Talk:National Youth Choir of Scotland

Category question
Why is National Youth Choir of Scotland in the Catagory of liberal democracies? I mean how is that catagory appearing at the bottom of the NYCofScotland page? I couldn't find anything in the source script for the page.  Amit @  Talk  16:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok I found the reason, thanks anyway  Amit @  Talk  16:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Chris Bell?
Why does the page of bodybuilder and filmaker Christopher Bell gets redirected here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.38.210.221 (talk) 14:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

NYCoS
It's the same organisation. Same website. I know, I sing for them! DeMoN 2009  20:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Merge Proposal
It has been proposed since April 2015 that National Boys Choir be merged into National Youth Choir of Scotland (the proposer didn't tag this page or set up a discussion). It looks like National Boys Choir doesn't have much info (and no references), so I would support the merge. Thoughts? Ajpolino (talk) 02:27, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Went ahead and merged as uncontroversial. Ajpolino (talk) 16:10, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 4 September 2018

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move after extended time for discussion. bd2412 T 00:42, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

National Youth Choir of Scotland → NYCOS – This page is about the organisation which has changed its name from 'National Youth Choir of Scotland' to 'NYCOS'. The original choir is still known as 'National Youth Choir of Scotland'. NYCoScotland (talk) 13:31, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Pure marketing. The full name should stand for our article. Far more recognisable, commonly used and intuitive. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughts Necrothesp. I am curious about how this can be regarded as marketing rather than just reflecting reality? The article refers to the organisation which is no longer called 'National Youth Choir of Scotland'. I would disagree with the assertion that 'National Youth Choir of Scotland' is far more recognisable and commonly used. 'NYCoS' (with a small o) was adopted as a pronounceable acronym by the first choir members in 1996, all 19 other choirs formed by the organisation since 1997 have been prefixed with 'NYCoS'. The organisation started using the domain name nycos.co.uk in 1999. The media consistently refer to the organisation/choir as 'NYCoS', in this Herald article from 1998 'NYCoS' is used twice while 'National Youth Choir of Scotland' is not used at all. In short, there is a long history of NYCoS being commonly used and it is widely recognised. I would agree that 'National Youth Choir of Scotland' is more intuitive/intelligible to the uninitiated, however as that choir is still called 'National Youth Choir of Scotland' I would presume it would redirect to 'NYCOS' until such times as it warrants an article of its own.

Full disclosure, I work for the charity and much of the reasoning behind formally adopting the name 'NYCOS' was to disambiguate between the choir and the organisation. Peter at NYCOS (talk) 16:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Peter at NYCOS
 * Oppose Per WP:PRECISE and WP:COMMONNAME. NYCOS is too broad - it could be referring to the New York Chinese Opera Society (NYCOS). AusLondonder (talk) 02:13, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * FWIW, New York Chinese Opera Society doesn't exists. We don't avoid using a particular name because of anticipation for articles that currently don't exist. –Ammarpad (talk)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.