Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Massachusetts

why cat
The included categories are required for this article to be a single entry point to the multple lists involved here. Hmains (talk) 04:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

counting the NRHP listings
The list-article now contains a table indexing all the separate county and town list-articles of Massachusetts NRHP listings. It currently shows a 4,055 total count. Some of the town/county list-articles are not themselves numbered lists, so it is not easy to verify what is their count of NRHPs. Their counts and the total state-wide count are not practically maintainable, I believe, in their current form. I think each of the non-numbered list-articles should be revised by use of Elkman county table-generator to include numbered list-tables (with other features such as coordinates), so that it could be readily verified by anyone how many listings are in the given list-article. Comments? doncram (talk) 01:27, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I found the numbers quite easily for the Middlesex County town lists — copy the list into Notepad, put a # in front of each listing, copy into your sandbox, and look at the number at the bottom of the list. I'm sure it wouldn't be any different with any other counties' town listings.  That being said, I heartily agree that we need to get them into Elkman tables.  Nyttend (talk) 04:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Reorganizing
I'd like to reorganize the list-articles to include coordinates and otherwise. I note that this state is the exception in having differently formatted list-tables, often broken up into subtables by town. They could be replaced those by bigger, sortable list-tables using the Elkman generator, including NRIS coordinates supporting Google maps. I tend to prefer bigger tables, myself. Would anyone object, or have comments, about my doing that for the Norfolk County ones, to start? I'll start a draft at National Register of Historic Places listings in Norfolk County, Massachusetts/Temp. doncram (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, i just noticed Dtbohrer had previously converted National Register of Historic Places listings in Brookline, Massachusetts, and Nyttend just now converted National Register of Historic Places listings in Milton, Massachusetts. Perhaps either of you would be more easily able to do the rest of the county, too? doncram (talk) 17:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I might help, but we'll see. I don't have any other tables for you... ...however, I do have something better. A while ago, when I was still splitting out Pennsylvania, I asked Elkman about an easier way making tables for cities (other than for independent cities). He tweaked his county table generator and made a version specifically for cities and towns. Enjoy! --​​ ​​D.B. talk • contribs 17:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It would help it the tables were better organized, numbered, and more consistent...however, I'm not the most savvy at efficient table creation. But let me know if I can help in other ways with the MA project.Swampyank (talk) 18:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * One thing which could be done is to visit all of the list-articles and add them to Wikiproject NRHP, with class=list, and also add to WikiProject Massachusetts with importance=mid. doncram (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Southbridge also done. Nyttend (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Great. I'd appreciate further help here, too, if you don't mind working on MA instead of other states, as I am in contact with someone who may be adding corrected coordinates info to a bunch of MA articles.  It would be great to have all the list-articles showing Elkman tables sooner rather than later.
 * Relatedly, another thing available to do, is to add to each list-article's top stuff, the following standard statement with qualifying footnote, about the Google map info:

The locations of National Register properties and districts (at least for all showing latitude and longitude coordinates below) may be seen in a Google map by clicking on "Map of all coordinates".
 * I just added that to List of RHPs in Nantucket, for a starter. doncram (talk) 05:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

creating stubs for all MA NRHP articles
Reversing my previous views on this, I would now support creating stub articles for all of the MA NRHP articles. I had previously objected to some aspects of the implementation, if not to the whole idea of it, when Swampyank pursued a program to create stubs for them all previously. Far from all were created. One thing I objected to back then, was that Talk pages were not being created and they were not being added to the appropriate wikiprojects or having reqphoto put into them. I learned how to use AWB and went back over all the already-created ones, to add Talk page stuff to them (although I could not, using AWB, know or label which ones needed photos or not). If the rest could be created now, with appropriate Talk pages, I think it would be helpful.

There are some drawbacks, noted previously, to having stubs that no one watches or maintains created. But per some discussion at wp:NRHP, we might set up a watch system so that would be less of a problem here. Also, I concede that there is some value to having at least one state, MA, completely stubbified, at least as an experiment to see if it attracts locals' interest. What's also changed now, for me, is that there is some interest in fixing coordinates information or otherwise adding material, to MA NRHP articles, and it would help to have them all in place. Swampyank, would you be willing to proceed again? And other comments would be welcomed. doncram (talk) 00:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll try to do some more stubbing when I have more free time in a couple weeks. Swampyank (talk) 03:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

NRHP actions posted 4/25/2008 through 2/13/2009
MASSACHUSETTS, PLYMOUTH COUNTY, War Memorial Park, River St., West Bridgewater,  08000445, LISTED, 5/21/08

MASSACHUSETTS, BERKSHIRE COUNTY, Clinton African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church, 9 Elm Ct., Great Barrington,  08000464, LISTED, 5/29/08

MASSACHUSETTS, WORCESTER COUNTY, Mount Vernon Cemetery, Church St., West Boylston,  08000465, LISTED, 5/29/08

MASSACHUSETTS, BARNSTABLE COUNTY, Sea Call Farm, 82 Tonset Rd, Orleans,  08000530, LISTED, 6/12/08

MASSACHUSETTS, HAMPDEN COUNTY, Westfield Center Commercial Historic District, 91-115, 100-174 Elm St., Westfield,  08000506, LISTED, 6/10/08

MASSACHUSETTS, MIDDLESEX COUNTY, St. George Antiochian Orthodox Church, 61 Bowers St., Lowell,  08000507, LISTED, 6/10/08

MASSACHUSETTS, BRISTOL COUNTY, Union Baptist Church, 109 Court St., New Bedford,  08000532, LISTED, 6/16/08

MASSACHUSETTS, ESSEX COUNTY, Macy-Colby House, 257 Main St., Amesbury,  08000531, LISTED, 6/16/08

MASSACHUSETTS, PLYMOUTH COUNTY, WITCH (catboat), 35 Lydia Island Rd., Wareham,  08000533, LISTED, 6/18/08

MASSACHUSETTS, BERKSHIRE COUNTY, Springside Park, 874 North St, Pittsfield,  08000553, LISTED, 6/27/08

MASSACHUSETTS, SUFFOLK COUNTY, Old Harbor Reservation Parkways, Metropolitan Park System of Greater Boston, William J. Day Blvd., Columbia Rd. between Farragut Rd and Kosciuszko Cir., Old Colony Ave. between Pacuska Ave., Boston,  08000693, LISTED, 7/24/08

MASSACHUSETTS, BRISTOL COUNTY, Wamsutta Mills, Acushnet Ave., Logan, Wamsutta and N. Front St., New Bedford,  08000794, LISTED, 8/19/08

MASSACHUSETTS, SUFFOLK COUNTY, Joshua Bates School, 731 Harrison Ave., Boston,  08000793, LISTED, 8/22/08

MASSACHUSETTS, SUFFOLK COUNTY, Ohabei Shalom Cemetery, 147 Wordsworth St., Boston,  08000795, LISTED, 8/19/08

MASSACHUSETTS, BERKSHIRE COUNTY, Mahaiwe Block, 6-14 Castle St. and 314-322 Main St., Great Barrington,  08000898, LISTED, 9/12/08

MASSACHUSETTS, HAMPDEN COUNTY, North High Street Historic District (Boundary Increase II), 580 Dwight St., 230, 234 and 236 Maple St., Holyoke,  08000897, LISTED, 9/12/08

MASSACHUSETTS, ESSEX COUNTY, Joseph Fenno House--Woman's Friend Society, 12-14 Hawthorne Blvd., Salem,  08000906, LISTED, 9/17/08

MASSACHUSETTS, HAMPSHIRE COUNTY, West Chesterfield Historic District, 1-70 Ireland St. and unnumbered lots, 620-669 Main Rd., section of Cummington Rd., Chesterfield,  08000950, LISTED, 9/25/08

MASSACHUSETTS, PLYMOUTH COUNTY, Alden, John and Priscilla, Family Sites, 105 Alden St., Duxbury,  78000476, NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATED, 10/06/08

MASSACHUSETTS, HAMPDEN COUNTY, Prospect Hill School, 33 Montgomery St., Westfield,  08001069, LISTED, 11/19/08

MASSACHUSETTS, MIDDLESEX COUNTY, Dennison Manufacturing Co. Paper Box Factory, 175 Maple St., Marlborough,  08001070, LISTED, 11/19/08

MASSACHUSETTS, DUKES COUNTY, Tashmoo Springs Pumping Station, 325 W. Spring St., Tisbury,  08001126, LISTED, 12/03/08

MASSACHUSETTS, FRANKLIN COUNTY, Leverett Center Historic District, Amherst, Montague, Depot, and Shutesbury Rds., Leverett,  08001127, LISTED, 12/05/08

MASSACHUSETTS, NORFOLK COUNTY, Wollaston Congregational Church, 47-57 Lincoln Ave., Quincy,  08001128, LISTED, 12/05/08

MASSACHUSETTS, HAMPDEN COUNTY, Sanford Whip Factory, 330 Elm St., Westfield, 08001176, LISTED, 12/10/08

MASSACHUSETTS, HAMPSHIRE COUNTY, Chesterfield Center Historic District, Main Rd., S. St., N. St., Bagg Rd., Bryant St., Chesterfield,  08001177, LISTED, 12/11/08

MASSACHUSETTS, MIDDLESEX COUNTY, Myrtle Baptist Church Neighborhood Historic District, Roughly Curve St. and Prospect St., Newton,  08001178, LISTED, 12/11/08

MASSACHUSETTS, NORFOLK COUNTY, Medway Village Historic District, Bounded by former New York and Boston railroad right of way, Oakland St., and Charles River, Medway,  08001191, LISTED, 12/17/08

MASSACHUSETTS, SUFFOLK COUNTY, Compton Building, 159, 161-175 Devonshire St., 18-20 Arch St., Boston,  08001284, LISTED, 12/31/08

MASSACHUSETTS, ESSEX COUNTY, JOFFRE, (shipwreck), Address Restricted, Massachusetts,  08000887, LISTED, 1/16/09

--sanfranman59 (talk) 05:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Center layout
Does anyone know if there is a way to center the table on this page? It would look much better if that were possible.--Marcbela (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume so, but I don't work with coding and layout much, so I don't know for sure. Rhode Island has its list centered, but that's because the right-side photos are forced left by the state map; if we moved down the Massachusetts state map for this purpose, we'd have no white space between pictures and table.  Nyttend (talk) 14:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Different states have different amounts of centering, but most of them are about the same; Alaska, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming all appear to have identical centering. They're all better than Massachusetts, however, but I don't know why.  Nyttend (talk) 14:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

ambiguous links
I applied Dabsolver's tool to find and easily fix ambiguous links in 4 or 5 of the larger MA NRHP list-articles just now (Barnstable, Boston, Worcester, a couple others). The task is to see what turns up, highlighted in red, in applications of the tool like this one to Berkshire county, which currently shows one ambiguous link, for Summer Street Historic District. If u use Firefox browser, all u have to do is pulldown the menu to pick the MA rather than the VT place of that name from the dab, and preview or view changes, and then save. If u use MSIE, you have to do a big copy-paste of the prepared new text. I'm leaving the Berkshire one not done, and leaving the rest not done. There may be some ambiguous placenames, too, which are easier for editors familiar with the locales to fix. Enjoy! --doncram (talk) 16:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

# without photos
What does this refer to? If it's WP articles its a selfref and the column should be removed (or copied to back-office space). Rich Farmbrough, 17:11, 22 March 2013 (UTC).


 * I realize I'm replying to a three-month-old comment, but I was going to ask the same thing. I don't see what benefit it has to the reader, and WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Progress tracks this for editors. If nobody objects I'll remove it. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 23:39, 4 July 2013 (UTC)