Talk:Natsume Sōseki

Early discussion
Is it legal to digitalize the image of a bill? -- Taku 23:59 May 1, 2003 (UTC)

For U.S. Law, here's some information from the US secret service. http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml I guess I don't understand how they define 'illustration'. On this website, they claim that an illustration of american money is permissible IF it's scaled too small or too large by some amount, and if all digitized or non-digitzed media for making the 'illustration' is destroyed after. Anyway, this is just U.S. law for U.S. money, and has little relevance to a Japanese bill on the internet. I guess there must be some sort of international law dealing with this, eh? -- Wilgamesh 20:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Is it appropriate to have a wiki link for London Tower (name of a novel, bottom of Soseki article) linking to the wiki article about the real London Tower?? seems kind of misleading. -- Wilgamesh 20:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't Mr. Natsume be referred to by his last name? I believe the people who call him Soseki are confused about his naming order. WhisperToMe 20:39, 9 July 2005 (UTC)


 * No. Most Japanese authors are referred to by their family name, but Natsume Soseki is usually referred to as "Soseki", both in English-speaking and Japanese-speaking circles.


 * The general pattern for articles on people who used pen-names (Dr. Seuss, George Orwell, etc.) seems to be to use their given name in the article until they adopt their pen name. I've edited the article to reflect this convention. CES 14:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Cause of Death?
Is there any information available on Natsume Soseki's death? He was only 49, seems a bit young, even for the early 20th century. The Japanese page mentions a "stomach ulcer." --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 21:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He began writing one novel a year until his death from a stomach ulcer in 1916. There is a little more detail on the Japanese page, but the basics of his death are already in this article. Feel free to expand, of course. CES 00:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of 1000-yen note
While it's nice to have Natsume Soseki's picture from the 1000-yen note on this page, I don't think it qualifies as fair use. The image is shown with a "public domain" tag, but I think that's in error (see my comment on the image's discussion page) and the tag on states that for copyrighted currency, "their use on Wikipedia is contended to be fair use when they are used for the purposes of commentary or criticism relating to the image of the currency itself. Any other usage of them, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement." The use of the picture here is informative, but it's not fair use under the policy's current interpretation, so I'm removing the photo from this page. Dekimasu 07:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

the return in japan
I correct the date of the return in japan according to the japanese wikipedia page about the author (that says 帰国後の1903年). I'm not sure of the accuracy of this information, but I found it on many internet sources, and I suppose also that the japanese are well informed about their major author. If someone discovers that I'm wrong please restore the previous version -Gianfrancesco Pomponazzi- from italian Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.13.184.50 (talk) 11:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

UNESCO Collection of Representative Works
According to my research at the website for this organization, Soseki is the beneficiary of more translations of his works than any other author. I think this would make a nice addition to this article. Its interesting to note that the translation of works from japanese to english was the most common mode for this organization.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

UK/GB?
In this edit, HIDECCHI001 changed the targeted article piped behind "Great Britain" from United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (the state which existed from 1801 to 1921, which period includes Sōseki's visit) to United Kingdom (short for United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which came into being in 1921, years after Sōseki' death). This seems incorrect, but rather than simply reverting, I propose unpiping the link, so that it goes directly to the article on Great Britain, which is in fact where he visited. Are there any other viewpoints before I edit? --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 13:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:Japan Assessment
The article has been assessed Start class for two reasons: it lacks sufficient citations and it is deficient in coverage. The Lead section states: "In Japan, he is often considered the greatest writer in modern Japanese history. He has had a profound effect on almost all important Japanese writers since." These two points, although probably true, are not referenced and not addressed in the text. If true, then a short "Legacy" section is justified, mentioning his prominence, influence, and honors or cultural references, such as his appearance on cash notes. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Which name is used
The article is inconsistent in name usage; sometimes it calls him Natsume, other times Soseki.

1/2/15: This is fixed now. Soseki, the author's family name, is now used throughout the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RickN555 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

The family name is natsume, not soseki. In japanese his name is 夏目 漱石 (as given in the article and as can be verified at the japanese amazon web page for kokoro: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%93%E3%81%93%E3%82%8D-%E9%9B%86%E8%8B%B1%E7%A4%BE%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB-%E5%A4%8F%E7%9B%AE-%E6%BC%B1%E7%9F%B3/dp/4087520099/). In japanese the family name is always given first, the given name second and 夏目 is pronounced natsume (to verify go to http://www.edrdg.org/cgi-bin/wwwjdic/wwwjdic?1C, paste that kanji in the Keyword box, select "Japanese Names (ENAMDICT)" and click Search) Jijitsuhito (talk) 06:34, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Natsume Sōseki. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140428051434/http://ajw.asahi.com/article/cool_japan/style/AJ201404200016 to http://ajw.asahi.com/article/cool_japan/style/AJ201404200016
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150619112314/http://www.japanese3ds.com/post/121759368809 to http://www.japanese3ds.com/post/121759368809

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 08:18, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Article should be moved to 'Sōseki Natsume'
Why is this article placing the surname first? This is not normally done for Japanese or Hungarian people on Wikipedia and is unnecessarily confusing. Korn (talk) 11:12, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Naming
OK, I'm fine with us keeping his name in the original Japanese organization (even if it's inconsistent with our other articles), but shouldn't this article refer to him as Natsume? Saturdayopen (talk) 06:56, 25 November 2021 (UTC)