The Persons subject to prohibition section seems to have been practically copied and pasted from the "Index Brochure" cited as the source, which is not encyclopedic content. FWIW: I am going to work on that. Lightbreather (talk) 17:36, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't see a problem with it. It is a very short list of the criteria the NICS system uses, so it's directly relevant to the subject of the article. Anastrophe (talk) 04:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Please cite the specific section of 'unencyclopedic content' that you believe this violates. thanks. 04:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


 * As I wrote above, this (now OLD) version was copied and pasted from (the fourth and final paragraphs of) this source:  However, I have worked on it, as I said I would, and no longer have a problem with it. If you feel it needs tweaking, feel free. Lightbreather (talk) 16:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

UBC
This section has nothing to do with NICS and might be a better fit in the Gun Show Loophole piece.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 01:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I agree. However, the "summary" of that section in the lead has nothing to do with the actual content, and is severely WP:POV.  I've drastically trimmed it.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This whole section should be moved to the gun show loophole article. It is not part of NICS, and is not on-topic for inclusion in this article.   Any objections to moving this section to the GSL article?  Miguel Escopeta (talk) 22:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I disagree. The proposal for universal background checks is about applying NICS to all gun sales, not just at gun shows and not just by FFLs. It is related to the gun show loophole, but it's not solely about it. Lightbreather (talk) 23:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey, Miguel - you wrote that the gun show loophole doesn't exist. Why would you want to add more material to an article on a non-existent topic? Felsic (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Notice of discussion at WP:NPOVN
Re this edit - - There is a discussion at WP:NPOVN about this: Undue weight to mention failed bills about the subject of the article Lightbreather (talk) 23:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * You oughta add the problem of editors cherry-picking quotations from primary sources, like this: Felsic (talk) 16:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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Is "NCIS" a typo here?
Quoting from the "How it works" section (emphasis mine): "Otherwise, the FBI's NCIS Section must contact the appropriate judicial and/or law enforcement agencies for more information." "Authorized local, state, tribal, and federal agencies can update NCIS Index data..." The section uses the expected abbreviation "NICS" elsewhere.

"NCIS" is ordinarily an abbreviation for Naval Criminal Investigative Service, which is not mentioned anywhere in this article nor in our articles on Federal Bureau of Investigation or National Crime Information Center.

The relevant disambiguation page mentions the National Crime Information Center only in "See also," without clarification on the meaning of the "S" in the abbreviation.

Are these typos? If not, the abbreviation's correct expansion (whatever that may be) should be added to the article with an appropriate explanation. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 22:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SoledadKabocha (talk) 01:59, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Clarification needed in Paragraph 2
Paragraph 2 currently reads:

After a prospective buyer completes the appropriate form, the holder of a Federal Firearms License (FFL) initiates the background check by phone or computer. Most checks are determined within minutes, but the FBI has up to three business days to make a determination. After that, the transfer may legally proceed anyway.

Clarification is needed in the last sentence as it currently reads too vague. "After that, ... " To what is this referring? After the background check is initiated or after the determination by the FBI?

"... may legally proceed anyway." To what is "anyway" referring? The holder of the FFL or seller may legally proceed to sell the firearm even if the determination has not been made yet? or only after a determination is made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Consumer.kjg (talk • contribs) 02:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I've updated it so it's more clear.Terrorist96 (talk) 03:51, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Denial
Got Restoration of Rights 1 year ago in Va. and purchased a 1911 with no problem. Went to buy a 12 gauge and was denied in West Virginia. Need to appeal? Roy Lee Blankenbaker (talk) 18:36, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello. This page is for discussing the Wikipedia article about the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.  It's not for discussing the NICS itself.  But I'm sure there are internet forums where you could get some good advice on that question.  Good luck.  — Mudwater (Talk) 00:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)