Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Clackamas County, Oregon

Source for Bates houses
Nomination form for those houses. Aboutmovies (talk) 11:03, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the useful tip. You may be aware of this, Aboutmovies, but for anyone else:  Actually that document is a NRHP "Multiple Property" submission document, a study about the registration requirements and not the nomination form for the houses.  I believe there should be a separate NRHP nomination document for each one, which will provide more individual description of each one.  The Multiple Property document is a study that assesses the importance of multiple candidate properties and usually comes to some recommendations on likely eligibility of each one, sometimes giving conditional recommendations (like that a property should be eligible if detailed research on it verifies something crucial).  But it is not binding and the final NRHP listing of each one is a separate decision based on separate nominations.  I've certainly seen cases where one property is deemed not good enough in an MPS document, but then the property gets NRHP-listed later anyhow.  I don't know whether or not all 4 properties covered in that MPS actually became NRHP-listed later.  As you may know, there are a lot of MPS docs for OR and elsewhere listed out at wp:MPS.


 * Since these 4 properties covered are quite related by being examples of the one architect's work for the one client couple, it would possibly be best to cover all 4 in one Wikipedia article with a section on each one. Or they can be separate articles. The MPs document certainly is useful to include in each NRHP article.  Here's a reference in footnote-style that can be used:


 * Reference:


 * That's one way to format a reference to the MPS document, anyhow. doncram (talk) 17:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Changes by Nyttend of 2010-09-09
Some of the changes made by Nyttend in her/his edit of 2010-09-09 have been discussed here and here, and I have implemented the results of those discussions in this Clackamas County article. With reference to this article, I have only one additional point of disagreement beyond those two other discussions:

Addition of sorting to the "Location" column In the past, I have always avoided making a table column sortable if sorting on that column would not result in a meaningful row order for the reader. In this case, the row order obtained by sorting on that column would for the most part sort the listings by their street/road number, intermixing properties on a wide array of thoroughfares all over the county. They would not be grouped in any useful way: not by town, or street, or "sector" (whatever that might be), or anything else. Sorting on the "location" column would in effect simply randomize the order of the listings. Far better to not even suggest to the reader that something might be gained by clicking the sort button.

Since this seems to be a relatively small point of disagreement, I will go ahead and remove the sorting from that column without waiting for any discussion in response to what I'm writing here. I don't want to short-circuit any discussion anyone wants to have, and I'm open to discussing the matter if anyone does want to discuss it. I'm just guessing no one will want to. &mdash; Ipoellet (talk) 20:07, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Waverley Country Club Clubhouse
Although this is a real place, there is no reference in its article to its listing on the register and a query of the Elkman database does not produce a listing under that name. Curious. Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:02, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Please refer to the Weekly List dated 4/5/13. &mdash; Ipoellet (talk) 05:10, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The SHPO's database is also a good, up-to-date resource. I don't know how recently Elkman has refreshed his db, but if he relies on NPS sources it will have significant errors. &mdash; Ipoellet (talk) 05:16, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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